When RUSSELL WILSON wins the SUPERBOWL this year he will be on Manning/Brady level.

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  • romanowski
    SBR Hustler
    • 06-14-06
    • 85

    #106
    didnt read thread but seattle has a short window, as soon as wilson needs to be resigned the team will lose a lot of their other pieces
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    • slacker00
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      • 10-06-05
      • 12262

      #107
      Originally posted by romanowski
      didnt read thread but seattle has a short window, as soon as wilson needs to be resigned the team will lose a lot of their other pieces
      I agree. People underestimate how much these big contract QBs suck from the salary cap and deplete the team.
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      • crustyme
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        • 09-29-10
        • 16896

        #108
        heavy rain and 25-35mph winds forecasted. favors seattles rushing attack.

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        • Hot Jerry
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-16-13
          • 5545

          #109
          No QB that is presently playing is on " PROFESOR " BRADY'S LEVEL - end of story !! He is he BEST QB last 15 or so years !!
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          • slacker00
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-06-05
            • 12262

            #110
            Originally posted by crustyme
            heavy rain and 25-35mph winds forecasted. favors seattles rushing attack.

            Brees was the only hope for the Saints. This one might get ugly.
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #111
              Originally posted by slacker00
              Brees was the only hope for the Saints. This one might get ugly.

              heavy rain and winds favor no one. fumbles will be a issue. will seattle get every bounce like last time?
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              • slacker00
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                • 10-06-05
                • 12262

                #112
                Originally posted by lakerboy
                heavy rain and winds favor no one. fumbles will be a issue. will seattle get every bounce like last time?
                Bad weather favors defense. Seattle has a better defense. Bad weather negates passing, Brees > RW.
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                • gummo
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                  • 09-04-06
                  • 6297

                  #113
                  Trent Dilfer level
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                  • lakerboy
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                    • 04-02-09
                    • 94379

                    #114
                    Originally posted by slacker00
                    Bad weather favors defense. Seattle has a better defense. Bad weather negates passing, Brees > RW.

                    cool i did not know that. go and look at the top 10 bad weather games of all time and tell me who had the better defense going in? then tell me who won.

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                    • LeahMichele
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                      • 12-30-11
                      • 857

                      #115
                      Seahawks are going beat the Broncos too
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                      • BigdaddyQH
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                        • 07-13-09
                        • 19530

                        #116
                        Originally posted by LeahMichele
                        The Seahawaks are going to win the superbowl this year. Period. No suspense. Done deal. When they do, Russell Wilson will be considered a top elite QB on the level of Manning and Brady. All it takes is 1 superbowl ring to make people look. Rodgers, Brees, and Manning only have 1 ring yet they are considered top QB's. Wilson will have his first ring in his second season, faster than any of those guys got theirs. Wilson has won more games in his first 2 seasons that any QB ever and Wilson has 2 more games. He will likely have 25 reg season wins in first 2 years, shattering big bens record - of 22. he will be the only QB to have perfect record at home in his first 2 years - he will have done it twice when no other QB even did it once. He has one of the highest passer ratings of asecond year QB. He rarely turns the ball over. He has numerous comeback wins. He was down 20-3 and won. he was also down 21-0 and won and 24-7 and won. So even when his D gives up points he just brings the team back. I will put Wilson up against Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, any of them and everyone will see it when he wins the ring this year.
                        A Typical post by a Typical Homer. Wilson will NEVER come close to being the QB that Manning or Brady are. Grow up.
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                        • BigdaddyQH
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                          • 07-13-09
                          • 19530

                          #117
                          I suggest that you clowns look at a legitimate weather report before posting that B.S. Try a high of 37 degrees with only a 30% chance of rain. You can stop the B.S. any time now Crusty.
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                          • SparJMU
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-18-10
                            • 1648

                            #118
                            Originally posted by LeahMichele
                            The Seahawaks are going to win the superbowl this year. Period. No suspense. Done deal. When they do, Russell Wilson will be considered a top elite QB on the level of Manning and Brady. All it takes is 1 superbowl ring to make people look. Rodgers, Brees, and Manning only have 1 ring yet they are considered top QB's. Wilson will have his first ring in his second season, faster than any of those guys got theirs. Wilson has won more games in his first 2 seasons that any QB ever and Wilson has 2 more games. He will likely have 25 reg season wins in first 2 years, shattering big bens record - of 22. he will be the only QB to have perfect record at home in his first 2 years - he will have done it twice when no other QB even did it once. He has one of the highest passer ratings of asecond year QB. He rarely turns the ball over. He has numerous comeback wins. He was down 20-3 and won. he was also down 21-0 and won and 24-7 and won. So even when his D gives up points he just brings the team back. I will put Wilson up against Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben, any of them and everyone will see it when he wins the ring this year.
                            This is absolutely absurd. Manning and Brady carry their teams on their backs. They are the center of everything offensively. I am an enormous Russell Wilson fan, but he is asked to do very little in that offense relative to someone like Manning or Brady. They are a running/defensive team, passing is secondary.
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                            • herts9
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                              • 11-17-10
                              • 112

                              #119
                              everybody's high!!!
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                              • gui_m_p
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                                • 09-18-13
                                • 123

                                #120
                                Originally posted by LeahMichele
                                What has Brees done other than win a SB ?
                                Just a record of 4 straight seasons with +4k passing yards.
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                                • gui_m_p
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                                  • 09-18-13
                                  • 123

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                  Big Pats/Boston guy. But the debate shouldn`t be between any of the old guys (PM,TB,BR) who are all HOF.

                                  The real ? is who do you start a franchise with now?

                                  For me its LUCK , then I do like Wilson a lot. with Cam a distant 3rd.Forget RGIII.
                                  Exactly. Imagine Luck were on Hawks and Wilson on Colts. Don't have to say what it would be.
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                                  • Fred The Hammer
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                                    • 08-13-13
                                    • 11590

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                    heavy rain and winds favor no one. fumbles will be a issue. will seattle get every bounce like last time?
                                    Wilson with a ring = Manning is too stupid to comment on but this one is!! Manning can only throw the ball about 45 yards in the air in good weather so strong winds + hawks secondary = a UFC cage match for Denver's receivers. Seattle literally couldn't lose with high winds on Sunday!!
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                                    • govolz
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                                      • 03-26-12
                                      • 952

                                      #123
                                      fukk it might as well put him on these guys level too

                                      doug wiliams
                                      jeff hosteler
                                      brad johnson
                                      Mark Rypien

                                      yeah youve never heard of them... they all won superbowls lol

                                      good as peyton... ur an idiot
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                                      • packerd_00
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                                        • 05-22-13
                                        • 17822

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by govolz
                                        fukk it might as well put him on these guys level too

                                        doug wiliams
                                        jeff hosteler
                                        brad johnson
                                        Mark Rypien

                                        yeah youve never heard of them... they all won superbowls lol

                                        good as peyton... ur an idiot
                                        I remember Mark Rypien,first Canadian born QB to win a SB.
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                                        • PAULYPOKER
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                                          • 12-06-08
                                          • 36581

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by LeahMichele
                                          When RUSSELL WILSON wins the SUPERBOWL this year he will be on Manning/Brady level.
                                          ....
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                                          • LeahMichele
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                                            • 12-30-11
                                            • 857

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Fred The Hammer
                                            Wilson with a ring = Manning is too stupid to comment on but this one is!! Manning can only throw the ball about 45 yards in the air in good weather so strong winds + hawks secondary = a UFC cage match for Denver's receivers. Seattle literally couldn't lose with high winds on Sunday!!
                                            That's right fred, not only will Wilson get the superbowl ring like I said he would back in September, but he is going to do it by beating that overrated choker been on so many great teams, but only won 1 SB joke manning. Guy has been on so many great teams yet has less SB wins than his brother, yeah manning is the greatest. pull his rooster out ur mouths long enough to realize that he is one of the biggest chokers ever, how many times did he go into playoffs as #1 seed only to get beat ? Many, let me tell you. All those great teams he QB'd and all he has is 1 ring. Yeah ur right Wilson isn't on his level, Wilson is above his level.
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                                            • LeahMichele
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                                              • 12-30-11
                                              • 857

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by govolz
                                              fukk it might as well put him on these guys level too

                                              doug wiliams
                                              jeff hosteler
                                              brad johnson
                                              Mark Rypien

                                              yeah youve never heard of them... they all won superbowls lol

                                              good as peyton... ur an idiot
                                              I give you 2 points for that. Being a vols fan I guess you have to love this manning guy, what with all the national championships he won for you. These other posters, I don't know maybe they just dream of sucking peyton off.
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
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                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 71662

                                                #128
                                                If Russell Wilson wins a ring, he's Black Trent Dilfer. Blilfer. Not even a comparison to Brady and Manning. The thought is stupid in itself.
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                                                • GunShard
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                                                  • 03-05-10
                                                  • 10032

                                                  #129
                                                  Joe Flacco won the Super Bowl.
                                                  No one is putting him up there with the elite QBs.
                                                  Wilson in the same position.
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                                                  • Mister X
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                                                    • 01-12-14
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                                                    #130
                                                    This is the stupidest thread title I've ever seen. I really hope for the sake of the thread starter that's it's a joke.
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                                                    • ThaTopMoron
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by LeahMichele
                                                      That's right fred, not only will Wilson get the superbowl ring like I said he would back in September, but he is going to do it by beating that overrated choker been on so many great teams, but only won 1 SB joke manning. Guy has been on so many great teams yet has less SB wins than his brother, yeah manning is the greatest. pull his rooster out ur mouths long enough to realize that he is one of the biggest chokers ever, how many times did he go into playoffs as #1 seed only to get beat ? Many, let me tell you. All those great teams he QB'd and all he has is 1 ring. Yeah ur right Wilson isn't on his level, Wilson is above his level.
                                                      this turd is an idiot. Manning has never to this day had a defense as solid as what Wilson has had for his two lil shitty years in the league so far. you're gonna compare mostly shitty predictable cover 2 schemes vs the Seahawks of 2012 & 2013 lol... defense is the KEY

                                                      this is what happens in the playoffs you turd.

                                                      defense closes out game = win = Seahawks 2013 / defense gives up lead late = lose = Seahawks 2012

                                                      I wonder if you could take all the great Patriots/Steelers/Ravens/Chargers teams from throughout the 2000s in the AFC and matched them up with this lil Seahawk team in playoff games how many times the Seahawks would come away with victories 2 or 3 times in a row to be in a Super Bowl

                                                      now that's a tough road to a Super Bowl

                                                      all your team did was beat a horrible road team in the Saints and get barely get past a 49'er team that was playing its 4th consecutive road game. real impressive

                                                      the Seahawks defense is the only factor that is going to keep Seattle in the game. Wilson is just along for the ride and hoping he can come out ahead
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                                                      • bucket2233
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                                                        • 03-25-13
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                                                        #132
                                                        I have been a lurker for quite some time, and couldn't wait to activate my account to post on this thread. So, Hi all.

                                                        I am not going to sit here and say that Russell Wilson will be on Peyton Manning or Tom Brady's level after a win at the Superbowl, but could it not be possible that it may be his first step in that direction?

                                                        I believe there is something that a lot of the "Russell Wilson is no more than a game manager" folks have either ignored or have never looked a little deeper to notice. The fact is that in the two years that he has been in the league, there have only been a handful of times where he has even had the opportunity to be more than a game manager! He has not been asked to do anything more than hand the ball off a bunch of times (a lot of times because they have the lead already) and make the majority of his passes on 3rd and long. It is very hard to get in a rhythm or stand out and be able to throw for 300+ yards and 3+ TDs when Pete Carroll doesn't open up the offense and Marshawn Lynch is carrying the ball 30 times per game.

                                                        That being said, in the games that Wilson has been actually let loose to play his game and sling it around, he has more than answered the call with poise, smart decision making, and strong, accurate throws. Think back to last years playoffs when the Seahawks fell behind 20-0 going into halftime. They had no choice but to turn him loose, and that should have been the game where Russell earned his stripes and turned into a household name, except the defense couldn't stop the Falcons from scoring a FG in the final seconds of the game. He almost singlehandedly brought the team back in the 2nd half of that game. Other games that he has had the same opportunity, he has shown that he may already be a top 10 QB in this league. If you don't think so, maybe it's time to take a closer look... Other games off the top of my head where he has been let loose are last year vs. SF (until HT in the blowout), this year vs. Atl and New Orleans (during reg season). I also think of the perfectly thrown 4th and 7 touchdown pass vs. SF during NFC championship game a couple weeks back when they needed him to make a play, and the momentum of the game completely shifted. That pass could not be made by a "game manager".

                                                        At least this is what I have seen in the games that I have watched. I believe that he can go up against Peyton Manning in a shootout if it turns into that. Does that mean they come out on top? No. And he does not have the weapons that Peyton has either. But I think he's more than capable of keeping his team in the game if it comes to that. I also believe that Sunday maybe be his chance to take that step into the upper echelon of QBs in the public eye. He is going to have to throw the ball, and I believe that he will and he will do it well. I think he surprises a lot of people on Sunday.

                                                        Prediction: Russell Wilson leads the Seahawks to a 28-24 victory and wins his first Superbowl.
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                                                        • bucket2233
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                                                          • 03-25-13
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                                                          #133
                                                          ^ Sorry for the novel

                                                          Once I started I couldn't stop... lol
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                                                          • 7secondsOrLess
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                                                            • 03-26-10
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                                                            #134
                                                            fuckin retarded
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                                                            • LeahMichele
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                                                              • 12-30-11
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by ThaTopMoron
                                                              this turd is an idiot. Manning has never to this day had a defense as solid as what Wilson has had for his two lil shitty years in the league so far. you're gonna compare mostly shitty predictable cover 2 schemes vs the Seahawks of 2012 & 2013 lol... defense is the KEY

                                                              this is what happens in the playoffs you turd.

                                                              defense closes out game = win = Seahawks 2013 / defense gives up lead late = lose = Seahawks 2012

                                                              I wonder if you could take all the great Patriots/Steelers/Ravens/Chargers teams from throughout the 2000s in the AFC and matched them up with this lil Seahawk team in playoff games how many times the Seahawks would come away with victories 2 or 3 times in a row to be in a Super Bowl

                                                              now that's a tough road to a Super Bowl

                                                              all your team did was beat a horrible road team in the Saints and get barely get past a 49'er team that was playing its 4th consecutive road game. real impressive

                                                              the Seahawks defense is the only factor that is going to keep Seattle in the game. Wilson is just along for the ride and hoping he can come out ahead
                                                              topmoron sorry that you have diarrhea. I had it last week too, some bad food I guess. it sucks. I agree with you on that. hey the seahawks defense is good but it is not as good as they say. Wilson is the leader of the team, he does what he has to do. he doesn't try to set all the personal records like Manning does. That makes him a leader, he isn't all about himself. Going back to the playoffs last year, in his last 20 games, the Seahawks have trailed going into the 4th quarter 7 times -- yes 7 times -- so much for that perfect defense. yes they have gone into the 4th quarter trailing - 7 times, guess what - Wilson ended up taking the lead --- EVERY SINGLE GAME --- now in some of those games, the perfect defense gave up another score to lose - but Wilson got them the lead after trailing in the 4th quarter - EVERY SINGLE GAME. Damn if Manning has 1 4th quarter comeback its headline news for a month. In the playoffs last year the Hawks trailed Redskins 14-0, and came back to win, they trailed Falcons 20-0 at half ( perfect D gave up 20 in first half ) - Wilson had them up 28-27 before the perfect D gave up a score with Falcons only having a few seconds, they trailed Texan Jokes 20-3 and Wilson brought them back, they trailed Buccaneers 20-0 in first half ( great job perfect D )-- Wilson brought them back. They trailed 49ers in the 4th quarters last two games, and Wilson got them the lead both games. Defense is good but stop kidding yourself, Wilson isn't sitting on the sideline eating bob bons while the defense holds everyone to 0 .
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                                                              • LeahMichele
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                                                                • 12-30-11
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                                                                #136
                                                                This season Wilson vs Brady, Wilson had more TD passes, fewer INT's, higher pass completion % and A much much higher passer rating. Just because he isn't one of the two NFL wonderboys yet doesn't mean he isn't on their level. I think you guys watch ESPN too much. Brady rating 87, Wilson rating 101.
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                                                                • Kermit
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Wilson mostly only passes when the situation is right and doesn't force anything.

                                                                  I think any average QB could take that current team to the Superbowl.
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                                                                  • LeahMichele
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                                                                    • 12-30-11
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                    Wilson mostly only passes when the situation is right and doesn't force anything.

                                                                    I think any average QB could take that current team to the Superbowl.
                                                                    I think that is what a QB sould do instead of padding personal records like Manning. I guess he has to have something to look at after losing in the playoffs every year. The second part - hell no.
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                                                                    • Kermit
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Wilson only does what he does because that is all that is required from him. He is not the bulk of the offense like those elite quarterbacks are. Their teams are built around them.

                                                                      Alex Smith put up nearly the same numbers as Wilson did this year on a team that only had 2 wins last year. He sure in the Hell is not on the same level as Manning or Brady either.

                                                                      And If Brady's teammates were not hurt all year(and in jail), he probably would have passed for 5,000 yards and had 30+ TD's. I hate Brady with a passion, but the guy made shit happen this year with almost nothing. I still don't know how he did it. No way in Hell Wilson could have done that.
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                                                                      • slacker00
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                                                                        • 10-06-05
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by GunShard
                                                                        Joe Flacco won the Super Bowl.
                                                                        No one is putting him up there with the elite QBs.
                                                                        Wilson in the same position.
                                                                        Tell that to Ravens management and his $120 million contract.

                                                                        That's the problem with these huge QB contracts, it hamstrings the entire team. None of these big contract QB teams have a #1 D because they can't afford it under the cap.

                                                                        Compare to Russell Wilson's 4 year $3 million contract. Plenty of cap room to keep all of their great players.
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