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  • Seaweed
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    • 01-19-12
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    #1
    Chiefs VS Raiders. Are You Betting or Passing?
    I still am not sure
  • Brutus84
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    • 09-08-11
    • 5188

    #2
    MOBILE
    11/18/2014
    04:23 AM
    [Ticket #: 191515360] 2 Team Teaser 6, 6½, 7 pts Football & 5½, 6,6½ pts Basketball
    11/20/2014 @ 05:25 PM NFL [109] KANSAS CITY -1-115 (B+6)
    11/23/2014 @ 10:00 AM NFL [256] NEW ENGLAND -0.5 -115 (B+6)
    420.00 350.00
    ONLINE
    11/19/2014
    12:31 PM
    [Ticket #: 191644815] STRAIGHT BET
    11/20/2014 @ 05:25 PM NFL [109] KANSAS CITY -330
    990.00 300.00
    MOBILE
    11/19/2014
    08:43 PM
    [Ticket #: 191702308] STRAIGHT BET
    11/20/2014 @ 05:25 PM NFL [109] KANSAS CITY -330
    495.00 150.00
    MOBILE
    11/19/2014
    10:11 PM
    [Ticket #: 191704682] STRAIGHT BET
    11/20/2014 @ 05:25 PM NFL [109] KANSAS CITY -330
    495.00 150.00
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    • 44 Mag
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      • 10-14-13
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      #3
      So Brutus, 1980.00 to make 600.00 KC. Good Luck man.
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      • boomer62
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        • 09-10-11
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        #4
        My thoughts exactly....lol
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        • sandos139
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          • 01-27-14
          • 569

          #5
          Pass...bol
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          • Brutus84
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            • 09-08-11
            • 5188

            #6
            Up over 10k. Its called spot betting. Kc is easy money. I don't lay -330 barely ever. This should be -450
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            • SmittyZ28
              SBR MVP
              • 09-04-12
              • 1469

              #7
              Oak near the bottom in rush defense, giving up almost 130 Yds/G and KC 4th in the league gaining over 140 on the ground per game. Reid is statistically one of the best November/December coaches in the league and KC protects the ball as well as anyone so I do not see turnovers playing a big role here. I am not sure why people are questioning a bet on KC vs Oakland. KC is a playoff team, top 4 in the AFC, against an awful Raiders team on short rest coming off two tough division games. Maybe I can see taking the 7.5, I grabbed it @ 6.5 so buying the hook to 7 is prob the best bet left. Chiefs 8-2 ATS, Oak 1-3 ATS as a home dog

              BOL
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              • 44 Mag
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                • 10-14-13
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                #8
                To Smitty: KC on the road averages 21.6 PPG. Oak. @ home averages 17.25 PPG. KC has the +4.35 differential. So accordinly if you want to go by stats alone, right now Oak is getting 9.5 @ 5 Dimes. So logic would dictate: 6 point tease Oakland + 15.5 over 36.5. But we both know there is nothing logical about pro sports especially the NFL. All of my post is info only. BOL in your wager. If that line gets any higher in Oaklands favor I might try a SMALL tease, MAYBE.
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                • SmittyZ28
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-04-12
                  • 1469

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 44 Mag
                  To Smitty: KC on the road averages 21.6 PPG. Oak. @ home averages 17.25 PPG. KC has the +4.35 differential. So accordinly if you want to go by stats alone, right now Oak is getting 9.5 @ 5 Dimes. So logic would dictate: 6 point tease Oakland + 15.5 over 36.5. But we both know there is nothing logical about pro sports especially the NFL. All of my post is info only. BOL in your wager. If that line gets any higher in Oaklands favor I might try a SMALL tease, MAYBE.
                  Lol, MAYBE. 9.5 is a good number, my local still has 7 but if you can get past the 14 I would't disagree with a tease there for the spread, but leaves questions around the total. KC is ranked second in points allowed, 17.1 PPG but of course that takes into account some strong offense they have bettered this year. Let's say the Oak offense is similar to the following teams.

                  Jets- KC gave up only 10
                  Bills- Only 13 in Buffalo
                  Rams- Only 7
                  Dolphs- 15

                  Against second tier offenses KC has been lights out. I think Oak easily falls into the second tier and prob in a league all themselves. You make a ton of sense and a good argument, the wild card here is Oak is facing a KC team that gives up fewer points than any opponent they have faced, Miami is closest giving up 18 PPG and Oak only scored 14 at home against them. The question I ask myself is is it more likely KC wins a close one (tease under 3) or Oak gets blown out by more than 13-14 if you tease Oak up. I think the total could go either way here as Charles is going to gash this team. If they limit the runs to 5-10 yards and don;t give up the huge plays, we will probably see some 7-8 minute scoring drives for KC which would lend to a low total. Oak averaging 63 Yds/G on the ground which is not going to improve against this KC run D which means it is up to Carr to win this game, Oak is last in every offensive category, except for passing Yds/game which I believe they are like 29th or so. They have only been competitive in two games, but two good ones against SD, who they always play tough and Seattle after they laid down halfway through the 3Q and let them back in. Oak is not even competitive to KC in every phase of the game, coaching, RBs, WR, TE, Defense.

                  Fun game to cap and fun discussion.


                  My Plays on this;
                  KC-6.5
                  1st Half U21.5

                  Good luck Brotha
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                  • BigWangDangALang
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-20-13
                    • 731

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 44 Mag
                    To Smitty: KC on the road averages 21.6 PPG. Oak. @ home averages 17.25 PPG. KC has the +4.35 differential. So accordinly if you want to go by stats alone, right now Oak is getting 9.5 @ 5 Dimes. So logic would dictate: 6 point tease Oakland + 15.5 over 36.5. But we both know there is nothing logical about pro sports especially the NFL. All of my post is info only. BOL in your wager. If that line gets any higher in Oaklands favor I might try a SMALL tease, MAYBE.
                    Your stats disregard defense. So if you want to play that game, Oakland gives up 31.5 @ home while Chiefs give up 18.8 on the road.

                    So final score if we were going by numbers (which I believe isn't the real way to bet on these games)

                    Chiefs 26.6
                    Raiders 18
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                    • birdman24
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                      • 10-13-09
                      • 2135

                      #11
                      Everyone teasing KC and taking them ML are clueless!! Can't wait for you guys to lose your money trying to pull off a guaranteed win. Any given day anyone can win!!! It's as simple as Alex smith or Charles getting hurt and then what?
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                      • BigWangDangALang
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-20-13
                        • 731

                        #12
                        Originally posted by birdman24
                        Everyone teasing KC and taking them ML are clueless!! Can't wait for you guys to lose your money trying to pull off a guaranteed win. Any given day anyone can win!!! It's as simple as Alex smith or Charles getting hurt and then what?
                        Chase Daniels and Kniles Davis could win this game. But I'm with you, -300 in an divisional game on the road will get you burned long run. Especially this kind of rivalry.
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                        • lukey016
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                          • 02-04-14
                          • 223

                          #13
                          I think Chiefs win by a TD but I'm passing this as theirs better value in other games.
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                          • DrunkHorseplayer
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                            • 05-15-10
                            • 7719

                            #14
                            Don't over-think; anything can happen because it's the NFL but the Chiefs are far superior to the Raiders on any field and under any circumstance. KC -7 is the play.
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                            • a4u2fear
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                              • 01-29-10
                              • 8147

                              #15
                              Oakland, anything over 7
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                              • 44 Mag
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                                • 10-14-13
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by BigWangDangALang
                                Your stats disregard defense. So if you want to play that game, Oakland gives up 31.5 @ home while Chiefs give up 18.8 on the road.

                                So final score if we were going by numbers (which I believe isn't the real way to bet on these games)

                                Chiefs 26.6
                                Raiders 18
                                You missed the part where I said info only, and the other guy was referring to offensive production. But either way I am not arguing, but if we went by your numbers 26.6 vs 18, my tease would still be good. Oakland would wind up 33.5 to 26.6 and they would certainly cover the 36.5 total. It doesn't really matter, you would have to be a really looking for action to bet this game. I think I'll save my money for the Patriot's . BOL to you.
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                                • Snowball
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Brutus84
                                  Up over 10k. Its called spot betting. Kc is easy money. I don't lay -330 barely ever. This should be -450
                                  I can think of better spots than a divisional rivalry on the road for -330.
                                  Oakland is probably going to win at some point. NFL is probably the least
                                  safe of all leagues for favorites.
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                                  • BigWangDangALang
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-20-13
                                    • 731

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 44 Mag
                                    You missed the part where I said info only, and the other guy was referring to offensive production. But either way I am not arguing, but if we went by your numbers 26.6 vs 18, my tease would still be good. Oakland would wind up 33.5 to 26.6 and they would certainly cover the 36.5 total. It doesn't really matter, you would have to be a really looking for action to bet this game. I think I'll save my money for the Patriot's . BOL to you.
                                    Didn't realize you were making a counter argument like that. BOL to you as well.
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                                    • warbux
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                                      • 11-17-13
                                      • 896

                                      #19
                                      chances of oakland going 0-16? They got a tough schedule still. Rams or SF likely to give them there first win.
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                                      • jjgold
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                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Kansas City should be a very good play if you can get -6.5
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                                        • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                          • 05-08-14
                                          • 14988

                                          #21
                                          I fukkin locked in on Chiefs Monday while drunk.

                                          Lost all my money in the mean time so I cannot hedge.


                                          Lawd help me.
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                                          • Arrowhead
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 11-08-14
                                            • 27

                                            #22
                                            I am on the Chiefs. We will blow the spread up! Okay it's an emotional bet. Really though KC gets better every week on both sides of the ball.
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                                            • DMoney123
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 11-14-14
                                              • 106

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by birdman24
                                              Everyone teasing KC and taking them ML are clueless!! Can't wait for you guys to lose your money trying to pull off a guaranteed win. Any given day anyone can win!!! It's as simple as Alex smith or Charles getting hurt and then what?
                                              SMH stop hating and get your money up!
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                                              • House
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                                                • 09-04-11
                                                • 7088

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by birdman24
                                                Everyone teasing KC and taking them ML are clueless!! Can't wait for you guys to lose your money trying to pull off a guaranteed win. Any given day anyone can win!!! It's as simple as Alex smith or Charles getting hurt and then what?
                                                is that how you cap games ? What if this guy gets hurt ? What if that guy gets hurt lol ? < Im gonna help you here ... I said this last week " Lynch WILL NOT FINISH THE GAME " I said that in more than one thread before the game started .... You ready for my next one ? Carr WILL NOT FINISH THIS GAME " < watch
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                                                • Seaweed
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                                                  #25
                                                  This game is Oaklands superbowl.
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                                                  • House
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                                                    • 09-04-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Seaweed
                                                    This game is Oaklands superbowl.
                                                    This game is Oakland's funeral
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                                                    • birdman24
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                                                      • 10-13-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by DMoney123
                                                      SMH stop hating and get your money up!
                                                      dont trip off me playa!!

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                                                      • birdman24
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                                                        • 10-13-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Lol I don't cap games that way. That would be stupid. All I was saying is that if Kc is gonna roll tonight why not just give the points instead of taking the moneyline. You never know who can get hurt. I personally would never lay 3500 to win 1000 under any circumstances especially on a big public play.
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                                                        • klemopixx
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                                                          • 10-02-14
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                                                          #29
                                                          If something stupid happens (like the Raiders upsetting the Chiefs) its usually in a division game. I'll pass
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                                                          • Zenyatta 19-1
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                                                            • 11-18-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            wow a lot of rain out there in LA, raining inches! looks to be a running game today
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                                                            • 44 Mag
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by House
                                                              This game is Oakland's funeral
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                                                              • TDKJET1717
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                                                                • 11-11-14
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Zenyatta 19-1
                                                                wow a lot of rain out there in LA, raining inches! looks to be a running game today

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                                                                • House
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                                                                  • 09-04-11
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Chiefs have won 8 out of 10 4th quarters this year ....just throwing that out there ... Chiefs -1/2 forth quarter looks good to me ...Im on Chiefs -6.5 and ml also
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                                                                  • birdman24
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    The house gets foreclosed!!!
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                                                                    • jjgold
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                                                                      • 07-20-05
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      fukkin nFL is impossible
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