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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    Shari some respect learn your place.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjy View Post
    Without non-founder posters this place wouldn't exist.
    I don't think you understand how little it costs to run a forum. Without the founders SBR wouldn't exist. This isn't a debate about the chicken and the egg.

    Again, get a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyboarding View Post
    I don't think you understand how little it costs to run a forum. Without the founders SBR wouldn't exist. This isn't a debate about the chicken and the egg.

    Again, get a clue.
    Costs nothing for a small forum but much more for the larger ones that want to be successful. I'd put SBR is in the larger group and bet it costs more than people think. Of course this is just speculation.

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    Need a Tacomax appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyboarding View Post
    I don't think you understand how little it costs to run a forum. Without the founders SBR wouldn't exist. This isn't a debate about the chicken and the egg.

    Again, get a clue.
    Stay crazy dude.

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    What made sbr what it is now is not the "founders" like fishead.

    What made SBR great is :-

    1> You can file a complaint against any book at SBR. Most sites wont offer this.

    2> SBR odds. Easily, the best feature of this site. And its free.

    3> betpoints. I dont like them...but it drives the sheep nuts.

    4> Contests. No site has this number of sponsored contests.

    5> SBR Poker. I dont use it but its very nice.

    6> JJgold. The dude is hillarious and deserves kudos.


    Founders desnt mean shit to the site. So they were the first people to join the site...big deal. They joined million other sites as well....where are they now?

    The biggest problem any site faces is retaining the people once they join. SBR has done a good job of this...because of the reasons I mentioned above.

    Fishead, dont flatter youself too much...you are not as good as you think with the "online persona" you have created here.

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    why does fishnuts beg the nods to delete his threads???? pleeeease i want answers....fishnuts be a man and answer the question...why do you cry to the mods to delete threads for u??? your old buddy illusion is telling all your secrets across the street...he is fukkin burying ur sorry ass hahaha

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    How come some of the founders are not SBR Pros?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMobile View Post
    How come some of the founders are not SBR Pros?
    cuz they tailed fishnuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMobile View Post
    How come some of the founders are not SBR Pros?
    Because they are on the payroll.

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    only thing fh found in 2005 was johns half eaten bagel and a used condom in his dumpster.

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    I made Walker over 2 million through the years

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    What made sbr what it is now is not the "founders" like fishead.

    What made SBR great is :-

    1> You can file a complaint against any book at SBR. Most sites wont offer this.

    2> SBR odds. Easily, the best feature of this site. And its free.

    3> betpoints. I dont like them...but it drives the sheep nuts.

    4> Contests. No site has this number of sponsored contests.

    5> SBR Poker. I dont use it but its very nice.

    6> JJgold. The dude is hillarious and deserves kudos.


    Founders desnt mean shit to the site. So they were the first people to join the site...big deal. They joined million other sites as well....where are they now?

    The biggest problem any site faces is retaining the people once they join. SBR has done a good job of this...because of the reasons I mentioned above.

    Fishead, dont flatter youself too much...you are not as good as you think with the "online persona" you have created here.
    Those that have been here since the beginning realize that JJGold had the biggest affect building SBR. The traffic that JJGold created allowed the rest of the above to occur. SBR also has been more proactive than the other sites but without the traffic from JJGold, another site would be at the top. There's a reason why he's been paid at many other sites. The best was when he was made a mod at MW. Within the first 30 minutes, he banned all of his enemies including the owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Those that have been here since the beginning realize that JJGold had the biggest affect building SBR. The traffic that JJGold created allowed the rest of the above to occur. SBR also has been more proactive than the other sites but without the traffic from JJGold, another site would be at the top. There's a reason why he's been paid at many other sites. The best was when he was made a mod at MW. Within the first 30 minutes, he banned all of his enemies including the owner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by romecloneout View Post
    why does fishnuts beg the Mods to delete his threads???? pleeeease i want answers....fishnuts be a man and answer the question...why do you cry to the mods to delete threads for u??? your old buddy illusion is telling all your secrets across the street...he is fukkin burying ur sorry ass hahaha


    As stated, other than RELOAD(who I never communicate with any way, shape, or form other than on the forum), do I even know who the other mods are at this site...........and you're accussing me of begging mods to delete my threads????........................you'r e not really a funny clown, just a stupid one.



    Do I need SBR JOHN to explain this to you Mrs. numbnuts??




    GOOD THREAD............another winning thread for SBR

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    Quote Originally Posted by romecloneout View Post
    why does fishnuts beg the nods to delete his threads???? pleeeease i want answers....fishnuts be a man and answer the question...why do you cry to the mods to delete threads for u??? your old buddy illusion is telling all your secrets across the street...he is fukkin burying ur sorry ass hahaha
    Hahaha suck shitt Fishguts. Go diving in the dumpsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    GOOD THREAD............another winning thread for SBR
    Only an idiot like you would think this is a "winning thread".

    This thread is a classic case of CRASH AND BURN.

    All the posters buried your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    Hahaha suck shitt Fishguts. Go diving in the dumpsters.

    Good time this evening with numerous posters here in Sin City...............the HARD ROCK, M, and SOUTHPOINT were very good hosts to all of us.

    The barrell racing at the National Finals Rodeo were very enticing...........it was great meeting many of the gals that participated in the event.


    God Bless Utah!!



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    i remember back in the day ....

    Nobody cares, your all entitled to your opinions so fire away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Those that have been here since the beginning realize that JJGold had the biggest affect building SBR. The traffic that JJGold created allowed the rest of the above to occur. SBR also has been more proactive than the other sites but without the traffic from JJGold, another site would be at the top. There's a reason why he's been paid at many other sites. The best was when he was made a mod at MW. Within the first 30 minutes, he banned all of his enemies including the owner.
    Are you nukking futs?What's next,a thread telling us Newton is better than Cutler?

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    Good stuff here

    I will take some credit but my biggest achievements to this day at SBR are getting many people to use spreadsheet and making vids and pics mainstream

    When I first got here no one used spreadsheet other than me and i never fukkin stopped promoting it everyday right up until today and still lead by example, same with vids and pics..so many guys now doing it

    SBR ODDS I pounded also in every video

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    Founders or Flounders I would go with the 2nd choice....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBENZ View Post
    Are you nukking futs?What's next,a thread telling us Newton is better than Cutler?
    lol- I'll take Hanie over Newton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Those that have been here since the beginning realize that JJGold had the biggest affect building SBR. The traffic that JJGold created allowed the rest of the above to occur. SBR also has been more proactive than the other sites but without the traffic from JJGold, another site would be at the top. There's a reason why he's been paid at many other sites. The best was when he was made a mod at MW. Within the first 30 minutes, he banned all of his enemies including the owner.
    So JJ took money from other sites but only worked his "magic" for SBR? If he's such a huge draw why aren't they just as big and doing just as well?

    Seems like your argument defeats itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benjy View Post
    So JJ took money from other sites but only worked his "magic" for SBR? If he's such a huge draw why aren't they just as big and doing just as well?

    Seems like your argument defeats itself.
    EOG was bigger than SBR before JJGold left EOG.

    Then JJGold went to SBR and built traffic here. SBR is more of a visionary than EOG and developed many of the ideas posted earlier in the thread. The only other person that was as big of a draw as JJ was Shrink. Now that Shrink passed, EOG has very little traffic.

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    What a bunch of fckn clowns..

    Who gives a fck about the founders of a sports forum..

    You people really need to leave the house sometime, Same people on everyday all day and night.. it's truly sad if u really think about it
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    wtf gave Landscaper 1 SBR Point(s) for this post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    If not for them, you would not be here today.

    Take care gang, and thanks for the time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post


    Founders rock
    how about Founders get 50% off at SBRstore ?

    or we'll go back to Rx .

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Wanty numbers do not lie
    We have no competiton
    Covers blows you guys away and I doubt it is even a contest there. I would say the RX still gets way more traffic too. But the RX is basically just a forum site and little else to offer. But Covers has been the site with the most traffic for probably a decade. Their forums are mostly trash, but like I said so are everyone elses now. But a tn of people go there for their writes ups, their match ups their stats and whatever else they do. I dont go there anywhere near as much as I used to, but basically Covers is a place everyone goes to when theyre going to make a bet.

    This place USED to have a decent odds tracking and datamining portal but you frigged that all up months ago and it is trash now. So the one thing you had that was better than most you broke. The one positive is there arent tout ads splashed all over the place. That is basically the difference.

    Now I am not sure if this post was meant to be a shout out to posters or the site in general. But both are a little misplaced maybe. Because I would say the only guys posting here exclusively are guys getting paid. Shit, the guy that started the thread is posting all over the internet and hangs out with posters from other boards in vegas. As did you when you were there. Didnt you hang out with a bunch of EOG and RX guys the last couple times you went there? When you were suposedly on 'business' for this place? That hows how meaningful specific forums/sites actually are. And shores up my point that everyone lurks or outright posts at half a dozen boards all over the place, and you wont find something at one that wont be mentioned on at least two others. Although Fezzik bashing is sort of exclusive to the EOG these days, or fezziks own site.

    The days of the 'us' against 'them' mentality died a long time ago. There is no real competition anymore so few people betting offshore now and so few books taking US customers they all just have ads at every existing place that generates even a little bit of traffic. And there isnt enough money to be made from guys at these types of sites anymore to make charging the exorbitant fees that used to be charged possible anymore. The offshore world has changed completely. Some for the better. some for the worse. But used to be that the start of the NFL had a dozen new sportsbooks starting up and all posting all over the forums with differing forum owners and posters pimping them. How many new books sprouted up over the past few years? Obviously 90% of them were scam joints but that was why forums mattered.

    And dont start with 'this place gets things done' nonsense. This place doesnt do shit, at least in regards to a legitimate debt. ANYONE can get a guy paid a couple hundred bux..eventually, But if a guy is owed a substantial amount you think any site is going to get the money from them? Hw many complaint threads get posted here from people and then you have the forum terrorists chime in and bury the guy and give excuses as to why they arent getting paid or that they personally have never had a problem with said book. That alone makes the forum in this place absolutely worthless for people with LEGIT claims against a sportsbook.

    I am done with this thread as it is basically an example of everything I have said about the whole matter.
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    Wanti is as cluesless as they come..............hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Wanti is as cluesless as they come..............hilarious.
    LOL youre one of the biggest frauds and that is pretty hilarious but I think more people are starting to realize that nowadays.

    But I would match my betting acumen against yours any day of the week thats for sure. So if I am clueless I am not sure what that makes you.

    The biggest difference between guys like you and guys like me is the ability to form an independent thought and then have the ability to back it up. "right' or 'wrong'. But ultimately in the world of sports betting the 'right' guys and the 'wrong' guys can only be classified by how much money they make. Since I made enough to basically be able to retire at age 40 (I turned 43 yesterday) I figre that makes me a guy that is pretty 'right'.

    The fact that I dont have to schlep it around town or bonus whore or make another bet ever for that matter means I 'beat' the game.

    How many so called experts or geniuses or whatever other monicker you want to give them can say that? Theyre all still on the boards beating the bushes for recognition, money, or followers to tout themselves to. Or still trying to prove to people how smart they are.

    Anyone that thinks I am clueless or doesnt know what I am talking about just shows how out of touch they themselves are. Or have been brainwashed or convinced themselves they know what theyre doing so deeply they just dont get it.

    I have been posting on these boards for about 12-13 years, I have yet to be exposed for anything other than I claim. I have never made any contradictory statements and have been a straight forawrd and forth right as anyone. And I have yet to have anyone ever put up opposition to something I have said or talked about that could be checked. Most people just make dumb comments without any backing, thinking that what they have in their heads is more than what someone can pull up and print out for everyone to see.

    I have made some pretty bold statements and gone against a lot of 'conventional wisdom' over that time. But I have yet to have that conventional wisdom be proven to be anything but folk tales and mythology. I am bascially Christpher Columbus and the rest of you half wits are guys who still think the world is flat.

    And on that little nugget I am done.

  33. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Wanti is as cluesless as they come..............hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post


    As stated, other than RELOAD(who I never communicate with any way, shape, or form other than on the forum), do I even know who the other mods are at this site...........and you're accussing me of begging mods to delete my threads????........................you'r e not really a funny clown, just a stupid one.



    Do I need SBR JOHN to explain this to you Mrs. numbnuts??




    GOOD THREAD............another winning thread for SBR
    hey mrs. fishnuts im sure sbrjohn will say you dont beg the mods to delete your posts, he doesnt want to let everyone else know that if you bitch and moan enough to the mods they will delete your posts...haha uinreal a grown fukkin man begging mods to erase his posts. it really doesnt get much more pathetic than that kiddo! ahahaha

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    Wantitall makes me want to quit gambling forever

    Guy reminds us in every post how he has beat sports to the point he can retire at a young age and yet he is still the most unhappy tilter on the board...

    Think I would rather be Battle4life begging my Uncle for funds than Wantitall...

    Looks like we are all doomed no matter what...

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