Bryce Harper > Mike Trout ... eventually

**KingJD31** · 04-07-13, 09:12 PM

Im with you bro, besides fielding

**mcduggly** · 04-07-13, 09:14 PM

I agree as well. I don't think Trout has another season equal to what he did last year. Not that he won't be a star of very productive, he was just ridiculous last year. Harper hasn't seen his best yet.

**Smoke** · 04-07-13, 09:17 PM

Tough call

I find them both attractive

**You mad bro** · 04-07-13, 09:20 PM

this is just my opinion

**Chi_archie** · 04-07-13, 09:27 PM

could see it

but hell both these guys might be out of baseball in 5 years. Who knows

**The Giant** · 04-07-13, 09:28 PM

Well, he'll have a better throwing arm, that's for sure.

**face** · 04-07-13, 09:31 PM

who knows. both guys pretty amazing, especially trout last year

no real holes in their swings yet

**You mad bro** · 04-07-13, 10:11 PM

Yupp imagine if both were on the same team .. 2 20 year old outfields that could both his 300+ 25 and 80-90 every year .. Would be insane on the same team lol

**InTheDrink** · 04-07-13, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Tough call

I find them both attractive

neither guey has anything on smoker

**Smoke** · 04-07-13, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

neither guey has anything on smoker

**MoneyLineDawg** · 04-07-13, 10:46 PM

Probably

**You mad bro** · 04-07-13, 10:46 PM

And trout deserved the mvp over miggy last year

**NYSportsGuy210** · 04-08-13, 12:47 AM

Bryce Harper is better than Trout.

**BennyBigNuts** · 04-08-13, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by You mad bro

harper at the end of his career will have better numbers than trout

here come the trolls

I don't think you're really going on a limb with your statement. You'd be favored -150 if there was a wager for it. Harper is a monster. He needs to fkn quit with all his queer hair-do's though.
Only thing Trout has a big lineup to help him for the next 6 years. Harper still needs a little help with that.

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by BennyBigNuts

I don't think you're really going on a limb with your statement. You'd be favored -150 if there was a wager for it. Harper is a monster. He needs to fkn quit with all his queer hair-do's though.
Only thing Trout has a big lineup to help him for the next 6 years. Harper still needs a little help with that.

Harpers lineup really isn't that bad if u think about it neither

**BennyBigNuts** · 04-08-13, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by You mad bro

Harpers lineup really isn't that bad if u think about it neither

No, not bad by any means, but not loaded with 400 million dollars behind him with Hamilton and Pujols, and then Trumbo as well.

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by BennyBigNuts

No, not bad by any means, but not loaded with 400 million dollars behind him with Hamilton and Pujols, and then Trumbo as well.

yeah thts true .. but then again those 300 million dollar players arent doing shit this year so far lol ..hopefully they keep it up for the entire year .. hate LA

**TrapperDapper** · 04-08-13, 07:08 AM

Trout can't hit for the power Harper can, but he will play much better defense than him and probably hit for a higher average. Trout was the mvp last year, and it wasn't very close.

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Trout can't hit for the power Harper can, but he will play much better defense than him and probably hit for a higher average. Trout was the mvp last year, and it wasn't very close.

the triple crown winner says otherwise

**broadway6** · 04-08-13, 07:17 AM

I almost made this thread last week. Shocked at all the Harper love in this thread, since everyone was in Trouts jock last year. I guess everyone loves who is hot now.

**TrapperDapper** · 04-08-13, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by You mad bro

the triple crown winner says otherwise

Triple crown means little outside of Home Runs. Trout beats Cabrera in every way outside of strikeouts and power. He plays +defense while Cabrera hurts his team on defense. Trout had a higher on base percentage which is more important than batting average. Stop looking at 5x5 roto stats expecting that to tell the tale of who the better player was just because some 60 year old writers are still living in the 70's and think the triple crown and making the playoffs matters to how good of a player you are.

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by broadway6

I almost made this thread last week. Shocked at all the Harper love in this thread, since everyone was in Trouts jock last year. I guess everyone loves who is hot now.

thats exactly why i said here come the trolls lol .. everyone was in love with him last year and then all of a sudden this year harper is the one theyd pick .. its probably because trouts hitting 200 compared to harpers 400 in 6 games .. lol oh wells

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Triple crown means little outside of Home Runs. Trout beats Cabrera in every way outside of strikeouts and power. He plays +defense while Cabrera hurts his team on defense. Trout had a higher on base percentage which is more important than batting average. Stop looking at 5x5 roto stats expecting that to tell the tale of who the better player was just because some 60 year old writers are still living in the 70's and think the triple crown and making the playoffs matters to how good of a player you are.

triple crown is a big deal .. idc if ur a DH .. if u can hit like that for an entire year you deserve the MVP

miggy hit .330, 44 HRS and 139 RBIS, also had over 200 hits, over 100 runs, and under 100 strike outs ... u can argue he had prince behind him but trout had pujols and trumbo ... oh and another thing .. as a first time 3B in the league for a full season, a .966 fielding percentage isnt that bad

**broadway6** · 04-08-13, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Triple crown means little outside of Home Runs. Trout beats Cabrera in every way outside of strikeouts and power. He plays +defense while Cabrera hurts his team on defense. Trout had a higher on base percentage which is more important than batting average. Stop looking at 5x5 roto stats expecting that to tell the tale of who the better player was just because some 60 year old writers are still living in the 70's and think the triple crown and making the playoffs matters to how good of a player you are.

One triple crown winner in 60 years isn't a very big deal. Lets see of trout can follow up a awesome year with another.

**TrapperDapper** · 04-08-13, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by You mad bro

triple crown is a big deal .. idc if ur a DH .. if u can hit like that for an entire year you deserve the MVP

miggy hit .330, 44 HRS and 139 RBIS, also had over 200 hits, over 100 runs, and under 100 strike outs ... u can argue he had prince behind him but trout had pujols and trumbo ... oh and another thing .. as a first time 3B in the league for a full season, a .966 fielding percentage isnt that bad

Fielding percentage doesn't matter when you can't get to anything. Errors aren't a good way to judge defensive value, they're a good way to judge how well you do on balls hit right to you. Trout hit 326 and had 30 home runs and 83 rbi at the lead off spot with a great average with runners in scoring position which would mean he would produce at a similar clip if extrapolated over the season with same number of opportunities. Trout adds value on the base path where Cabrera also detracts it.

**EmpireMaker** · 04-08-13, 08:06 AM

Harper will never be even remotely close to Trout at all.

**BigDeem5** · 04-08-13, 08:09 AM

Trout > Harper..

Harper's long swing will get him in trouble... I don't see him hitting .300 this year or in the next few for years to come..

Could see .280-.290

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

Trout > Harper..

Harper's long swing will get him in trouble... I don't see him hitting .300 this year or in the next few for years to come..

Could see .280-.290

You know i love you and everything but have you seen harper turn on inside pitches this year? Or hit balls oppo in spring .. His swing is so natural and can only get better . While trout now has to live up to his rookie numbers ..not saying trout is bad in any way .. Just my opinion on this

**You mad bro** · 04-08-13, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Fielding percentage doesn't matter when you can't get to anything. Errors aren't a good way to judge defensive value, they're a good way to judge how well you do on balls hit right to you. Trout hit 326 and had 30 home runs and 83 rbi at the lead off spot with a great average with runners in scoring position which would mean he would produce at a similar clip if extrapolated over the season with same number of opportunities. Trout adds value on the base path where Cabrera also detracts it.

Balls hit right to him

.. Guess you never seen miggy play defense before .. Guy can move pretty well for someone his size .. Ur trying to compare a CF who should have speed to a 3B which isn't a high speed position for base running .. Give me any MVP caliber 3b players that can steal 40+ bases in a year .. Miggy hit for a higher average .. Barely but still did .. More home runs and more rbis ..

Played in a bigger ballpark also .. Thats another key factor

**NYSportsGuy210** · 04-08-13, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Triple crown means little outside of Home Runs. Trout beats Cabrera in every way outside of strikeouts and power. He plays +defense while Cabrera hurts his team on defense. Trout had a higher on base percentage which is more important than batting average. Stop looking at 5x5 roto stats expecting that to tell the tale of who the better player was just because some 60 year old writers are still living in the 70's and think the triple crown and making the playoffs matters to how good of a player you are.

Miguel Cabrera had the highest WAR in baseball last year and his team made the World Series. Mike Trout's team under performed all year long. MVP candidate was right.

**TrapperDapper** · 04-08-13, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Miguel Cabrera had the highest WAR in baseball last year and his team made the World Series. Mike Trout's team under performed all year long. MVP candidate was right.

What WAR are you looking at? Trout's WAR was much higher. Give me any center fielder who plays plus plus defense over any 3b as long as their production behind the plate is similar. Trout played in less games than Cabrera and his team had a better record. And the fact that you think think Anaheim has a better park to hit in than Detroit shows you aren't very well informed.

**haloeast** · 04-08-13, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210

Miguel Cabrera had the highest WAR in baseball last year and his team made the World Series. Mike Trout's team under performed all year long. MVP candidate was right.

this is incorrect ...mike trout had the highest war of 2012 (and of any active position player for any season ...21st best season EVER in mlb) at 10.9 ...cabrera finished at 7.3 ...harper at 5.2 ...bonds (2001, 2002) is the only player in relatively recent history (you must go to joe morgan in 1975) to post a better war than trout in 2012

**Inspirited** · 04-08-13, 10:08 AM

this thread is a troll thread

bet u were just waiting for harper to have a better start this season so you can start talking sheet about trout

**BennyBigNuts** · 04-08-13, 10:52 AM

Originally posted by TrapperDapper

Triple crown means little outside of Home Runs. Trout beats Cabrera in every way outside of strikeouts and power. He plays +defense while Cabrera hurts his team on defense. Trout had a higher on base percentage which is more important than batting average. Stop looking at 5x5 roto stats expecting that to tell the tale of who the better player was just because some 60 year old writers are still living in the 70's and think the triple crown and making the playoffs matters to how good of a player you are.

"triple crown and making the playoffs matters to how good of a player you are"
Yikes, this guy is quite clueless lol.