1st QB to be taken in the NFL draft?

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #36
    Lets face it nobody really knows who will be good in the pros

    Almost impossible to gauge via college
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82839

      #37
      Aaron Murray would be first one to get drafted. He adjusts very well to playing with unknown receivers win after week meaning it's the QB who is good and not the receivers who make the QB look good.

      He is the closed to Andrew Luck than any of the other QB's in college right now.
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      • SBR_John
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-12-05
        • 16471

        #38
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        Aaron Murray would be first one to get drafted. He adjusts very well to playing with unknown receivers win after week meaning it's the QB who is good and not the receivers who make the QB look good.

        He is the closed to Andrew Luck than any of the other QB's in college right now.
        Murray is the safest pick to be an NFL starter along with McCarron. Both have been college starters for what seems like the past decade.

        We will get a free shot contest to let everyone predict the first 2 or 3 QB's taken. Murray has fallen pretty hard lately but he was phenomenal in the almost win conference championship last year.

        I'll go
        Round 1
        1. Johnny Football
        2. Sean Mannion
        3. Bryce Petty
        Round 2
        4. AJ McCarron
        5. Marcus Mariota
        6. Zach Mettenberger
        7. Aaron Murray
        Round 3
        8. Teddy Bridgewater
        9. Derek Carr
        10. James Franklin
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        • Louisvillekid1
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-17-07
          • 52143

          #39
          Originally posted by SBR_John
          Murray is the safest pick to be an NFL starter along with McCarron. Both have been college starters for what seems like the past decade.

          We will get a free shot contest to let everyone predict the first 2 or 3 QB's taken. Murray has fallen pretty hard lately but he was phenomenal in the almost win conference championship last year.

          I'll go
          Round 1
          1. Johnny Football
          2. Sean Mannion
          3. Bryce Petty
          Round 2
          4. AJ McCarron
          5. Marcus Mariota
          6. Zach Mettenberger
          7. Aaron Murray
          Round 3
          8. Teddy Bridgewater
          9. Derek Carr
          10. James Franklin
          lol, Im Assuming you think Hundley will stay in school?

          Bryce Petty and Sean Mannion? They are Kiiff Kingsbury all over again, and will be an OC in College within 5 years.

          AJ is nothing more than Kellen Moore

          Mettenburger/Murray can ball

          Johnny of course can play

          MM I have no clue how to project

          Bridge water will be an NFL starter for the next 10 years

          Derek Carr very hard to project

          James Franklin no chance to be an NFL Starter
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82839

            #40
            Originally posted by SBR_John
            Murray is the safest pick to be an NFL starter along with McCarron. Both have been college starters for what seems like the past decade.

            We will get a free shot contest to let everyone predict the first 2 or 3 QB's taken. Murray has fallen pretty hard lately but he was phenomenal in the almost win conference championship last year.

            I'll go
            Round 1
            1. Johnny Football
            2. Sean Mannion
            3. Bryce Petty
            Round 2
            4. AJ McCarron
            5. Marcus Mariota
            6. Zach Mettenberger
            7. Aaron Murray
            Round 3
            8. Teddy Bridgewater
            9. Derek Carr
            10. James Franklin
            I don't understand how Murray has fallen off lately? Do you think scouts scout the polls or what the player does on the field? Scouts are actually impressed with what he can do without starting WR's and RB's. His stock is actually going up.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #41
              Bridgewater is okay but he's a typical black quarterback

              If he's lucky he'll go 8-8 in the NFL
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #42
                Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

                AJ is nothing more than Kellen Moore

                Major difference = AJ is 6' 4" , Moore couldnt see over his O line
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                • easyliving
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-25-12
                  • 8876

                  #43
                  teams that might take a qb in the first round:

                  jaguars
                  buccaneers
                  cardinals

                  however I don't think their is a clear favor among the QBs on who will be drafted first. Even on Manziel you can make the argument that he is not a first rounder. I think only 2 quarterbacks will be taken in the first round, but its still too early to project who those 2 will be
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                  • Rangers901
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-09-12
                    • 363

                    #44
                    Originally posted by konck
                    Johnny Football did nothing wrong today. He got hurt leaving the ball at the 2 first an goal the got only 3. He came back not 100% but went 6-6 on the first td drive then the Def cant stop anything left Johnny Football only 1.18 sec to go 65 yd he got them close and on 3rd and 18 he gained 8 but got horse collard and it wasnt called. Thats what cost him the game if you watched the game the legend of Johnny Football only got bigger
                    I'm so sick of JF nut licking, seriously it's old now. You know who my MVP is for the Aggies on offense?

                    Mike Evans.

                    How many times have you seen JF just toss up a jump ball into coverage and Mike Evans catches it simply because he's too big and strong for a college corner to cover. When JF throws for 350-400 yards, Evans has 250+ every time. I can't stress it enough that JF makes A LOT of stupid throws that would get you benched in the NFL because they would be INT's, but college corners simply can't match up with Mike Evans.
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                    • TPowell
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-21-08
                      • 18842

                      #45
                      do you idiots not follow the projections? Bridgewater has been the top QB for over 6 months now. It won't change
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82839

                        #46
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        do you idiots not follow the projections? Bridgewater has been the top QB for over 6 months now. It won't change
                        And NFL teams usually draft by "the projections".
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                        • ChalkyDog
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-02-11
                          • 9598

                          #47
                          It's all about where they land. I've seen some ballers lands in terrible situations, and some hamburgers flourish under a solid system.

                          If that much is the premise, you have to rank based on your specific system or go most talented.
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                          • MoneyLineDawg
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-01-09
                            • 13253

                            #48
                            Bridgewater is going top 3 barring anything crazy....And almost definitely 1st (Clowney could go there, Bridgewater 2)
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                            • TPowell
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-21-08
                              • 18842

                              #49
                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                              And NFL teams usually draft by "the projections".
                              When you're ranked as the best QB in the country and second best overall, chances are you'll be a 1st round pick at MINIMUM barring injury
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82839

                                #50
                                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                Bridgewater is going top 3 barring anything crazy....And almost definitely 1st (Clowney could go there, Bridgewater 2)
                                I'd take a bet right now with you for $100 even money that Bridgewater won't be #1 or #2 player taken in the NFL draft.
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                                • TPowell
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-21-08
                                  • 18842

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  I'd take a bet right now with you for $100 even money that Bridgewater won't be #1 or #2 player taken in the NFL draft.
                                  LOL, SBR money bet. Has to be +EV
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                                  • Vegas39
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-22-11
                                    • 30686

                                    #52
                                    Think Mariotta stays in school one more year
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                                    • MoneyLineDawg
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-01-09
                                      • 13253

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                      I'd take a bet right now with you for $100 even money that Bridgewater won't be #1 or #2 player taken in the NFL draft.
                                      Do a points bet? SBR Money bets
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                                      • Scorpion
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-04-05
                                        • 7797

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Nick Papageorgio
                                        Bridgewater, very obvious. I expect more coming from someone within the site.
                                        he looks dumb
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #55
                                          I'll bet 1k points Teddy goes in the top 5

                                          Give me 3/1 I'll bet 1k he goes #1
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82839

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Vegas39
                                            Think Mariotta stays in school one more year
                                            Kellen Clemens
                                            Joey Harrnigton
                                            Akili Smith
                                            Dennis Dixon

                                            Sound familiar?
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                                            • MoneyLineDawg
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 13253

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                              I'll bet 1k points Teddy goes in the top 5
                                              Yeah top 5 1k points even money....anyone in?
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                                              • Scorpion
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-04-05
                                                • 7797

                                                #58
                                                i would waste a pick on bridgewater in the 4h round, only if i had 3 picks in the 4th
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82839

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                  i would waste a pick on bridgewater in the 4h round, only if i had 3 picks in the 4th
                                                  And maybe use him as a WR for the NFL team.
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                                                  • SBR_John
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                    • 16471

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                    Yeah top 5 1k points even money....anyone in?
                                                    I'll take that that 1k bet. Terms are you transfer me 1k points in this thread before next Saturday and you have action.
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                                                    • crustyme
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-29-10
                                                      • 16896

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by TPowell
                                                      do you idiots not follow the projections? Bridgewater has been the top QB for over 6 months now. It won't change
                                                      so was geno.

                                                      what round did he get drafted again?
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                                                      • Fred The Hammer
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-13-13
                                                        • 11582

                                                        #62
                                                        1. The kid from Oregon State
                                                        2. Bridgewater
                                                        3. The kid from Florida State if he wants to come out.....#1 w/more experience
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                                                        • MoneyLineDawg
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-01-09
                                                          • 13253

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                          I'll take that that 1k bet. Terms are you transfer me 1k points in this thread before next Saturday and you have action.
                                                          I'll let Lkid take this one if he wants.....I would rather just have a bet with a different poster that would like to make the same bet on credit

                                                          I'll let you know though if I get a bunch of points from now till then because I like the bet for sure
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #64
                                                            It's too long to tie my points up for, who knows how many increases by then.

                                                            I'll do it on credit though
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                                                            • MoneyLineDawg
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-01-09
                                                              • 13253

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              It's too long to tie my points up for, who knows how many increases by then.

                                                              I'll do it on credit though
                                                              My thoughts as well, you can take the first offer since you came up with it
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                                                              • Gonz312
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-22-11
                                                                • 1467

                                                                #66
                                                                Johnny doesnt go before at least 5 qbs...way too many questions marks in areas pro teams look at such as decision making and durability. Homers are gonna hate it, but thats the facts. Exciting plays and throwing up prayers dont impress scouts as much as they impress the fans. Kid can throw and is accurate but so can these other top college qbs. And in the end, the majority of them will bust in the league.
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                                                                • DoYouNotGetIT
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-25-13
                                                                  • 529

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Gonz312
                                                                  Johnny doesnt go before at least 5 qbs...way too many questions marks in areas pro teams look at such as decision making and durability. Homers are gonna hate it, but thats the facts. Exciting plays and throwing up prayers dont impress scouts as much as they impress the fans. Kid can throw and is accurate but so can these other top college qbs. And in the end, the majority of them will bust in the league.
                                                                  Almost every updated mock draft I have seen shows him being the 4th or 5th QB selected and a top 15 pick now.
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                                                                  • ttwarrior1
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 06-23-09
                                                                    • 28460

                                                                    #68
                                                                    bridgewater can't pass, overrated overhyped qb . Mariota should be top but

                                                                    no team that needs a qb can win unless they upgrade their o line
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                                                                    • suicidekings
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 03-23-09
                                                                      • 9962

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Aaron Murray will get drafted first, followed by Bridgewater. They're the most pro-ready, IMO.

                                                                      The problem with Mariota, Manziel, and Miller is that the NFL is already adapting quickly to the new generation of mobile QBs. Miller, in particular, will lose a TON of value moving from college to the pro level. The scrambling is not something he can rely on against the bigger, faster defenders. Just like RG3 needed to adapt to protect himself from taking hits, so will Miller have to make changes, however Miller's arm is not at the same level as others. He'll be a late round pick.

                                                                      Same deal for Manziel/Mariota in needing to protect themselves, however both of them have great arm strength, are smart decision-makers, and have a good work ethic. They'll be 2/3rd rounders. Manziel will also have to deal with the "he's too short" criticism (he's just under 6'0"), which will likely push him down a little bit.
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                                                                      • SBR_John
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 07-12-05
                                                                        • 16471

                                                                        #70
                                                                        We sure have a lot of varying opinions. SK if you just go on the prototypical NFL QB AND you need a starter from the pick then Murray is a solid and safe pick. No way he is the most talented QB of the bunch though. I have to disagree with you on Manziel. He is a Drew Bress type passer that will sell seats and can read through 4 options. Brees was a high 2nd round pick as I recall.
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