Is Brady really that much Better John Elway?

The Factor · 01-16-14, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

Yes. Elway is a horse toothed jackass who won 2 rings because of Terrell Davis.

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greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:01 PM

You going to use stats and facts to back up that claim? You do know your opinion means nothing right?

Chi_archie · 01-16-14, 04:01 PM

How old was Elway when he won his first Super Bowl?

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:03 PM

You mean how old was Elway when Davis won him his first title?

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

How old was Elway when he won his first Super Bowl?

Elway took 3 trash teams to the SuperBowl.

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

You mean how old was Elway when Davis won him his first title?

ah you're just a penetrating hater lol

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:05 PM

.............you were asked to use facts to back up your claim. Why are you running away from reality?

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

You mean how old was Elway when Davis won him his first title?

what has shanahan done without elway? the year elway retired. The broncos had all the same players minus john and didnt even make the playoffs so suck my rooster lol

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

.............you were asked to use facts to back up your claim. Why are you running away from reality?

going to 5 super bowls isnt enough for you?

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:06 PM

Which QB has more TDs
Which QB has more INTs
Which QB has a higher completion %
Which QB has a better winning %
Which QB has more playoff wins

Elway has Brady beat in just one of those and it's not the one you want to be ahead on.

Elway

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by The Factor

going to 5 super bowls isnt enough for you?

Brady has been to 5 superbowls and won more than Elway.... you were asked to provide facts that shows Elway is BETTER, not worse. Come on now.

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

Brady has been to 5 superbowls and won more than Elway.....more facts please

look at the circumstances you dumb penetrate lmao. brady has a genius running the team. Cant penetrate with belichick. Elway never had a great receiver or a great defense. Brady would be trash with a bad o-line. Elway could carry any team because of his mobility

frostno98 · 01-16-14, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

You mean how old was Elway when Davis won him his first title?

You can go on and on about who won what? Terrell Davis was a great running back but teams couldn't always stack the box becuase Elawy would of made them pay. You talk like Elway was washed up when he got his rings, he was still the top 2-3 QB in the entire NFL his final two years with Farve and Steve Young being better.

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:14 PM

i dont think i've ever seen a qb more protected then brady. his o'lines have always been amazing. plus you cant touch brady now a days. i wonder if any qb has drawn more roughing the passer penalties then brady has

bobby heenan · 01-16-14, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by The Factor

look at the circumstances you dumb penetrate lmao. brady has a genius running the team. Cant penetrate with belichick. Elway never had a great receiver or a great defense. Brady would be trash with a bad o-line. Elway could carry any team because of his mobility

im not gonna argue whos better...obviously elway was more mobile and had a stronger arm....again....heres a guy that was a number 1 pick compared to brady......but the myth that brady has played with these "great offensive lines" his whole career is garbage......hes played with some pretty crappy ones over the year as far as talent......part of what makes brady good is his footwork....his ability to feel a rush and move the pocket a little

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:16 PM

Not arguing that at all Frost, he sure was when he won, doesn't mean at the end of their careers that he stacks up anywhere near Brady.

Factor here continuing his 'maybes' 'ifs' and 'perhaps' arguments instead of using facts, which he has been asked 3 times now to provide. Guy thinks his opinions are facts, I hate seeing a grown man struggle with basic english.

frostno98 · 01-16-14, 04:19 PM

My knock on Montana is, Bill Walsh is easily one of the top 5 head coach to ever coached the NFL and having Jerry Rice the greastest reciever to ever play this game. While Brady has Billicheat, the greast coach ever. What Elway did is remarkable, short of amazing considering what he had most of his career. Elway was a winner.

darkhat · 01-16-14, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by The Factor

you're out of your penetrating mind. Matt cassel won 11 games when brady went down or did you forget that already.

brady went 16-0 with that team

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

You can go on and on about who won what? Terrell Davis was a great running back but teams couldn't always stack the box becuase Elawy would of made them pay. You talk like Elway was washed up when he got his rings, he was still the top 2-3 QB in the entire NFL his final two years with Farve and Steve Young being better.

favre was amazing in that sb loss to the broncos. go look at the replay on his td pass to freeman. what an arm

RonPaul2008 · 01-16-14, 04:20 PM

Yes, Brady's career is a lot more impressive then Elway. I rank Brady in the top 2 QB's ever along with Joe Montana. Third, in my book, is Steve Young (possibly higher if he played longer). Anyone naming Favre in a best QB's ever list is nuts.

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by darkhat

brady went 16-0 with that team

how many points did he put up in the sb? Did he lose twice to Eli as the favorite?

bobby heenan · 01-16-14, 04:23 PM

LT	Matt Light	26	3	16		New England Patriots / 2nd / 48th pick / 2001
LG	Joe Andruzzi	29	6	16
C	Dan Koppen	25	1	16	1 fumble recovered	New England Patriots / 5th / 164th pick / 2003
RG	Steve Neal	28	2	14
RT	Brandon Gorin	26	1	10		San Diego Chargers / 7th / 201st pick / 2001

his 2004 offensive line

2003

LT	Matt Light	25	2	16		New England Patriots / 2nd / 48th pick / 2001
LG	Damien Woody	26	4	14	1 fumble recovered	New England Patriots / 1st / 17th pick / 1999
C	Dan Koppen	24	Rook	15	1 fumble recovered	New England Patriots / 5th / 164th pick / 2003
RG	Joe Andruzzi	28	5	16	1 fumble recovered

2001

LT	Matt Light	23	Rook	12		New England Patriots / 2nd / 48th pick / 2001
LG	Mike Compton	31	8	16		Detroit Lions / 3rd / 68th pick / 1993
C	Damien Woody	24	2	15	1 fumble recovered	New England Patriots / 1st / 17th pick / 1999
RG	Joe Andruzzi	26	3	16	1 fumble recovered
RT	Greg Randall	23	1	16		New England Patriots / 4th / 127th pick / 2000

2007

LT	Matt Light*+	29	6	16	New England Patriots / 2nd / 48th pick / 2001
LG	Logan Mankins*	25	2	16	New England Patriots / 1st / 32nd pick / 2005
C	Dan Koppen*	28	4	15	New England Patriots / 5th / 164th pick / 2003
RG	Steve Neal	31	5	8
RT	Nick Kaczur	28	2	15	New England Patriots / 3rd / 100th pick / 2005

matt light...was mainstay...he was good...not great....other than that....they basically filled a line with garbage...undrafted free agents...late round picks......then they added mankins....right now his current line is probably one of the most talented hes had(although volmer is out).....brady has helped make these guys look good....its just a bunch of garbage that has been coached up well to the point that they are adequate enough

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

Not arguing that at all Frost, he sure was when he won, doesn't mean at the end of their careers that he stacks up anywhere near Brady.

Factor here continuing his 'maybes' 'ifs' and 'perhaps' arguments instead of using facts, which he has been asked 3 times now to provide. Guy thinks his opinions are facts, I hate seeing a grown man struggle with basic english.

Elway took 3 garbage teams to the SB! Thats all the proof I need

. He did it 3 times. Lebron did it once

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:26 PM

bobby why dont you try using your eyes. Brady has always had tons of time to throw the ball. I dont need names like i really know every linesmans name

Big Bear · 01-16-14, 04:27 PM

I would have to give the edge to Elway b/c of his mobility.

darkhat · 01-16-14, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by The Factor

how many points did he put up in the sb? Did he lose twice to Eli as the favorite?

How many did cassel?

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by greenhippo

Not arguing that at all Frost, he sure was when he won, doesn't mean at the end of their careers that he stacks up anywhere near Brady.

Factor here continuing his 'maybes' 'ifs' and 'perhaps' arguments instead of using facts, which he has been asked 3 times now to provide. Guy thinks his opinions are facts, I hate seeing a grown man struggle with basic english.

this idiot asks for facts likes there's really an answer to who is better. Its all opinion. by your reasoning Aikman is better than brady and that's a fact lol

bobby heenan · 01-16-14, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by The Factor

bobby why dont you try using your eyes. Brady has always had tons of time to throw the ball. I dont need names like i really know every linesmans name

i do use my eyes...ive seen every snap of his career.....hes been playing with alot of late round picks and undrafted guys...hell steven neal didnt even play college football lol....a bunch of garbage....brady has great footwork and awareness....it has made his line look better than it is at times

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by darkhat

How many did cassel?

you obviously dont know whats going on. Is brady great YES! is he way better than Elway and Peyton? HELLL NOOOO. i would take both of them ahead of brady

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:32 PM

Why isn't Factor using reality to base his argument? Why is he continually struggling with the most basic of English? Someone get this kid a tutor to help him sound out the words and do the research for him since he can't do it himself. Help this kid.

darkhat · 01-16-14, 04:32 PM

Factor, please take s break from sbr for the night

It's clear your face is bright red and your pulse is off the charts. I don't know your medical history, but it's not healthy for you too put so much stress on your heart. Please go out for a drink and take it easy. ..maybe jerk off to some porn or meet a girl on backpage.

We are worried about you

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by bobby heenan

i do use my eyes...ive seen every snap of his career.....hes been playing with alot of late round picks and undrafted guys...hell steven neal didnt even play college football lol....a bunch of garbage....brady has great footwork and awareness....it has made his line look better than it is at times

i know brady is great, of course, but not way better than manning and elway. that's insane. Rodgers is a better QB than brady is.

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by darkhat

Factor, please take s break from sbr for the night

It's clear your face is bright red and your pulse is off the charts. I don't know your medical history, but it's not healthy for you too put so much stress on your heart. Please go out for a drink and take it easy. ..maybe jerk off to some porn or meet a girl on backpage.

We are worried about you

i get laid. I not a lame putting bitches as my picture avatar. That's for dudes who dont get any

greenhippo · 01-16-14, 04:36 PM

Brady must have fukked this guy's one and only girlfriend then came on his mom's face. His intense hatred knows no bounds.

The Factor · 01-16-14, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by darkhat

Factor, please take s break from sbr for the night

It's clear your face is bright red and your pulse is off the charts. I don't know your medical history, but it's not healthy for you too put so much stress on your heart. Please go out for a drink and take it easy. ..maybe jerk off to some porn or meet a girl on backpage.

We are worried about you

i have 80 post you have 5k who needs to take a break from the sbr?? lmao