Good NBA Game Tonight: Bulls @ Toronto..Is Rose Playing??

[Salmon Steak]

Rose injured again Leaves game in 4th quarter. Left hamstring.

[jjgold]

Its going to be what it could of been with Rose soon

[Spedizzo]

it doesn't even matter if Rose plays anymore

Butler is the real stud on the team

and then they got Gibson, Noah, the little white guy with the glasses

more like Rose who?

[d2bets]

it doesn't even matter if Rose plays anymore

Butler is the real stud on the team

and then they got Gibson, Noah, the little white guy with the glasses

more like Rose who?

And Pau Pau Pau. Pau carried Kobe's jock all those years.

[Chi_archie]

of interest to me is the +/- stat in this game for the starters

Pau Gasol, PF	35	12-19	0-0	3-4	2	9	11	2	1	3	2	2	+11	27
Mike Dunleavy, SF	35	5-10	2-5	2-4	0	5	5	2	1	0	0	0	+21	14
Joakim Noah, C	33	3-5	0-0	0-2	3	5	8	6	3	1	0	3	+7	6
Derrick Rose, PG	30	5-14	1-5	9-10	2	1	3	4	0	0	5	0	+1	20
Jimmy Butler, SG	40	7-10	1-3	6-8	0	9	9	6	0	1	1	3	+17	21

[d2bets]

of interest to me is the +/- stat in this game for the starters

Pau Gasol, PF	35	12-19	0-0	3-4	2	9	11	2	1	3	2	2	+11	27
Mike Dunleavy, SF	35	5-10	2-5	2-4	0	5	5	2	1	0	0	0	+21	14
Joakim Noah, C	33	3-5	0-0	0-2	3	5	8	6	3	1	0	3	+7	6
Derrick Rose, PG	30	5-14	1-5	9-10	2	1	3	4	0	0	5	0	+1	20
Jimmy Butler, SG	40	7-10	1-3	6-8	0	9	9	6	0	1	1	3	+17	21

Small sample, but yeah. Dunleavy's had a real good year so far. Maybe he's pushed by McDermott, who's not getting much PT yet. Pau was awesome last night. He's now got 6 double doubles in 8 games.

[jjgold]

ex nba players really hammering Rose

Man he has to get rid of the pussy label..its spreading

[Spedizzo]

remember when Blake Griffin used to be considered soft because he couldn't handle getting hit in the paint all the time?

look how he turned out

maybe Derrick Rose needs to whoop someone's ass in a night club in Vegas?

maybe jjgold

[jjgold]

Maybe he will change..he has it in him to be tough
Somebody putting stuff in his ear..maybe brother??

There is no doubt when Rose is healthy Bulls are very hard to beat

[chachi]

I think Rose is actually developing a chip on his shoulder and one of these days will explode akin to what happened in the seasons after Nick Anderson's foolish wake-a-sleeping-giant remark to another Chicago player ...

[Chi_archie]

Bulls worst bench on recent years and it will hurt them really bad down the stretch

[chachi]

Sadly archie you are dead on with that opinion

[d2bets]

Bulls worst bench on recent years and it will hurt them really bad down the stretch

Say what? It's just the opposite. Bulls are deeper than ever. They used to actually have to play Nazr Mohammed. Now he's on the bench as the (is 13 or 14 players?) and never plays. Snell is better than last year but is playing less (none when at full health) because the team is deeper. I guess you're saying that Aaron Brooks is not as good as D.J. Augustin (who didn't even start last season with the Bulls)? I really don't agree. Otherwise, I can't imagine what you're talking about? Let's see, Bulls lost the likes of Jimmer Fredette, Mike James, Cartier Martin, Erik Murphy and Marquis Teague. Before that, guys like Vladimir Radmanovic and Malcolm Thomas.

Bulls bench is not just better than last season, but way better. I'm assuming you're downgrading rookies McDermott and Mirotic, who we don't know what they're capable of, but in limited action at times we can see it's plenty, and they will only get better.

Bulls have the best and deepest bench they've had in years and probably the best in the league. That's how they won games even with Rose, Noah, Butler and Gibson all missing games already. That's 4/5 of the starting lineup missing games and yet 7-2.

[Chi_archie]

how deep was the bench yesterday?

[d2bets]

how deep was the bench yesterday?

10 deep, although only 2 played DD minutes, plus 6 seconds from Moore.

But if you're asking about how much time the bench played (68 minutes total), that's just Thibs, and that's nothing new, that's always been the case. Actually Butler playing only 39 minutes is restraint. He used to regularly play the full 48. In terms of talent and ability and productive time, this is the best Bulls bench I can remember. The best. So your claim is really way off. Just look at the dredge that was playing last year and in prior years. It's not even close. Guys like Snell and Mohammed are still on the bench, but much further back in the "rotation", so what does that tell you?

[Chi_archie]

Thibs IS showing he will play the starters MORE, already this early in the season. He has zero trust in his bench guys.

so Mohammed, Moore and Snell will be starting come Feb when everyone is injured

Mirotic and McDermott are shit

[d2bets]

Thibs IS showing he will play the starters MORE, already this early in the season. He has zero trust in his bench guys.

so Mohammed, Moore and Snell will be starting come Feb when everyone is injured

Mirotic and McDermott are shit

You obviously haven't watched the Bulls in past seasons. How do you figure he's playing starters more? Noah 30 mpg (vs. 35-36 last 2 season), Rose only 28 (granted njuries a factor). Butler the same as last year. Dunleavy slightly lower than last year. Gasol more than Boozer, but that's because, well, it's Carols Boozer. So nothing backs up your claims. Sorry.

You can have your opinion on Mirotic and McDermott, and I'll gladly disagree. You can have Nazr Mohammed and Jimmer Fredette instead. I'll take McDermott and Mirotic. Not sure who you think the Bulls are missing from the bench of the last couple seasons. Got some names?

[jjgold]

95% of white players are a whore crap in NBA

I will keep saying this until you guys get sick of it if the bulls stay healthy all year they will be in the NBA finals

[Chi_archie]

2012 Bulls Bench was arguably the best in the NBA

Gibson
Korver
Asik
Watson
Brewer


based on a game Thibs really wanted to win, in Thurs game Thibs is basically confident in 7 players for meaningful mins

[d2bets]

2012 Bulls Bench was arguably the best in the NBA

Gibson
Korver
Asik
Watson
Brewer


based on a game Thibs really wanted to win, in Thurs game Thibs is basically confident in 7 players for meaningful mins

Only reason they played so much was because of Boozer and Hamilton starting. And Gibson is WAY better now.

I'll take:
Gibson 2014 > Gibson 2011
Hinrich > Brewer
Brooks > Watson
McDermott = Korver (McDermott will eventually be better than Korver)
Asik > Mirotic (and same, Mirotic will be better, different player too)

Over that group. That group might have been the best bench. And the current group is the best bench now.

[jjgold]

Rose is out tonight boys

If this Theory works it will be well worth it

[d2bets]

how deep was the bench yesterday?

Rose and Gasol OUT. Bulls beat Clippers in LA by 16.

Butler is an all-star. Bulls mgmt so dumb for not extending him on easy terms, maybe 4/50. Now he's going to be offered like 4/70.

[olamide]

This bulls team is really deep. Facing one of the best team in the west without two of their best and won by 16

[olamide]

Rose and Gasol OUT. Bulls beat Clippers in LA by 16.

Butler is an all-star. Bulls mgmt so dumb for not extending him on easy terms, maybe 4/50. Now he's going to be offered like 4/70.

Bulls management should be whipped

[Jayvegas420]

I know that all games are independent of each other but, Clipper backers should have read this thread before tip tonight.

[jjgold]

Bulls come to play every night

sign of a tremendous coach

[Seto]

Bulls come to play every night

sign of a tremendous coach

Or sign of a coach who can't look at the bigger picture and will have 1/3 of his roster injured in game 3 of the playoffs.

Not saying he isn't a good coach outside of that though. Tremendous defensive coach.

[jjgold]

Clippers biggest pussy team in league

Its a disgrace

[d2bets]

Or sign of a coach who can't look at the bigger picture and will have 1/3 of his roster injured in game 3 of the playoffs.

Not saying he isn't a good coach outside of that though. Tremendous defensive coach.

How do you figure? Every single starter has taken a game(s) off already (except Dunleavy, but add Gibson). If anyone is iffy, they sit. Noah has stuck to his minutes restriction.

[Seto]

How do you figure? Every single starter has taken a game(s) off already (except Dunleavy, but add Gibson). If anyone is iffy, they sit. Noah has stuck to his minutes restriction.

Fair enough, to be honest I haven't paid much attention to the Bulls managing guys' minutes this year. I was just referring to the fact that playing hard every night isn't necessarily a good thing in the long run.