Eli Manning IS An ELITE Pro QB.......

[HedBustah1]

some of you guys think its all about the #s, thats probably why most of you are losing gamblers, watch the game people

[Speedy88]

Imagine the Chargers to drafted him #1 years ago. Eli throwing to Gates and Vincent Jackson, along with LT in the backfield. Wow....

[NYSportsGuy210]

Imagine the Chargers to drafted him #1 years ago. Eli throwing to Gates and Vincent Jackson, along with LT in the backfield. Wow....

Yup. Then this would be even more clearer how special he is. Also I don' t think he has missed a start in his career since being a starter either. ( I could be wrong on this though?)

[daimoshokage]

[8ArIvd5]

eli's going to get smashed next week. giants run game will be non-existent. 49ers going to own the clock and field position all day. andy lee will keep you guys on the other side damn near the entire game.

[paco]

[iifold]

[jgray]

Eli has a lot of these kinds of games. Way too often to be considered elite. Good player, just not elite.

[NYSportsGuy210]

Eli has a lot of these kinds of games. Way too often to be considered elite. Good player, just not elite.

No he doesn't....you just brought up this thread after one silly bad game this year. Way to jump the gun pal.

[face]

he is doing fine, his recievers are making errors.

[NYSportsGuy210]

Plus it's only half time. He might go all Aaron Rodgers after a few adjustments in the locker room....who knows.

[jgray]

No he doesn't....you just brought up this thread after one silly bad game this year. Way to jump the gun pal.

Check who made the bump, bud. Wasn't me.

That said, I stand by my statement. He does this too often. The best don't have these kinds of games as often as Eli does. It's not acceptable.

[yD]

He plays great as an underdog. Not wise to bet against him on the road in a tough situation. Also not wise to bet on him against a team he should be rolling. Kind of the opposite of his brother.

[the_situation]

Eli has a lot of these kinds of games. Way too often to be considered elite. Good player, just not elite.

[billysink]

some of you guys think its all about the #s, thats probably why most of you are losing gamblers, watch the game people

By far the most intelligent post in this thread.

3 pages of shit about a run of the mill football team.

[Djstucky]

Check who made the bump, bud. Wasn't me.

That said, I stand by my statement. He does this too often. The best don't have these kinds of games as often as Eli does. It's not acceptable.

I agree completely...

[jgray]

Plus it's only half time. He might go all Aaron Rodgers after a few adjustments in the locker room....who knows.

Most Giant backers would settle for a little Matt Flynn right about now....

[paco]

Most Giant backers would settle for a little Matt Flynn right about now....

[billysink]

Nah Eli has that "magic". It's that Manning spunk. Archie is truly a god send to the NFL.

Oh yea and fcuk Kevin Boss too. You cave him out in Oakland. We got the second coming of Mark Bavaro at TE with this Ballard kid. What a pair hands on this guy.

Bring on Jim Harbaugh and corn hole SF 69er squad next week. Our front four will expose their fraud QB and take it 23-13 next week in their building.

Yes that is quite a pair of hands on Ballard. You wish your girl dropped her drawers as much as he drops the football.

[paco]

Wha will Eli do @ home with a chance to tie it? 2 timeouts and 2 min warning.

[vitalogist]

Eli Manning < Jake Delhomme

[billysink]

Who cares. He has been completely outplayed by....................


























VINCE YOUNG

[paco]

Fumbled and turned the ball over.

[NYSportsGuy210]

Eli is a stud. Case closed. Top 5 NFL QB in the league.

[NYSportsGuy210]

Who cares. He has been completely outplayed by....................


























VINCE YOUNG

Actually Eli doesn't play defense....so ......NO

[jjgold]

He can thrown the fukkin ball and not afraid to fire into coverage

Yes a top 5 QB in NFL, seems he has turnovers at bad times but he always gives his team a chance to win

[p19101]

I wouldn't trade Eli for any other QB even if he might be considered less than Brees, Brady or Rodgers.

He really has stepped up his game, freaking half the team is injured and he still taking us to the playoffs

[SXRD71]

^^+1 and that. Imagine if he a better corp of receivers.

[Monitor-Tan]

Bottm line he's a winner and doesn't quit

[k13]

Eli IS Elite.

[C-Gold]

The Giants came out flat today and Eli's stat sheet sucked. But did he really play bad?

Hakeem Nicks dropped an easy touchdown. He was 5 yards past the defender and Eli put the ball right there and he dropped it.
Nicks dropped about 2-3 other balls today in one of his worst games as a pro
Cruz dropped 2 balls that came to my head
Eli had a deflected pass that should have been a catch that was intercepted by Atogwe
Manningham ran the wrong route in the end zone, result ---> INT for Eli
Mario Manningham sucks. The guy runs wrong routes all the time, sloppy routes, drops too many balls. Does that effect his stats?
TD pass called back to the 1 yard line
The blocking wasn't very good today either.

So when ESPN runs through the highlights of course Eli gets the blame but he did what he was supposed to do and his receivers played awful games with Manningham, Nicks, and Cruz all making big mistakes and playing sloppy. Eli did what he was supposed to do. If his receivers did what they were supposed to do maybe instead of 0TD and 3INT he would have had 2 or 3 TD and 0 or 1 INT and a different game.

That's the point when the QB plays well but the guys around him suck the QB is still tainted with crappy stats. Eli played way way way better than his stats today.

[dlunc3]

The Giants came out flat today and Eli's stat sheet sucked. But did he really play bad?

Hakeem Nicks dropped an easy touchdown. He was 5 yards past the defender and Eli put the ball right there and he dropped it.
Nicks dropped about 2-3 other balls today in one of his worst games as a pro
Cruz dropped 2 balls that came to my head
Eli had a deflected pass that should have been a catch that was intercepted by Atogwe
Manningham ran the wrong route in the end zone, result ---> INT for Eli
Mario Manningham sucks. The guy runs wrong routes all the time, sloppy routes, drops too many balls. Does that effect his stats?
TD pass called back to the 1 yard line
The blocking wasn't very good today either.

So when ESPN runs through the highlights of course Eli gets the blame but he did what he was supposed to do and his receivers played awful games with Manningham, Nicks, and Cruz all making big mistakes and playing sloppy. Eli did what he was supposed to do. If his receivers did what they were supposed to do maybe instead of 0TD and 3INT he would have had 2 or 3 TD and 0 or 1 INT and a different game.

That's the point when the QB plays well but the guys around him suck the QB is still tainted with crappy stats. Eli played way way way better than his stats today.

thats all well and good... but why did he get credit when playing so well last week?? noone mentioned his first pass of the game that shoulda been a pick6 that dallas dropped... or how bout when asante dropped the pick in the sb that woulda won the game?

this works both ways, and all comes out in the wash...

[C-Gold]

thats all well and good... but why did he get credit when playing so well last week?? noone mentioned his first pass of the game that shoulda been a pick6 that dallas dropped... or how bout when asante dropped the pick in the sb that woulda won the game?

this works both ways, and all comes out in the wash...

Actually it doesn't. Giants receivers have led the league in dropped balls. Also tipped passes that get intercepted.

In all fairness it's a complicated offense. Mario Manningham ran the wrong route and it was intercepted. That doesn't effect his stats at all but it's a pick for Eli. Since we were lucky to have 1 intelligent guy calling the game he pointed it out but people that didn't watch the game will think he played awful.

Every QB has dropped interceptions, even Tom Brady. Now you want to count those too?

The Giants also throw the ball downfield much more than other teams and as of last week Eli led the league in 20+ yard completions. He doesn't inflate his stats with all of these screen passes. I'd argue the giants need a RB who can catch to give him some cheap screen yards and mix things up. Instead he's throwing downfield all game.

[fowlahranks]

how many interceptions did he throw?

[NeverBackDown]

how many interceptions did he throw?

Three