Philip Rivers was the 2nd best QB in the NFL in 2013

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  • C-Gold
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-04-10
    • 6808

    #1
    Philip Rivers was the 2nd best QB in the NFL in 2013
    Peyton Manning was the best QB in the NFL and #2 wasn't Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees. It was a guy that after last year some people thought wasn't even in the top 10 anymore after spending the better part of the last decade in the top 5 or so.

    I have watched a number of Charger games this year and Rivers has been phenomenal. He was over 70% completion percentage for much of the year and he wasn't a dink or dunk kind of guy, he threw tons of mid range passes and his 8.2 yards per comp is .1 behind Peyton Manning and I promise you it wasn't all rac yards and dinking and dunking.

    32 TD
    11 INT
    4478 yards
    105.5 QB rating

    3rd best QB rating
    4th most TD passes
    5th most passing yards
    Low INT total for a passing QB who threw down field this year.

    Rivers is a leader. He went into Denver and won. He went into KC and won. He went into Cincy and won in the playoffs.

    He has such leadership and command of the offense. He can call audibles, he can be part of the game planning. He can exploit weaknesses and he throws a good mid range and deep ball. Some of those passes in the Cincinnati, KC and Denver games were so accurate.

    It is amazing what an improved O-Line and better coaching did this year with McCoy and Whisenhunt. Rivers had an amazing year and he was the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

    I have been highly highly impressed with his play, his leadership and command of the offense this year. He was spectacular.
  • NavsPicks
    SBR MVP
    • 10-16-12
    • 3344

    #2
    Lol I can name 3 qbs who outplayed rivers in the 2013 reg season...

    Dalton
    Alex smith
    Newton

    But thanks for making a fool out of yourself
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    • C-Gold
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-04-10
      • 6808

      #3
      Originally posted by NavsPicks
      Lol I can name 3 qbs who outplayed rivers in the 2013 reg season...

      Dalton
      Alex smith
      Newton

      But thanks for making a fool out of yourself
      Dalton threw 20 picks and completed 61% of his passes and that was with AJ Green.

      Alex Smith 60% completions, only 23 TD passes and 6.5 yards per comp because he was a dink and dunk game manager.

      Newton 61% and he only passes for 211 yards per game. Newton also took all sorts of unnecessary sacks. 43 sacks behind that offensive line is pitiful. He has awful pocket awareness.

      Those guys weren't anywhere near Rivers level and maybe not even top 10 QBs this year.
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      • ChalkyDog
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-02-11
        • 9598

        #4
        Ken Wisenhunt.

        If that guy ends up in either Detroit or Dallas, good things will happen for those teams.
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        • C-Gold
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-04-10
          • 6808

          #5
          Originally posted by ChalkyDog
          Ken Wisenhunt.

          If that guy ends up in either Detroit or Dallas, good things will happen for those teams.
          The Steelers should have hired Whisenhunt over Tomlin. There is a 0.00% chance Tomlin could have taken the Arizona Cardinals to the super bowl like Whisenhunt did. He will be a successful head coach again.
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #6
            Originally posted by NavsPicks
            Lol I can name 3 qbs who outplayed rivers in the 2013 reg season...

            Dalton
            Alex smith
            Newton

            But thanks for making a fool out of yourself

            get a clue
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #7
              whats funny is that people dont think that whisenhunt will find a way to exploit that awful broncos defense.
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              • C-Gold
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-04-10
                • 6808

                #8
                I like DJ Fluker on the right side. He brings a lot of toughness.

                Isn't it amazing how San Diego, Dallas, Phila, and Chicago all successfully rebuilt their offensive lines? They were all awful last year and they really improved. Chicago drafted Kyle Long, brought in another rookie on the right side, and brought in Bushrod. Dallas drafted a center. Phila drafted a RT and Mathis and the C really played well. SD drafted Fluker who is a monster.
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                • lakerboy
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-02-09
                  • 94379

                  #9
                  denver will not get any pressure. rivers will make that crowd go quiet and do what he wants.
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                  • NavsPicks
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-16-12
                    • 3344

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                    get a clue
                    Lol coming from u? If the only two ppl that disagree with me are lakerboy and ccgold.. I must be right.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Rivers started well and is ending well, this guy always was a big time QB.
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                      • antifoil
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-11-09
                        • 3993

                        #12
                        jj needs to make a video wearing a bolo tie coaching up philip rivers.
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                        • Mitchell88
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-16-12
                          • 4334

                          #13
                          will Rivers make the HOF with his stats alone? or does he have to win the big one to make it? thoughts?
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                          • Vinnie Paz
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-27-12
                            • 12177

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mitchell88
                            will Rivers make the HOF with his stats alone? or does he have to win the big one to make it? thoughts?
                            no hes not a hofer.
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                            • InTheDrink
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-23-09
                              • 23983

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mitchell88
                              will Rivers make the HOF with his stats alone? or does he have to win the big one to make it? thoughts?
                              32k yards? not even close yet without any other team accomplishments

                              32 also isnt that old for a qb these days though so he could get there with a few more years comparable to this one
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                              • C-Gold
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-04-10
                                • 6808

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                no hes not a hofer.
                                If Rivers can play 5 to 7 more years like this he has a shot.

                                Right now he probably Rivals Mcnabb and that's a NO HOF although there will be pressure to put Mcnabb in because he is a black QB and ESPN will of course push for him.
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                                • slacker00
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-06-05
                                  • 12262

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by C-Gold
                                  I like DJ Fluker on the right side. He brings a lot of toughness.

                                  Isn't it amazing how San Diego, Dallas, Phila, and Chicago all successfully rebuilt their offensive lines? They were all awful last year and they really improved. Chicago drafted Kyle Long, brought in another rookie on the right side, and brought in Bushrod. Dallas drafted a center. Phila drafted a RT and Mathis and the C really played well. SD drafted Fluker who is a monster.
                                  CHI's transformation was amazing, but PHI had a great line already, DAL has been building for a few years now.
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                                  • Mitchell88
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-16-12
                                    • 4334

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                    32k yards? not even close yet without any other team accomplishments

                                    32 also isnt that old for a qb these days though so he could get there with a few more years comparable to this one
                                    I agree that he is not there yet. They were debating it on Boston talk radio today on host said that he is with a super bowl win the other host said that he has a long way to go even if he did win the bowl this year. just wanted to know what you guys thought
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                                    • C-Gold
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-04-10
                                      • 6808

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by slacker00
                                      CHI's transformation was amazing, but PHI had a great line already, DAL has been building for a few years now.
                                      That's not what the Vick apologists would say. Vick sucked so of course he had no line.
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                                      • dlunc3
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-31-09
                                        • 9129

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by C-Gold
                                        That's not what the Vick apologists would say. Vick sucked so of course he had no line.
                                        phillys entire line was out hurt last yr other then Mathis.. All 5 guys were healthy this yr
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                                        • C-Gold
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-04-10
                                          • 6808

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dlunc3
                                          phillys entire line was out hurt last yr other then Mathis.. All 5 guys were healthy this yr
                                          Always excuses for the ^&$@$). It has been nothing but excuses for more than a decade that the dog killer has been around.
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                                          • inTomWeTrust
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-20-13
                                            • 1763

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by C-Gold
                                            Peyton Manning was the best QB in the NFL and #2 wasn't Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Drew Brees. It was a guy that after last year some people thought wasn't even in the top 10 anymore after spending the better part of the last decade in the top 5 or so.

                                            I have watched a number of Charger games this year and Rivers has been phenomenal. He was over 70% completion percentage for much of the year and he wasn't a dink or dunk kind of guy, he threw tons of mid range passes and his 8.2 yards per comp is .1 behind Peyton Manning and I promise you it wasn't all rac yards and dinking and dunking.

                                            32 TD
                                            11 INT
                                            4478 yards
                                            105.5 QB rating

                                            3rd best QB rating
                                            4th most TD passes
                                            5th most passing yards
                                            Low INT total for a passing QB who threw down field this year.

                                            Rivers is a leader. He went into Denver and won. He went into KC and won. He went into Cincy and won in the playoffs.

                                            He has such leadership and command of the offense. He can call audibles, he can be part of the game planning. He can exploit weaknesses and he throws a good mid range and deep ball. Some of those passes in the Cincinnati, KC and Denver games were so accurate.

                                            It is amazing what an improved O-Line and better coaching did this year with McCoy and Whisenhunt. Rivers had an amazing year and he was the 2nd best QB in the NFL.

                                            I have been highly highly impressed with his play, his leadership and command of the offense this year. He was spectacular.

                                            And exactly how is he better than Andrew Luck??? They won in SD against them because they kept luck off the feild...


                                            TELL ME how those wins are more impressive than Luck vs seahwaks cheifs twice BRONCOS etc. and SF Just please stop man....


                                            I like rivers but hes cocky and rubs teammates the wrong way.. i love his passion but its not pro-active all the time he throws fits like a little girl and points the finger alot.. is he a leader? yes but how is it better than luck?

                                            the tooter does it again
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                                            • inTomWeTrust
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-20-13
                                              • 1763

                                              #23
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                                              • inTomWeTrust
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-20-13
                                                • 1763

                                                #24
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                                                • slacker00
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-06-05
                                                  • 12262

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by C-Gold
                                                  That's not what the Vick apologists would say. Vick sucked so of course he had no line.
                                                  What does Vick have to do with this discussion? If anything, the O-line injuries effected Foles more than Vick.
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                                                  • Roy Halladay
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-27-10
                                                    • 1074

                                                    #26
                                                    Good thread. I agree. Amazing how he seems to push the football instead of throwing it. yet he's highly effective.
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                                                    • Roy Halladay
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-27-10
                                                      • 1074

                                                      #27
                                                      As for Vick, he is what he is. He's an amazing athlete, but an average quarterback. He's just too damn small to play the way he he does as he can not sustain taking hits like Scam Newton can.
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                                                      • C-Gold
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-04-10
                                                        • 6808

                                                        #28
                                                        Rivers vs Luck who I like by the way

                                                        Yards
                                                        Rivers 4478
                                                        Luck 3822

                                                        TD passes
                                                        Rivers 32
                                                        Luck 23

                                                        INT
                                                        Rivers 11
                                                        Luck 9

                                                        QB Rating
                                                        Rivers 105.5
                                                        Luck 87.0

                                                        Sacks
                                                        Rivers 32
                                                        Luck 30

                                                        Completion percentage
                                                        Rivers 69.5%
                                                        Luck 60.2%

                                                        Look, I like Luck, I like him a lot. He is the best young QB by a mile, he is the most valuable player going forward in the NFL right now as far as if everybody got thrown into a pot and redrafted dynasty style - Luck would certainly be the #1 pick. With that being said it is hard to argue that Luck had a better year than Rivers.

                                                        Rivers has more TDs, more yards, about the same INTs and Rivers completion percentage was 10% higher. His efficiency and rating is higher. He is a leader, he audibles, he changes plays and played a nearly flawless year and was the 2nd best QB in the league this year.
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                                                        • inTomWeTrust
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-20-13
                                                          • 1763

                                                          #29
                                                          I dont disagree with that in terms of stats this year.. im talking BIG GAMES and leadership and dealing with pressure specifically
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                                                          • C-Gold
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-04-10
                                                            • 6808

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by inTomWeTrust
                                                            I dont disagree with that in terms of stats this year.. im talking BIG GAMES and leadership and dealing with pressure specifically
                                                            I said Philip Rivers was the 2nd best QB in the NFL this year and he was.

                                                            If Peyton Manning didn't play this year then Rivers was the best QB in the NFL this year.
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                                                            • inTomWeTrust
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-20-13
                                                              • 1763

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by C-Gold
                                                              I said Philip Rivers was the 2nd best QB in the NFL this year and he was.

                                                              If Peyton Manning didn't play this year then Rivers was the best QB in the NFL this year.
                                                              I agree with that bud.. you're right.
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                                                              • Luckycharms2012
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-07-12
                                                                • 2422

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by inTomWeTrust
                                                                I agree with that bud.. you're right.

                                                                Tom you owe me for that RickyRoma BS, here's your chance to make good. Whats the play for the Saints/Seahawk game.
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                                                                • C-Gold
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-04-10
                                                                  • 6808

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by inTomWeTrust
                                                                  I agree with that bud.. you're right.
                                                                  and I like Luck a lot for the future. Always have. ESPN finally caught on after constantly pumping that mud rat RG3-13 for two years.
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