WrestleMania just 2 weeks away!!!!! Thoughts?

[Tuesday]

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and i'm shaking my head why you WOULDN'T bet on a predetermined event if you pretty much knew the outcome

I don't think this can be counted as knowing the outcome, unless you have inside information. They can fix it to whatever they want, so it's not certain you can guess what script they will go with - let the popular wrestlers win so to appease the public, or let the hated ones win so to get fans hooked to see when their guy will get revenge. Either way, unless you seen the script, it not a sure thing.

[Sacrelicious]

I don't think this can be counted as knowing the outcome, unless you have inside information. They can fix it to whatever they want, so it's not certain you can guess what script they will go with - let the popular wrestlers win so to appease the public, or let the hated ones win so to get fans hooked to see when their guy will get revenge. Either way, unless you seen the script, it not a sure thing.

Dirt sheets have a lot of info on this stuff. Usually at least 2 or 3 matches, or as many as half on any given card, are ridiculously predictable.

[Tuesday]

Ohhhh yeeeeaaaaahhh!!!

macho man= ohhhh yeeaaaaaahhhhhh .
i just saw his dvd on netflix. his first ever wwf match had alot of energy in a controlled way. no wonder many thought it could be real. i could go on forever about 80's wrestling

I like wrestling from the 80's, but I can stand the gay soap opera shiit on now. Maybe it's because more girls watching now, or more backstreet boys/bieber/whatever the hollywood people think is cool now.

[TheGuesser]

I guess your probably right but my argument would be that CM Punk really needs this. He was champ for over a year now he's gonna job at 3 straight PPv's? Taker was never going to lose to HHH, he is too old to benefit from such a huge win. Bad build up or not I see no good reason for Punk not to win this.

As for HHH I dont think the stipulation really gave anything away. He is clearly winding down his career and he certainly wouldnt be the 1st guy to lose a retirement match and then comebacck. Both Heyman guys lose??

Punk will be taking some time off after Mania. There is as close to zero % chance as you can get in a pre determined event that he's going to lose. When/If The Streak ever ends, it'll be to a killing machine young heel, that needs the final bump of beating the Taker at Mania. Think Ryback, only as a heel, about 6 months ago type push. Punk doesn't need this. He's top of the card already. Punk and Jericho can lose every PPV match they're in, and it doesn't matter, they're teflon, loses don't matter.

[konck]

Punk will be taking some time off after Mania. There is as close to zero % chance as you can get in a pre determined event that he's going to lose. When/If The Streak ever ends, it'll be to a killing machine young heel, that needs the final bump of beating the Taker at Mania. Think Ryback, only as a heel, about 6 months ago type push. Punk doesn't need this. He's top of the card already. Punk and Jericho can lose every PPV match they're in, and it doesn't matter, they're teflon, loses don't matter.

Do you even watch WWE Jericho is a has been who really never was. Punk is some crack whore that must have had something on Vinny Mac because his talent isnt what got him fame.
As for predetermined of course its scripted but Mcmahon changes the outcome like 6 times before kick off
some say he changes as they are going to the ring. So your betting here really isnt predetermined unless
you have V Mac as a source. Seems loke the favorites are priced really high Ill take dogs because the one thing WWE is not predictable

[Sacrelicious]

I guess your probably right but my argument would be that CM Punk really needs this. He was champ for over a year now he's gonna job at 3 straight PPv's? Taker was never going to lose to HHH, he is too old to benefit from such a huge win. Bad build up or not I see no good reason for Punk not to win this.

As for HHH I dont think the stipulation really gave anything away. He is clearly winding down his career and he certainly wouldnt be the 1st guy to lose a retirement match and then comebacck. Both Heyman guys lose??

You are thinking too logically about this, of course HHH should put Brock over, WWE booking rarely follows logic in these sorts of situations though.

A semi retired HHH retires after a loss... then HHH came out of retirement... to fight Brock... in a retirement match.... announced 2 weeks before the PPV, with no fanfare since then... ??

Typical WWE logical booking errors and plot holes Whenever they do something like this, especially involving someone like HHH, disregard all logic and sense.

[Sacrelicious]

Also be aware, WM is not a typical WWE PPV, it has a ridiculously high percentage of top babyfaces going over.

Dirtsheets are also reporting Brock is scheduled and booked for an appearance at Extreme Rules.

HHH wins here, Brock goes nuts, Brock kills him next month.

[konck]

Fandango will be a has been out of the company by the end of the year.

Faaaaan Daaaan Go is so similar to Brotus Clay remember how much they built him up ....now he needs
the funkadactals and the kids to keep him afloat.

[konck]

Also be aware, WM is not a typical WWE PPV, it has a ridiculously high percentage of top babyfaces going over.

Dirtsheets are also reporting Brock is scheduled and booked for an appearance at Extreme Rules.

HHH wins here, Brock goes nuts, Brock kills him next month.

When I go to Dirtsheets the last podcast was August 12th

[Sacrelicious]

When I go to Dirtsheets the last podcast was August 12th

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[Sacrelicious]

"Dirtsheet" is a broad term to review to a number of these sites, not a particular site.

[konck]

Wow nice I wasnt getting that .....they have detailed MMA also a lot of members here would like this site

[Sacrelicious]

Wow nice I wasnt getting that .....they have detailed MMA also a lot of members here would like this site

Awesome site, Dave Meltzer was the first real journalist who started covering Pro Wrestling in the 80s, and MMA in the early 90s.

You have him to pretty much thank for every MMA journalist website today.

[Pabinator]

So is SBR going to have lines again this year? I wanna lose all my points again

[beach nut]

I'll take Rick Rude +130, Million Dollar Man -110, Mr. Perfect -130, Macho Man-140, Andre the Giant -150, Chris Benoit +180, Bad News Brown +200, Eddie Guerrero -125, The British Bull Dog -110, The Fabulous Moolah -125, Big Boss Man +220, Miss Elizabeth +260, Yokozuna +200, Earthquake +220, Owen Hart +300, Junk Yard Dog -140, and the entire Von Erich family +120 for 500 a pop.

Who's fading me?

Been a while since I watched wrestling but at least some of these picks must be locks right? I'm sure most of these guys/gals must be at the peak of their health?

[pensfan1919]

There is zero chance Undertaker is losing.

There is close to zero chance Cena and HHH are losing.

There is about a 99% chance The Shield and Fandango are winning.

So 5 very likely outcomes to put into parlays.

[Sacrelicious]

There is zero chance Undertaker is losing.

There is close to zero chance Cena and HHH are losing.

There is about a 99% chance The Shield and Fandango are winning.

So 5 very likely outcomes to put into parlays.

Agreed, I think the Ryback win is very favorable as well, but you've essentially got it.

[easyliving]

whats the limit @5dimes for each?

[stevenash]

whats the limit @5dimes for each?

Think it's going to be 50 bucks this year.

[Sacrelicious]

whats the limit @5dimes for each?

Fifty, but you can also parlay them round robin style and hit them again when the line moves.

[konck]

I know who I think wins but Ill probably sucker in for the dogs WM is not as predictable
as most think. Rock slammed Cena with a Rock Bottom monday night that usually would
mean Cena wins WM. With close odds im starting to think DelRio wins ez here. I can see punk winning I think he must be blow Mcmahon. I can see HHH losing but somehow
he will still come back.

[pensfan1919]

Agreed, I think the Ryback win is very favorable as well, but you've essentially got it.

I agree except that they may do a screwy finish since it is the first match in the feud. Maybe a DQ or a double countout-something stupid like that.

To the above poster, there is ZERO CHANCE Punk is beating Taker. ZERO as in "not a chance in hell".

HHH has lost clean at the past 2 Mania's and lost clean to Brock at Summerslam. In storyline, Brock has broken his arm twice, and beat up his friends and family numerous times. HHH wins this one.

[Vaughany]

[Thor4140]

Awesome site, Dave Meltzer was the first real journalist who started covering Pro Wrestling in the 80s, and MMA in the early 90s.

You have him to pretty much thank for every MMA journalist website today.

Does Meltzer do any other soap opera web sites? How could you call a site awesome when he is talking about wrestling?

[5mike5]

Does Meltzer do any other soap opera web sites? How could you call a site awesome when he is talking about wrestling?

why come in a wrestling thread and ask dumbass questions?

[konck]

why come in a wrestling thread and ask dumbass questions?

Because he is a dumb ass?

[easyliving]

any chance one of these -200 or below favs loses

[MD]

any chance one of these -200 or below favs loses

Yes.

[Sacrelicious]

any chance one of these -200 or below favs loses

Its possible, but I doubt it.

The Shield, Undertaker and Fandango will be as close to locks as you can get.

There is close to abslutely ZERO chance the undertaker loses.

But certainly, anything can happen.

[PhillyFlyers]

Its possible, but I doubt it.

The Shield, Undertaker and Fandango will be as close to locks as you can get.

There is close to abslutely ZERO chance the undertaker loses.

But certainly, anything can happen.

I can see The Shield interfering with the CM Punk/Undertaker match on behalf of Punk and Punk covering for the win. Taker's streak has to end at some point.

[5mike5]

I can see The Shield interfering with the CM Punk/Undertaker match on behalf of Punk and Punk covering for the win. Taker's streak has to end at some point.

actually, i dont think it ever ends

he will retire undefeated in WM

[g_sept1]

many thoughts, one who the heck watches wrestling..?

Don't lie. You were watching it during the attitude era. I want to see of the WWE handles the most likely cold conditions that night.


***Going to seriously make an effort to see WM30 live in New Orleans***

[Mikeyanks23]

actually, i dont think it ever ends

he will retire undefeated in WM

he has said many timea he would end the streak with cena. But its pointless now. Cena doesnt need the win.

[stealthyburrito]

he has said many timea he would end the streak with cena. But its pointless now. Cena doesnt need the win.

I have never heard that before.

I've heard he does want the streak snapped at some point to give an up and comer the biggest rub of all time. Whoever does snap it will be pushed to the moon.

The inclusion of cena in challenging the streak is the perception that he could snap it. Despite the quality of his last few defenses the outcomes were quite obvious every time. Who ever snaps it will be established but not quite on the level of a john cena status in the wwe.

[5mike5]

guess we shall see...someday