Its possible Ellsbury could command one of the biggest contracts since A -Rod

747planes · 10-16-13, 11:18 PM

any team that pays him more than 10 million a year without lots of conditions deserve to fail. but this is mlb and he will probably get 20 million a year.

No coincidences · 10-16-13, 11:18 PM

I know what I said earlier about position players and overpaying, but given what he could bring to the table compared to their needs, I go after him hard if I'm Detroit.

BennyBigNuts · 10-17-13, 05:08 AM

Mets are said to be making a huge push for him.
They love overpaying for guys who have career years (Bonilla, Jason Bay, Johan, Beltran).

jjgold · 10-17-13, 05:48 AM

Look who wins titles pitching not ballplayers

You could have AAA players and top-flight picthers you have a very good shot to advance very deep into the playoffs

Ratpack · 10-17-13, 05:54 AM

hes another carl crawford type a 5 tool player he will probably get what crawford got

BennyBigNuts · 10-17-13, 06:03 AM

Originally posted by Ratpack

hes another carl crawford type a 5 tool player he will probably get what crawford got

Hate comparing him to crawford because of how overrated I always thought he was. But they are similar to when Crawford was in his prime.
I think Elsbury stays solid and consistent with his numbers, although his injuries/health are gonna be a risk.
He is also a great leader in that clubhouse.

broadway6 · 10-17-13, 06:08 AM

A rods contract worked out well.

A rods contract was horrible.

Take a lap and rethink this.

BennyBigNuts · 10-17-13, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by broadway6

A rods contract worked out well.

A rods contract was horrible.

Take a lap and rethink this.

Nah, not even close.

He will sign a 5 year, 90 mill range contract. Being injury prone keeps him from anything longer or more than this.

Big Bear · 10-17-13, 06:21 AM

he's injury prone. 2 year deal max

jjgold · 10-17-13, 06:24 AM

No non pitcher is worth big money period

Big Bear · 10-17-13, 06:25 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

No non pitcher is worth big money period

false.

Barry Bonds was.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by Big Bear

he's injury prone. 2 year deal max

LOL

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by BennyBigNuts

Nah, not even close.

He will sign a 5 year, 90 mill range contract. Being injury prone keeps him from anything longer or more than this.

5 years for 120.

you'll see. scouts and GM think this guy is the next coming.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by BennyBigNuts

Mets are said to be making a huge push for him.
They love overpaying for guys who have career years (Bonilla, Jason Bay, Johan, Beltran).

Sandy Alderson comes from under Billy Beane. he will never break the bank and payroll for one player.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 07:20 AM

just look at Jose Reyes...he got 6 years 106 million....Jacoby is 5x the player he is

Fidel_CashFlow · 10-17-13, 07:25 AM

you are right when it comes to Ells

an actual 5 tool player.....

these contracts are ridiculous nowadays anyways so might as well pay the dude

BriGuy · 10-17-13, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by 747planes

any team that pays him more than 10 million a year without lots of conditions deserve to fail. but this is mlb and he will probably get 20 million a year.

As you said, this is MLB - and in MLB, you can't put "lots of conditions" into a player's contract. You can have a few minor incentive clauses (winning MVP, winning World Series) but you cannot put clauses that say the player has to appear in X number of games, or have such-and-such an OPS or whatever.

odog11 · 10-17-13, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by BennyBigNuts

Hate comparing him to crawford because of how overrated I always thought he was. But they are similar to when Crawford was in his prime.
I think Elsbury stays solid and consistent with his numbers, although his injuries/health are gonna be a risk.
He is also a great leader in that clubhouse.

Not a great leader actually, though better this year has been known to be a keeps to himself for the most part type. Injury prone and one of these years teams have to realize the mega bucks long term deals for position players are not worth the risk. That being said, 5 Years max is what I would do, 100 Mil.

easyliving · 10-17-13, 11:03 AM

he will get at least a 8 year contract with minimum 20M a year. Still only 30 years old and as you said guy is definitely a game changer when healthy and he is the type of guy you want batting in the top of your lineup. Just hope Mets aren't too desperate to get him and don't break the bank for him. We all remember what happened the last time a big free agent came over from the Red Sox to the Mets.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by easyliving

he will get at least a 8 year contract with minimum 20M a year. Still only 30 years old and as you said guy is definitely a game changer when healthy and he is the type of guy you want batting in the top of your lineup. Just hope Mets aren't too desperate to get him and don't break the bank for him. We all remember what happened the last time a big free agent came over from the Red Sox to the Mets.

actually Pedro coming over to the Mets kinda turned the franchise around for a few years and got them to the NLCS and a division championship. even though it lead to a ton of collapses, there was some good times in there.

the Pedro signing was a success IMO.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by wagerjunkie

actually Pedro coming over to the Mets kinda turned the franchise around for a few years and got them to the NLCS eventually and a division championship. even though it lead to a ton of collapses, there was some good times in there.

the Pedro signing was a success IMO.

Pedro was on the DL that year, they won the divison but he got them to sign Beltran, then El Duque came over, Carlos Delgado, Wright, Reyes and Kaz Matsui (that infield was stacked), outfield was Belran, Cliff Floyd (member him, he was a fkn beast at times) Shawn Green, platooned, Xavier Nady, Endy Chavez (greatest post season catch ever) and the biggest hyped bust Mets prospect in history, Lastings Milledge.

oh and can't forget about Paul LoDuca, Tommy Glavine, Billy Wagner

ah the good ole days of the Mets

easyliving · 10-17-13, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by wagerjunkie

actually Pedro coming over to the Mets kinda turned the franchise around for a few years and got them to the NLCS and a division championship. even though it lead to a ton of collapses, there was some good times in there.

the Pedro signing was a success IMO.

I was actually talking about Jason Bay

easyliving · 10-17-13, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by wagerjunkie

Pedro was on the DL that year, they won the divison but he got them to sign Beltran, then El Duque came over, Carlos Delgado, Wright, Reyes and Kaz Matsui (that infield was stacked), outfield was Belran, Cliff Floyd (member him, he was a fkn beast at times) Shawn Green, platooned, Xavier Nady, Endy Chavez (greatest post season catch ever) and the biggest hyped bust Mets prospect in history, Lastings Milledge.

ah the good ole days of the Mets

ton of talent that team should have won a pennant

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by easyliving

ton of talent that team should have won a pennant

yea read my edit..forgot about LoDuca, Glavine and Billy Wagner.

they had tying runs on base in game 7 of NLCS in 9th with Beltran up and Wainwright dropped that nasty hook for strike 3 and Beltran never took bat off his shoulders. thought people were gonna burn down the stadium. thought the stadium was gonna come down as well when Chavez robbed that HR and then doubled off runner at first. never experienced a stadium shake like that. still get goosebumps thinking about it.

crustyme · 10-17-13, 11:29 AM

another retarded thread.

ellsbury will not get anything close to $275 mil, dumbass.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by easyliving

I was actually talking about Jason Bay

talk about disaster. wonder where that scrub is now

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by wagerjunkie

I know teams are over giving out huge contracts but I def see a team going head over heals for this guy.

complete game changer when healthy. doubt he gets anything crazy like those 10 year contracts but can easily see him getting 25 mill a year.

who gets him? Red Sox resign? or let em go?

Originally posted by wagerjunkie

5 years for 120.

you'll see. scouts and GM think this guy is the next coming.

Originally posted by crustyme

another retarded thread.

ellsbury will not get anything close to $275 mil, dumbass.

READ you fuking troll bag fuk. stay the fuk out of my threads.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 12:48 PM

A Rod makes 28 mill per year.

if Ells gets 5 years at 120 thats 24 mill a year.

move along, look for your beloved e fight somewhere else.

ttwarrior1 · 10-17-13, 12:56 PM

with this guys injury issues, not a chance

willing to risk points or cash on this let me know

crustyme · 10-17-13, 12:57 PM

$24 mil/year for a guy who had 9 hrs & 53 rbis.

lol

you really are a dumbfuk.

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by crustyme

$24 mil/year for a guy who had 9 hrs & 53 rbis.

lol

you really are a dumbfuk.

he's a lead off hitter!!!!!!! holy shit

wagerjunkie · 10-17-13, 01:06 PM

.297 BA, .350 OBP, 789 OPS, 241 steals, 31 triples, 155 doubles, 65 HR, and 865 hits and 476 runs scored in the lead off spot in 7 injury riddled years and can run down any ball in the outfield. gold glover. just stfu crusty. your a fkn dork that has no clue.

crustyme · 10-17-13, 01:10 PM

oft injured leadoff batters dont get $24 mil/year. stupid fuk.

he'll be lucky to get $17mil.

Carseller4 · 10-17-13, 01:33 PM

I heard the Cubs were hot for him.

Tired of rebuilding, time to make some moves.