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  • BennyBigNuts
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-16-12
    • 8700

    #1
    How many people like Pitt to beat Gonzaga 2nd round? Any chance?
    Listened to a kid go off at a poker table for about 30+ minutes non-stop about the tourney coming up and there was no doubt he's watched a million college games this year.
    The one thing he was adamant about was saying Pitt will win in the 2nd round against Gonzaga, and to load up on the moneyline if you like to bet.
    He also stated he is not a big sports bettor, thus making me listen to him even more, because once I know a guy is a degenerate gambler, I instantly know fading him is a better option, and his knowledge is worthless, also I turn my headphones up instead and don't even bother entertaining them. This kid was just a die-hard hoops fan who wants to be a coach one day. He knew everything about every team in the tourney, not just his favorite conference.

    I barely bet anything other than baseball but I always throw some bets down for March Madness. It's the best event Vegas has to offer. Anywhere you go is just awesome.

    He convinced me to stick a nugget on Pitt if they win the first round game. Im guessing they will be +6 or +7 vs Gonzaga maybe? Is that accurate?

    Anyone think Pitt is that good? And feel the same way? Or is Gonzaga worth all the hype and really the best team in the tourney?
  • SamDiamond
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-19-12
    • 6107

    #2
    I don't think anyone outside of Gonzaga's campus believes they are the best team in the tournament.

    They were the 4th #1 seed.

    Absolutely Pitt has a chance.

    Pitt has beaten Syracuse and Georgetown, and lost to Louisville by 3 on the road.

    So, they definitely have a chance.
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    • Easy-Rider 66
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      • 02-14-12
      • 36609

      #3
      Would guess that the line would be lower than 6/7. Pitt has a good shot to win.
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      • BennyBigNuts
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 04-16-12
        • 8700

        #4
        Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
        Would guess that the line would be lower than 6/7. Pitt has a good shot to win.
        Yeah, College hoops is my least watched sport these days due to the lack of dedicated players to their programs. The 6/7 guess was mine so is probably a little off. I was wishful thinking maybe as well lol.
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        • rm18
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-20-05
          • 22291

          #5
          Pitt will be a 3 point dog at most
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          • Regul8er
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-06-07
            • 10666

            #6
            Honestly, I dont think Pitt gets by Wichita St.
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            • BennyBigNuts
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              • 04-16-12
              • 8700

              #7
              Originally posted by rm18
              Pitt will be a 3 point dog at most
              I'd be shocked if it was 3. There would be too much of an overload of action on Gonzaga that low along with bettors pounding a small moneyline on a 1 seed. Even if you make them -6 the public will bet them. Won't they?
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              • DOM_Toretto
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                • 01-28-13
                • 9035

                #8
                I've seen every single team play multiple games this season (exception a few 16 seeds).

                I got Wichita State over Pitt first round, sorry bud, but you may not even get the chance. With that being said, Gonzaga is so overrated that they're now underrated. Kelly Olynyk is playing on a whole other level, stretching the court by hitting 3s and getting aggressive down low and also hitting FTs, and Pangos and Bell would probably be too much for Pitt to handle.
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                • mikemca
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-10-10
                  • 10047

                  #9
                  Pitt sticks out like a sore thumb as an 8 seed on Kenpom, they are ranked 7th overall ahead of Kansas.
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                  • k13
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-16-10
                    • 18104

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
                    I'd be shocked if it was 3. There would be too much of an overload of action on Gonzaga that low along with bettors pounding a small moneyline on a 1 seed. Even if you make them -6 the public will bet them. Won't they?
                    Public is not like that anymore, they are all about cute dogs and fading teams like zaga.
                    No one cares about seeds that much anymore. Look how much action all these high seeds are getting right now.
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                    • BennyBigNuts
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                      • 04-16-12
                      • 8700

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                      I've seen every single team play multiple games this season (exception a few 16 seeds).

                      I got Wichita State over Pitt first round, sorry bud, but you may not even get the chance. With that being said, Gonzaga is so overrated that they're now underrated. Kelly Olynyk is playing on a whole other level, stretching the court by hitting 3s and getting aggressive down low and also hitting FTs, and Pangos and Bell would probably be too much for Pitt to handle.
                      This kid actually said Wichita St. was a horrible draw for Pitt, and said they have more a chance to beat them than Gonzaga but won't lol. He was a little Big-east biased possibly, he liked Louisville and Miami as well, but he was a Pac-10 kid from Cali. So all justified.
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                      • Stallion
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-21-10
                        • 3617

                        #12
                        If Pittsburgh gets by Wichita State, they will beat Gonzaga.
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                        • LT Profits
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                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Gonzaga would be around -2.5 over Pitt. If it's much higher than that, Pitt has value.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Personally I think whoever wins Pitt/WichSt matchup beats Gonzaga
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                            • Emily_Haines
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-09
                              • 15917

                              #15
                              Why is it a LOCK Pittsburgh will even get by Wichita St.?
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                              • BennyBigNuts
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 04-16-12
                                • 8700

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                Why is it a LOCK Pittsburgh will even get by Wichita St.?
                                Where do you see anyone say it's a lock? Try reading. I know anything more than 2 lines is hard for some ppl, but it does say "If they win their first round game".
                                Jaggggg-off
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                                • BigDeem5
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-26-11
                                  • 17191

                                  #17
                                  Zaga too good to lose to Pitt.. Better at Pg, Better at pf, C and push at other positions.

                                  Pitt highly overrated all year, but they could beat Wichita.

                                  Fade em against Zaga.
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                                  • ch3ss
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-18-13
                                    • 208

                                    #18
                                    I think the Zags will cream Pitt.... I have seen them play alot this year and Pitt is just so inconsistent... They cant score when needed....

                                    Granted they played a good game the other week against the Cuse... But I think Zags are for real this year... they will have a chip on their shoulders... just IMO.
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                                    • PaperTrail07
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-29-08
                                      • 20423

                                      #19
                                      my guess would be pitt +4....tops
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        again, as many have noted. Wich. St. is kinda a tough matchup for Pitt

                                        but if Pitt does get by first round. An interesting Matchup to watch will be Steve Adams gaurding Olynyk. Adams has been a bit of a disappointment on the offensive side, but he has a great motor and athleticism on defense. Legit 7 footer with long wing span.

                                        In my opinion I think Pitt teams have by and large under achieved in the Jamie Dixon era, because they are so well taught in team ball. When a big tourney game comes along and must score possessions come along. They don't have a pure scorer that can just take over, carry the team, create his own shot and get you a bucket.


                                        Woodall and Patterson have shown that at times, and you gotta love their experience. but they don't really have the mentality to take those big shots.
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                                        • Big Bang Clock
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 01-08-13
                                          • 335

                                          #21
                                          Call me crazy, but I have Pitt making the final 4. More of a gut feeling then anything else. You can easily make an argument that they have no chance of them getting there because of their inconsistent play this season. But I like the road they have ahead of them and Gonzaga is overrated. Put them in the Big East and they would not be where they are.
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                                          • Herky
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-09-10
                                            • 748

                                            #22
                                            Pitt won't even get by Wichita
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                                            • dalogester
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-02-13
                                              • 1088

                                              #23
                                              I love all the wichita love. I go to wsu
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                                              • number1redskinsf
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 03-09-13
                                                • 12

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                Honestly, I dont think Pitt gets by Wichita St.
                                                I agree with, I have a feeling Wichita State is going to pull off the upset
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                                                • Footballtime
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-20-10
                                                  • 3229

                                                  #25
                                                  Benny, The Zags will roll Pitt....and i mean roll em.........Big kid for Gonzaga will have a field day with big Dummy Adams from Pitt...............This Zags team is very good and has many other team players that fit into a nice system...I say Pitt wont hit 55 points off this defense......... Zags will roll em by a dime atleast 68-53..........
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                                                  • Bcatswin
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-21-10
                                                    • 13931

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                    Honestly, I dont think Pitt gets by Wichita St.
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                                                    • konck
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-17-06
                                                      • 12554

                                                      #27
                                                      Im gonna bet Pitt over Wich St for sure
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                                                      • NjSunDvlSal
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 02-23-12
                                                        • 186

                                                        #28
                                                        WICHITA STATE SUCKSSSSSSSSSSS!!! Pitt will not lose to that pathetic MVC team that will lose to anyone outside of their arena.
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                                                        • pook
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 02-12-13
                                                          • 102

                                                          #29
                                                          I have watched every minute of every Pitt game for years now and the one thing you can always count on Pitt to do is fall flat on their faces in the tournament. Jamie Dixon's substitutions are maddening and will drive you crazy if you bet on them. Someone will score 6 straight points and because he wants to rotate everyone in he will take that person out. He never rides the hot hand and I think that is one of the reasons they always struggle in the tournament.

                                                          Pitt could easily lose to Wichita St in round 1 or they could easily beat Gonzaga. Talent wise they are probably better than Gonzaga but who knows. I wouldn't bet on them but they do have a good shot at making the Sweet 16.
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #30
                                                            Honestly feel like zags getting shit on way too much, really not sure anyone in their region is strong enough offensively to beat them? Clearly there some teams like pit and wiscy that grind teams down but don't think they have enough scorers to knock zags off..
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                                                            • unusialsusp5
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-18-10
                                                              • 4198

                                                              #31
                                                              fade the kid if pitt gets to them. how much spare time does this kid have to know the strengths and weaknesses of 56 teams in tournament plus must know about the teams that didn't make it also. he doesn't bet but sits at a poker table for hours on end. wants to be a "coach" someday. good luck with that. sounds like a attention seeking blowhard. fade.
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                                                              • You mad bro
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-15-12
                                                                • 16641

                                                                #32
                                                                Gonzaga will lose in round 1
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                                                                • DOM_Toretto
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-28-13
                                                                  • 9035

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by You mad bro
                                                                  Gonzaga will lose in round 1
                                                                  I'll take any and all action on this. I'll lay whatever odds you want. What a joke.
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                                                                  • You mad bro
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-15-12
                                                                    • 16641

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                                    I'll take any and all action on this. I'll lay whatever odds you want. What a joke.
                                                                    I wasn't being serious..

                                                                    But I'll give u a dollar if they win and if They lose u give me 2,000 dollars
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                                                                    • seaborneq
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-08-06
                                                                      • 22556

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Don't waste your time on a Pitt ML against Gonzaga. Dixon had horses a few years ago and couldn't beat a higher seed or make a final four. He is the ultimate fave choker. Plus Pitt hasn't been doing well in its own conference tourney. I wouldn't bet any substantial money on Pitt win consecutive games in the tourney.
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