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  • dontknowhowtobet
    SBR MVP
    • 01-21-09
    • 2896

    #71
    Originally posted by KVB
    We're talking about the sports betting marketplace in this thread. We're not talking about the casino floor, we're not talking poker (although it can certainly apply), and we sure as hell aren't talking about political elections.
    There is no difference between casino games and sports betting.
    You think there is but there isn't.
    You think you're a 'better' gambler if you bet on sports and you probably treat casino gamblers as idiots who don't know what to do with their money, but in reality sports betting can be as destructive as casino games ... it doesn't make any difference whether you analyze the Roulette after 10 spins or analyze a tennis game.

    I agree sports betting is a 'better' way to bet, but it's the same way to lose your money ... bookmakers by fact are the ones with the upper hand because they don't bet against you ... they win no matter what the outcome is ... trying to pick winners these days is just impossible in the long run ... so many unpredicted things happen in sports ... you can't predict a baseball winning team because in the 6th inning the pitcher might throw the ball badly and 2 runners will score ... it could happen in the 7th, it could happen with another team ... you don't have a script of what's going to happen in the game, and your chances of predicting the correct score are slim to none ... so you can use some analysis but what is it good for if in the gamezone everything changes?!
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    • dontknowhowtobet
      SBR MVP
      • 01-21-09
      • 2896

      #72
      Originally posted by jjgold
      Don't know the more you say you don't gamble the more you miss it

      I would not doubt if you're gambling right now
      I disagree with you.
      And I'm not gambling right now, as much as you want me to.

      Today is my 50th day of being gambling free.
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      • professionalAD
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-29-14
        • 941

        #73
        please band dontknowhowtobet. guys a GA clown. why do we need him here? its a betting forum not a GA meeting 👍
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        • Tmuston Beltics
          SBR MVP
          • 01-14-13
          • 1253

          #74
          dontknowhowtobet doing the same thing again. a while ago he was posting about how he's done with betting and how good it feels to not bet, was counting days and whatnot. then he started to gamble again, probably got cleaned, now doing the same thing all over again. it's hard to trust a guy who can't even stand behind his words..
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          • dontknowhowtobet
            SBR MVP
            • 01-21-09
            • 2896

            #75
            Originally posted by professionalAD
            please band dontknowhowtobet. guys a GA clown. why do we need him here? its a betting forum not a GA meeting 
            It's your opinion. Some others disagree.
            By the way your English sucks, you say "ban" not "band" ...
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            • professionalAD
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-29-14
              • 941

              #76
              Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
              It's your opinion. Some others disagree.
              By the way your English sucks, you say "ban" not "band" ...
              sorry mrs.dontknowhotobet ill take note of that
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              • dontknowhowtobet
                SBR MVP
                • 01-21-09
                • 2896

                #77
                Originally posted by Tmuston Beltics
                dontknowhowtobet doing the same thing again. a while ago he was posting about how he's done with betting and how good it feels to not bet, was counting days and whatnot. then he started to gamble again, probably got cleaned, now doing the same thing all over again. it's hard to trust a guy who can't even stand behind his words..
                The fact it's hard to stop doesn't mean you won't get there in the end.
                Also I don't recall myself being in the forum after being 50 days clean of gambling whatsoever.

                Last time it was a week or so afterwards, so I relapsed.
                This time it's a much longer gap.
                But in 1 thing you're right, you should never underestimate the ability to ruin it, and that's what I'm doing, every single website I know I just register and permanently self-exclude myself from it.
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #78
                  Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                  There is no difference between casino games and sports betting.
                  You think there is but there isn't.
                  You think you're a 'better' gambler if you bet on sports and you probably treat casino gamblers as idiots who don't know what to do with their money, but in reality sports betting can be as destructive as casino games ... it doesn't make any difference whether you analyze the Roulette after 10 spins or analyze a tennis game.

                  I agree sports betting is a 'better' way to bet, but it's the same way to lose your money ... bookmakers by fact are the ones with the upper hand because they don't bet against you ... they win no matter what the outcome is ... trying to pick winners these days is just impossible in the long run ... so many unpredicted things happen in sports ... you can't predict a baseball winning team because in the 6th inning the pitcher might throw the ball badly and 2 runners will score ... it could happen in the 7th, it could happen with another team ... you don't have a script of what's going to happen in the game, and your chances of predicting the correct score are slim to none ... so you can use some analysis but what is it good for if in the gamezone everything changes?!
                  I don't think you really understand what happens in sports betting. I don't think you understand what is occurring from a marketplace standpoint when a bet is placed. I don’t even think you get the concept of the marketplace. Perhaps I’ll start a thread.
                  It’s not bettor against a tennis match, it’s not bettor against a bookie, it’s bettor against bettor. The bookmakers get their cut, but in the end, the winning bettors take from the losing bettors, the strong take from the weak.
                  You are a losing bettor, thinking you’ve been there and done that with gambling, thinking you’ve learned the truth, when you’ve at best learned part of some truth, you don’t even realize how much you don’t know. The first step for you is to realize you know so little.
                  I’m guessing I’ve taken from you at some point in the past.
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                  • dontknowhowtobet
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-21-09
                    • 2896

                    #79
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    I don't think you really understand what happens in sports betting. I don't think you understand what is occurring from a marketplace standpoint when a bet is placed. I don’t even think you get the concept of the marketplace. Perhaps I’ll start a thread.
                    It’s not bettor against a tennis match, it’s not bettor against a bookie, it’s bettor against bettor. The bookmakers get their cut, but in the end, the winning bettors take from the losing bettors, the strong take from the weak.
                    You are a losing bettor, thinking you’ve been there and done that with gambling, thinking you’ve learned the truth, when you’ve at best learned part of some truth, you don’t even realize how much you don’t know. The first step for you is to realize you know so little.
                    I’m guessing I’ve taken from you at some point in the past.
                    Yes, you are taking from someone else - you exactly nailed it.
                    The bookmaker is there to take your money, and to take the other bettor's money, that's why they set withdrawal limits, verifications, take their time, allow you cancel withdrawals and so forth.

                    Besides the fee they take they are the ones who make you and other bettors go broke.
                    And yes, you also have BetFair which is the perfect place for you to bet against someone else.

                    Call it "weak" and "strong", I call it being an idiot.
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                    • ItsMeMrMattE
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-30-10
                      • 5294

                      #80
                      was about to post an almost identical response KVB when i saw him say "There is no difference between casino games and sports betting." but decided theres no point. its like having a religious argument with people like this. he believes what he believes and i believe what i believe. nothing said is going to change the opinion of either side.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #81
                        Two biggest reasons are money-management and secondly bedding too many events
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                        • Jcole94
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-06-14
                          • 624

                          #82
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          Two biggest reasons are money-management and secondly bedding too many events
                          thats true. you have to find the games you think have value
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #83
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Two biggest reasons are money-management and secondly bedding too many events
                            Originally posted by Jcole94
                            thats true. you have to find the games you think have value
                            Ah…betting too many events…could be a whole thread itself.

                            Often betting too many games at once, or putting a high percentage of your bankroll out at one time, actually becomes a money management issue. For example, that college basketball board is huge and if there are enough good plays it may require a special treatment and deep pockets.

                            But betting too many events doesn’t stop there. You may have found solid, valid plays, played them, but still want action on the televised night game. Or maybe this is the week a team bounces back in front of the home crowd, you just “know” it, but your numbers don’t quite fit the conclusion. Maybe you’re torn between two and go for both. The reasons are plentiful, and I think we all have some.

                            You can see why that shift JJ, while not very good at spelling, sees these as two big issues that can get in the way of being a successful gambler.



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