Football Futures to win it all....Any chance here?

**El Nino** · 07-31-14, 10:23 PM

Like LSU & South Carolina, South Carolina more. Saints for NFL.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 07-31-14, 10:26 PM

Yeah Saints are a good choice.....Just at 13/1 too short of odds for me at the moment.....Will probably end up getting some money down on them if they start a little slow

**TheMetsSuck** · 07-31-14, 10:29 PM

really like oregon future

**MoneyLineDawg** · 07-31-14, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by TheMetsSuck

really like oregon future

They will be in it for sure but again short odds for me at 8/1...Took a stab on UCLA as I think they have a great shot to come out of the Pac 12, really like their QB Hundley

**STAX** · 07-31-14, 11:50 PM

I like Bengals and LSU the most on that list

**STAX** · 07-31-14, 11:52 PM

Also like the jets and u should throw $20 on Cleveland (+9000)

**Cuse0323** · 07-31-14, 11:53 PM

Fan of the Cardinals and LSU bets. Falcons should bounce back as well.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 07-31-14, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by STAX

Also like the jets and u should throw $20 on Cleveland (+9000)

Yup their defense should keep them in games and Josh Gordon with an outside chance of winning his appeal

Going to bet them now

**MoneyLineDawg** · 07-31-14, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

Fan of the Cardinals and LSU bets. Falcons should bounce back as well.

Yeah Falcons invested a lot into their d-line and their offense should be good....Losing Tony G will hurt though

Cardinals can win it all but the hard part will be making the playoffs in that division....If they get in, they can get hot and beat anyone

Lots of LSU love....They're always in it with that talent

**Cuse0323** · 08-01-14, 12:03 AM

Yeah everyone on LSU scares me and with the Cardinals you're depending on Carson, so that's rough.

More I think about it, really like taking a shot on the Falcons. It's usually a new team every year in that division. Love the Freeman kid from FSU, great duo on the outside and a lot of play makers. TE will be rough but other than that, solid group all around.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-01-14, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

Yeah everyone on LSU scares me and with the Cardinals you're depending on Carson, so that's rough.

More I think about it, really like taking a shot on the Falcons. It's usually a new team every year in that division. Love the Freeman kid from FSU, great duo on the outside and a lot of play makers. TE will be rough but other than that, solid group all around.

Yup...Freeman one of my sleepers in FF

Falcons undervalued for sure....last year more of a mulligan year IMO but we'll see

**TonyTall** · 08-01-14, 12:21 AM

if anyone can find a marshall future thats solid. should be around 70-1

they are stacked with returners and one outlet has them at 20% to go undefeated in the regular season. and with the playoff format a 12-0 midmajor team might get a shot this year

**STAX** · 08-01-14, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by TonyTall

if anyone can find a marshall future thats solid. should be around 70-1

they are stacked with returners and one outlet has them at 20% to go undefeated in the regular season. and with the playoff format a 12-0 midmajor team might get a shot this year

good find

**STAX** · 08-01-14, 12:44 AM

Also like the Bills at +12500. Already decent to good defense, added Watkins with Robert Woods and Marquis Goodwin (def some talent there). TE Chandler good in red zone (added Toni Meioki from KC too) Have 3 RBs who could start for someone else (Bryce Brown, Fred Jackson, Spiller). EJ Manuel is the key, and I dont know about their O-line... Miami will finish last in that division, and Im not convinced NE is gonna run away with it. This isn't New England of old, although you can never count them out. I think Jets win 8-10 and Bills win 7-9 games. Bet them both and get one in the playoffs and its a good bet.

I dont really like the Cards and Rams bets... thats toughest division in NFL. Unless things go crazy, they are both competing with the rest of the NFC for 1 wildcard spot. I like to bet on longshots in wide open divisions (NFC South and East, AFC North) I actually think the AFC East is wide open this year too. Colts and Broncos should win their division easily (love Colts at +2500), but i think the other 4 AFC playoffs spots are up for grabs between basically every team but Oakland and Miami. I even give the Jags a smidge of a shot.

I bet similar to you on some SB futures but took a few favs mixed in

**jjgold** · 08-01-14, 07:39 AM

Its a lot of luck for a team to win a title everything has to go right and of course you need the talent plus injury free

**El Nino** · 08-01-14, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

Yeah everyone on LSU scares me and with the Cardinals you're depending on Carson, so that's rough.

More I think about it, really like taking a shot on the Falcons. It's usually a new team every year in that division. Love the Freeman kid from FSU, great duo on the outside and a lot of play makers. TE will be rough but other than that, solid group all around.

Don't sweat Palmer, he's improved in his 2nd year with the Bengals and the Raiders. 2nd year in Aryans' system, O-line should be much improved this year. Ellington is a weapon and Floyd poised for a solid year.

**BigdaddyQH** · 08-01-14, 02:58 PM

In a word, none. It is wagers like these that pay for all of those fancy neon lights in Vegas. Cleveland? Really? Buffalo? Every one of those pro wagers is a loser. College? You are way too heavy on SEC teams. There is a playoff system now and it is extremely unlikely that a two team loss is going to get in. LSU plays Ole Miss and Georgia plays South Carolina, so you have probably eliminated two of your teams right there.

**bob6199** · 08-01-14, 08:52 PM

you might as well just

**Cuse0323** · 08-01-14, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by El Nino

Don't sweat Palmer, he's improved in his 2nd year with the Bengals and the Raiders. 2nd year in Aryans' system, O-line should be much improved this year. Ellington is a weapon and Floyd poised for a solid year.

I do have a nice feeling about him this year, he throws too many INT's but another year like you said and they can get on the same page offensively. My only future this year will be on the Cardinals.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-01-14, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

In a word, none. It is wagers like these that pay for all of those fancy neon lights in Vegas. Cleveland? Really? Buffalo? Every one of those pro wagers is a loser. College? You are way too heavy on SEC teams. There is a playoff system now and it is extremely unlikely that a two team loss is going to get in. LSU plays Ole Miss and Georgia plays South Carolina, so you have probably eliminated two of your teams right there.

OK...None have a chance? Tell us all who will win then and I'll bet em

I know those SEC teams play eachother.....Alteast one of em will make it to Atlanta, possibly 2

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-01-14, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by bob6199

you might as well just

I said in the OP that I hit a small long shot parlay just messing around and put some of the winnings on these wagers.....If they all lose I don't care at all

20 dollar bets here totaling like $320.....I expect a few of these NFL teams to make the playoffs and atleast 1 of these college football teams I got to make the final 4 playoff, then who knows.....More for entertainment value of having some futures alive and maybe get a little lucky and make some cash

**boomer62** · 08-02-14, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

I said in the OP that I hit a small long shot parlay just messing around and put some of the winnings on these wagers.....If they all lose I don't care at all

20 dollar bets here totaling like $320.....I expect a few of these NFL teams to make the playoffs and atleast 1 of these college football teams I got to make the final 4 playoff, then who knows.....More for entertainment value of having some futures alive and maybe get a little lucky and make some cash

Think about it? If I lose I don't care? You just threw away 320 on a hope and a prayer, that 320 could have been bet on something worthwhile. Playing futures is a losing proposition. This were self discipline and money management come in. Almost every team has no shot except the JETS ,LMAO.

**jjgold** · 08-02-14, 09:21 AM

SF just missed a few times and were probably the best team the last 2 years in NFL

Can they come back again??

**MoneyLineDawg** · 08-02-14, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by boomer62

Think about it? If I lose I don't care? You just threw away 320 on a hope and a prayer, that 320 could have been bet on something worthwhile. Playing futures is a losing proposition. This were self discipline and money management come in. Almost every team has no shot except the JETS ,LMAO.

It's 300 dollars that will last the whole football season rooting for these teams...I don't expect to win money but I do expect a few of these teams to make it interesting in the playoffs and then who knows?

It's all a gamble in the end...If you worry about when you lose money you're never going to make money

**TonyTall** · 08-02-14, 12:09 PM

if you are a rec bettor futures are good. they are a good way to tie up money that you cant lose when you go on tilt

if you are a pro you can still cherry pick some good futures now and then. FSU was 23-1 the day before they buttraped clemson in death valley last year. and they were favored in that game remember. some futures are good but you need multiple books to find the gems

**OckertCR** · 08-02-14, 12:13 PM

I would stay away from the falcons if I were you.

They don't have the mindset of a true contender.

This was the second straight year that the defense was clearly the biggest issue with the football team and they continually fail to address that aspect.

They aren't built to win anything.

Saints are a few classes above them

**STAX** · 08-02-14, 03:45 PM

Love all the advice from losing gamblers.... lmao. I got you MoneyLineDog...

**ChiLLx** · 08-02-14, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by STAX

Also like the Bills at +12500. Already decent to good defense, added Watkins with Robert Woods and Marquis Goodwin (def some talent there). TE Chandler good in red zone (added Toni Meioki from KC too) Have 3 RBs who could start for someone else (Bryce Brown, Fred Jackson, Spiller). EJ Manuel is the key, and I dont know about their O-line... Miami will finish last in that division, and Im not convinced NE is gonna run away with it. This isn't New England of old, although you can never count them out. I think Jets win 8-10 and Bills win 7-9 games. Bet them both and get one in the playoffs and its a good bet.

I dont really like the Cards and Rams bets... thats toughest division in NFL. Unless things go crazy, they are both competing with the rest of the NFC for 1 wildcard spot. I like to bet on longshots in wide open divisions (NFC South and East, AFC North) I actually think the AFC East is wide open this year too. Colts and Broncos should win their division easily (love Colts at +2500), but i think the other 4 AFC playoffs spots are up for grabs between basically every team but Oakland and Miami. I even give the Jags a smidge of a shot.

I bet similar to you on some SB futures but took a few favs mixed in

Bills over 6.5

**Cuse0323** · 08-04-14, 03:02 AM

I forgot how much I love the Giants futures until tonight. Nothing to do with the game, just a reminder. The over and them winning the division is a great bet to me.

Cardinals and Giants, my two futures for this year. Not the SB for the Giants though.

**STAX** · 08-04-14, 03:39 AM

Cards are going no where this year I hate to say. 7 wins max

**scumbag** · 08-04-14, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

Yeah everyone on LSU scares me and with the Cardinals you're depending on Carson, so that's rough.

More I think about it, really like taking a shot on the Falcons. It's usually a new team every year in that division. Love the Freeman kid from FSU, great duo on the outside and a lot of play makers. TE will be rough but other than that, solid group all around.

If I'm taking a long shot future. I'd never bet the falcons. I think they will finish at the bottom of the south. The front 7 of their D is a huge question, along with o line (Matthews should help). Panthers I worry secondary, offensive weapons, o line. The south will come down to the saints or Tampa.

like Cards, Rams, Jets bets. All have strong D, o lines that I like. Everyone of those teams is better than last year. Rams and cards are in the toughest division I've ever seen. I doubt they can even make the playoffs. And obv the jets aren't winning the Super Bowl so you'll be wasting money almost for sure.

everyone else on the list is drawing dead. Lions have a small chance, great front 4 and a lot of weapons on O. The bungles have a small chance on paper. But c'mon they never win a game that matters. Doubt that will change.