you're gonna see WainWright hit the DL after this game.

[wagerjunkie]

somethings gotta be wrong.

injured. or dead arm.

[Vinnie Paz]

Not watching but reds just own his ass
Last week they smashed him too

Getting down to the nitty gritty, no fake dl stints can be afforded right now for st Lou

[billysink]

Absolutely nothing in the charts suggests an injury. Location charts look consistent, release point is good. I don't know WTF.

I spent some time lookiing this morning and did not find much.

Thought the same thing last time out.

[ParlayininHTown]

with a sore vagina?

[Ghenghis Kahn]

something is wrong for sure.

probably his elbow.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Not watching but reds just own his ass
Last week they smashed him too

Getting down to the nitty gritty, no fake dl stints can be afforded right now for st Lou

let's not get carried away. these numbers even after last weeks pummeling don't show cincy ownage...

Cincinnati Reds Career statistics vs. Adam Wainwright
BATTER	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Jay Bruce	26	9	0	0	2	8	2	10	.346	.393	.577	.970
Shin-Soo Choo	8	3	2	0	0	1	1	1	.375	.444	.625	1.069
Zack Cozart	17	3	0	0	0	0	0	3	.176	.176	.176	.353
Todd Frazier	13	2	1	0	1	2	1	3	.154	.267	.462	.728
Ryan Hanigan	13	2	0	0	0	1	0	1	.154	.154	.154	.308
Jack Hannahan	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Chris Heisey	5	2	0	0	0	1	0	1	.400	.400	.400	.800
Cesar Izturis	9	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Ryan Ludwick	12	4	2	0	1	4	1	2	.333	.385	.750	1.135
Donald Lutz	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Devin Mesoraco	5	2	1	0	0	0	1	1	.400	.500	.600	1.100
Xavier Paul	8	0	0	0	0	1	0	2	.000	.000	.000	.000
Brandon Phillips	41	13	1	0	1	3	2	6	.317	.349	.415	.763
Henry Rodriguez	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Joey Votto	23	3	1	0	0	1	3	5	.130	.231	.174	.405
Totals	183	43	8	0	5	22	11	36	.235	.282	.361	.643

[wagerjunkie]

something is wrong for sure.

probably his elbow.

i watched first two innings. and like billysink said...his hitting spots, problem is they are right over meat of the plate but his velocity is down and that curveball and doesn't have nearly as much bite on it as it normally does.

dead arm, fatigued. needs rest.

[wagerjunkie]

let's not get carried away. these numbers even after last weeks pummeling don't show cincy ownage...

Cincinnati Reds Career statistics vs. Adam Wainwright
BATTER	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Jay Bruce	26	9	0	0	2	8	2	10	.346	.393	.577	.970
Shin-Soo Choo	8	3	2	0	0	1	1	1	.375	.444	.625	1.069
Zack Cozart	17	3	0	0	0	0	0	3	.176	.176	.176	.353
Todd Frazier	13	2	1	0	1	2	1	3	.154	.267	.462	.728
Ryan Hanigan	13	2	0	0	0	1	0	1	.154	.154	.154	.308
Jack Hannahan	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Chris Heisey	5	2	0	0	0	1	0	1	.400	.400	.400	.800
Cesar Izturis	9	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	.000	.000	.000	.000
Ryan Ludwick	12	4	2	0	1	4	1	2	.333	.385	.750	1.135
Donald Lutz	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Devin Mesoraco	5	2	1	0	0	0	1	1	.400	.500	.600	1.100
Xavier Paul	8	0	0	0	0	1	0	2	.000	.000	.000	.000
Brandon Phillips	41	13	1	0	1	3	2	6	.317	.349	.415	.763
Henry Rodriguez	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	.000	.000	.000	.000
Joey Votto	23	3	1	0	0	1	3	5	.130	.231	.174	.405
Totals	183	43	8	0	5	22	11	36	.235	.282	.361	.643

yes, the Reds do own him, but that was also his last start. so its not like he made a start after that and dominated or made a quality start.

this is his second straight start getting pummeled. just so happens both against Reds.

[wagerjunkie]

those numbers don't show ownage? WTF

Bruce .346
Choo .375
Heisey .400
Ludwick .333
Mesoroso .400
Phillips .317

thats 5 players in their line up hitting over .330 againts him and 6 hitting over .315 against him.

what u smooking dawg?