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  • laclippers504
    SBR MVP
    • 08-21-06
    • 4553

    #1
    Pistons +11 VS. Bulls on Monday...
    Seems way to high to me. Rose most likely out. Pistons should be able to hang. Thinking of making Pistons a top play. Any of you take a look at this game yet?
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    Pistons not a bad team

    Just cut Rose..kid does not want to play
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    • bigtymer56
      SBR MVP
      • 07-31-12
      • 4742

      #3
      Pistons and top play dont go together. Good luck if you play it. Probably gonna stay away.

      Only play I see that I like is the Pelicans.
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      • laclippers504
        SBR MVP
        • 08-21-06
        • 4553

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Pistons not a bad team

        Just cut Rose..kid does not want to play
        Coach like I suggested Bulls and Lakers should swap Rose AND Kobe. Not that out of the question. Season just started and Rose is already missing games. Kobe can be his ball dominant self on Chicago and have an outside shot at a chip. I'm sure Pau wouldn't like it but oh well. They made it work before they can make it work again
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        • greypimps
          SBR MVP
          • 09-13-13
          • 2175

          #5
          just hate how the injury update keep saying rose is probable.. and the game comes hes out.. I would play bulls if he plays but if not pistons is a better play.
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          • laclippers504
            SBR MVP
            • 08-21-06
            • 4553

            #6
            Originally posted by greypimps
            just hate how the injury update keep saying rose is probable.. and the game comes hes out.. I would play bulls if he plays but if not pistons is a better play.
            I feel you

            Seems Iike way to many points

            Interested to see where the line is at by time I get to casino, it's definitely a game that I have my eye on
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            • cankid
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-22-08
              • 7229

              #7
              thanks for the info gl tomor
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              • Seto
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-16-11
                • 12906

                #8
                Pistons are 0-6 ATS I guess they have to cover one day. I took them the first day of the season +7 against Denver (who have proven since to be one of the worst teams in the league as I thought), they were covering for 47 minutes then blew it at the end. They're just a piece of trash team. Have zero trust in them.

                That said 11 points is a lot to lay for this Chicago team. Good luck...
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                • moguler
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-28-11
                  • 219

                  #9
                  Pistons and top play don't go together. Never ever trust this trash team. They are a bunch of heartless and overvalued and selfish ball hogs.
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                  • THam12
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-12-13
                    • 12640

                    #10
                    Originally posted by laclippers504
                    Coach like I suggested Bulls and Lakers should swap Rose AND Kobe. Not that out of the question. Season just started and Rose is already missing games. Kobe can be his ball dominant self on Chicago and have an outside shot at a chip. I'm sure Pau wouldn't like it but oh well. They made it work before they can make it work again
                    Jimmy butler is much more valuable than kobe at this point.
                    Don't be dumb.
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                    • Smoke
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-09-09
                      • 48111

                      #11
                      I like it pappy!! Pistons usually perform well as double digit dogs. The line is inflated cus they havent covered a game yet this year. I see this dropping to 10 by gametime pappy.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Bulls fine without anyone
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                        • Seto
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-16-11
                          • 12906

                          #13
                          Originally posted by THam12
                          Jimmy butler is much more valuable than kobe at this point.
                          Don't be dumb.
                          lol delusional. if the bulls get kobe for rose they are instant faves to win the NBA championship. nobody would stop them.

                          butler is a nice player but he's pretty raw offensively and comparing him to kobe bryant is just a complete joke. but people don't appreciate kobe's game on this site so i'm not surprised. all they see is the high FG attempts and label him selfish and team cancer. they don't understand the game.
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                          • THam12
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-12-13
                            • 12640

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Seto
                            lol delusional. if the bulls get kobe for rose they are instant faves to win the NBA championship. nobody would stop them.

                            butler is a nice player but he's pretty raw offensively and comparing him to kobe bryant is just a complete joke. but people don't appreciate kobe's game on this site so i'm not surprised. all they see is the high FG attempts and label him selfish and team cancer. they don't understand the game.
                            I don't think kobe fits the Bulls system in the least bit. I'm a life long bulls fan and a HUGE fan of kobe. He just isn't a fit in that offense or that defense. He would no doubt butt heads with Thib and at this stage in his career I don't think he wants to play the type of defense Thib expects.
                            If rose's luck can change, this team in Chicago is special. Watching rose and Jimmy play together the other day was incredible.
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                            • Seto
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-16-11
                              • 12906

                              #15
                              Originally posted by THam12
                              I don't think kobe fits the Bulls system in the least bit. I'm a life long bulls fan and a HUGE fan of kobe. He just isn't a fit in that offense or that defense. He would no doubt butt heads with Thib and at this stage in his career I don't think he wants to play the type of defense Thib expects.
                              If rose's luck can change, this team in Chicago is special. Watching rose and Jimmy play together the other day was incredible.
                              Ok fair enough.

                              I disagree though, think clippers was spot on when he said Bryant's offense and ability to create his own shot would take this Bulls team to the next level. I'm not saying Rose can't do these things to some extent but if you're in the win-now mentality, Bryant is your guy.

                              Doubt he would clash with Thibs. He has always been from everything you read (funnily enough even in that ridiculous article by Abbott recently) one of the hardest working players in the league. Now the general consensus is that he's taken a step back defensively but he's not become awful either and it's not like the Bulls even need much defense from him. Also there's no one on this Bulls team he would be taking shots away from (ala Dwight) so I doubt anyone would complain about that either. In my eyes it would be the perfect fit for a 1-2 year window obviously, and barring injury would guarantee at least 1 championship in the next 2 years. Long term is a different story.
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                              • THam12
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-12-13
                                • 12640

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Seto
                                Ok fair enough.

                                I disagree though, think clippers was spot on when he said Bryant's offense and ability to create his own shot would take this Bulls team to the next level. I'm not saying Rose can't do these things to some extent but if you're in the win-now mentality, Bryant is your guy.

                                Doubt he would clash with Thibs. He has always been from everything you read (funnily enough even in that ridiculous article by Abbott recently) one of the hardest working players in the league. Now the general consensus is that he's taken a step back defensively but he's not become awful either and it's not like the Bulls even need much defense from him. Also there's no one on this Bulls team he would be taking shots away from (ala Dwight) so I doubt anyone would complain about that either. In my eyes it would be the perfect fit for a 1-2 year window obviously, and barring injury would guarantee at least 1 championship in the next 2 years. Long term is a different story.
                                Great points.
                                Wish more people on this site could have more educated conversations without getting butt hurt when someone disagrees.
                                I love kobe and respect his game a ton. He would no doubt help the bulls offensively. I just don't think the bulls are an iso-offense type of team and I would hate to see that come into chicago because in the end, one scorer does not win a championship.
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                                • lakerboy
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94379

                                  #17
                                  Not sure why bulls keep laying dd points.
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                                  • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 11-29-07
                                    • 26068

                                    #18
                                    Tham..what do u think +11 pistons?
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                                    • Pauulzcappin
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-23-10
                                      • 20295

                                      #19
                                      the +11 is long gone. best is +9.5 juiced
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                                      • KiDBaZkiT
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-20-09
                                        • 14962

                                        #20
                                        Pistons 0-6 ats to start season. Something's gotta give right?
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                                        • WildCelticsFan
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-19-14
                                          • 5420

                                          #21
                                          And the bulls did just lose to Celtics with no rondo or smart
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                                          • Seto
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-16-11
                                            • 12906

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by THam12
                                            Great points.
                                            Wish more people on this site could have more educated conversations without getting butt hurt when someone disagrees.
                                            I love kobe and respect his game a ton. He would no doubt help the bulls offensively. I just don't think the bulls are an iso-offense type of team and I would hate to see that come into chicago because in the end, one scorer does not win a championship.
                                            Yeah the Bulls are at their best offensively when they move the ball but let's face it, down the stretch of games you need a guy who can iso and make tough shots and create offense. Rose can do that to some extent but he's not yet a proven playoff performer and we don't really know if we'll ever see 2011 Rose again. Kobe is the guy you want in that role. And it's not like Kobe can't pass either, he's averaged like 5-6 assists most years in his career.

                                            When you look at last year's series they were right there down the stretch of every game except game 4. They just couldn't buy a bucket in the last few minutes of games. When your best offensive option down the stretch of games is a guy like Nate Robinson or DJ Augustin you have a problem. Can't win like that.
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                                            • THam12
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-12-13
                                              • 12640

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                              Tham..what do u think +11 pistons?
                                              I think that's a lot for the bulls to cover. But think bulls strengths match pistons weaknesses well and could potentially be a beat down.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Lakers would never trade Kobe for Rose

                                                Nobody wants Rose
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                                                • d2bets
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39995

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Lakers would never trade Kobe for Rose

                                                  Nobody wants Rose
                                                  But would not trade Rose for Kobe. End of story.
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                                                  • laclippers504
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-21-06
                                                    • 4553

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Seto
                                                    Ok fair enough.

                                                    I disagree though, think clippers was spot on when he said Bryant's offense and ability to create his own shot would take this Bulls team to the next level. I'm not saying Rose can't do these things to some extent but if you're in the win-now mentality, Bryant is your guy.

                                                    Doubt he would clash with Thibs. He has always been from everything you read (funnily enough even in that ridiculous article by Abbott recently) one of the hardest working players in the league. Now the general consensus is that he's taken a step back defensively but he's not become awful either and it's not like the Bulls even need much defense from him. Also there's no one on this Bulls team he would be taking shots away from (ala Dwight) so I doubt anyone would complain about that either. In my eyes it would be the perfect fit for a 1-2 year window obviously, and barring injury would guarantee at least 1 championship in the next 2 years. Long term is a different story.
                                                    Great post
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                                                    • DOM-Ganador
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-30-12
                                                      • 4479

                                                      #27
                                                      All this Kobe trade for Rose "Fantasy Island" talk and analysis is about as useful as SBR betting points.

                                                      I don`t know what money/years Rose has left, but with his fragilty, why would anyone take a chance on him?
                                                      Kobe is +ev for the Lakers even if they win 15 games. They will cover his contract $ easy. Rose not so much.
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                                                      • Seto
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-16-11
                                                        • 12906

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                                        All this Kobe trade for Rose "Fantasy Island" talk and analysis is about as useful as SBR betting points.

                                                        I don`t know what money/years Rose has left, but with his fragilty, why would anyone take a chance on him?
                                                        Kobe is +ev for the Lakers even if they win 15 games. They will cover his contract $ easy. Rose not so much.
                                                        We're just having a discussion. Not everything has to be "useful". I don't think anyone has said they actually think any kind of trade like that would happen.
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                                                        • DOM-Ganador
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 05-30-12
                                                          • 4479

                                                          #29
                                                          Seto my friend
                                                          This thread is not the first time this exact trade scenario has been brought up.
                                                          Didn`t comment the first time. Felt I had something to say.

                                                          Bol as the season unfolds.
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                                                          • Seto
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-16-11
                                                            • 12906

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                                            Seto my friend
                                                            This thread is not the first time this exact trade scenario has been brought up.
                                                            Didn`t comment the first time. Felt I had something to say.

                                                            Bol as the season unfolds.
                                                            I don't understand that though. Why go into a thread and tell people that what they're talking about is useless?

                                                            Like I said no-one here is talking about whether this trade will happen or not the discussion is just about how it would work out if it happened. If that discussion doesn't seem interesting to you shouldn't you just ignore it?

                                                            Not bashing you or anything I just find it really weird. I mean who knows maybe I've done it in the past too but doesn't make sense to me.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              Stop the bashing we are all here to beat the bookmaker

                                                              Let's use teamwork to make money

                                                              Best of luck to all plays
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                                                              • bigtymer56
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-31-12
                                                                • 4742

                                                                #32
                                                                Hope you stayed away.

                                                                Lebron makes me wish I wouldve stayed away from the Pelicans tonite.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If Bulls are healthy they will be very hard to beat 4 out of 7 games
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                                                                  • PAYTON20
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-02-10
                                                                    • 5217

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    Lakers would never trade Kobe for Rose

                                                                    Nobody wants Rose
                                                                    lmao

                                                                    U mean the Bulls never would??
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