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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #1
    Great quote about Gonzaga
    I try not to be too firm about these things, but I honestly do not see Gonzaga rising above No. 7 on my ballot, even if the Zags win out. The reality is they are not playing the same caliber of competition as teams who are ranked ahead of them. Should we move a team up the rankings just because people above them are losing? If anything, I suspect the Zags aren't as good as their current ranking would indicate. Think about it: The Zags' best wins this season came over Kansas State in Seattle and by a point at Oklahoma State on New Year's Eve. Does that sound like a top-five team to you?

    Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...#ixzz2KeFlXQve
  • frongi
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-05-13
    • 114

    #2
    can only beat the teams on their schedule... now if your talking a statistical ranking I agree, but it's not fair to automatically move a bcs team below other bcs teams but not gonzaga. pac-12 is nothing special either so why should a team get moved below arizona for losing but not gonzaga? the nature of polls is to drop a team that loses... don't think because a team isn't in a bcs conference should make that the point at which the team that lost stops dropping.
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    • rm18
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-20-05
      • 22291

      #3
      If they go 18-0 in conference they should move up, make an 18 game parlay with their conference games and it will pay pretty well.
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      • InTheDrink
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-23-09
        • 23983

        #4
        Originally posted by frongi
        can only beat the teams on their schedule... now if your talking a statistical ranking I agree, but it's not fair to automatically move a bcs team below other bcs teams but not gonzaga. pac-12 is nothing special either so why should a team get moved below arizona for losing but not gonzaga? the nature of polls is to drop a team that loses... don't think because a team isn't in a bcs conference should make that the point at which the team that lost stops dropping.
        in terms of rpi the wcc isnt really close to the p12 and thats really whats gonna matter

        other than street mary that conference is pure garbage
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        • Ralphie1412
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-29-08
          • 13963

          #5
          Brock quit acting like you know something or have an opinion.
          "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
          Goat Milk
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          • frongi
            SBR High Roller
            • 02-05-13
            • 114

            #6
            Originally posted by InTheDrink
            in terms of rpi the wcc isnt really close to the p12 and thats really whats gonna matter

            other than street mary that conference is pure garbage
            i agree but i think that arbitrarily drawing the line of how far the team falls at "first mid major team below them" doesn't make sense. ap and usa today aren't objective statistical rankings, its a measure of popular opinion and not recently losing.
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            • TheSchafe
              SBR MVP
              • 12-29-09
              • 2143

              #7
              So...does this mean the Zags go all the way now?
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              • Cuse4tw
                SBR MVP
                • 03-16-10
                • 2895

                #8
                no one cares what you think about gonzaga brock
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                • Brock Landers
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 06-30-08
                  • 45359

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Cuse4tw
                  no one cares what you think about gonzaga brock
                  no one cares what you think about Anything pal, which is worse?
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                  • dalogester
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-02-13
                    • 1088

                    #10
                    Hmm, they beat Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Baylor and West Virgina (crap but apart of Big 12). Looks like to me they didn't play that bad of an out of conference schedule.
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                    • ROYAJA8
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-23-09
                      • 2069

                      #11
                      Zags will make final four at least.
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                      • konck
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-17-06
                        • 12554

                        #12
                        Brock who did you copy and paste that from.....you little radio star you!
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                        • Ralphie Halves
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-13-09
                          • 4507

                          #13
                          Best advice I've heard on Gonzaga is to bet them hard in the tourney when they're rated low, fade when rated high.

                          That being said, this year's team is as strong and as balanced as I've ever seen them. Anyone's game this year.
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                          • onacloud
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-14-10
                            • 5360

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brock Landers
                            no one cares what you think about Anything pal, which is worse?
                            No one here cares about anything you say... besides when you mention RUBBERBAND
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                            • Brock Landers
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45359

                              #15
                              Originally posted by onacloud
                              No one here cares about anything you say... besides when you mention RUBBERBAND
                              phuck you
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                              • BigDeem5
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-26-11
                                • 17191

                                #16
                                Brock fade gonzaga first round of tourney, they'll be like -4.5
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                                • DOM_Toretto
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-28-13
                                  • 9035

                                  #17
                                  Kelly olynyk is a damn superstar. Kids a stud, period. And their guards ain't bad either, similar to butler's. Zags got the recipe for a deep march run boys.
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                                  • rm18
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-20-05
                                    • 22291

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                    Brock fade gonzaga first round of tourney, they'll be like -4.5
                                    no they wont they will get a 1 or 2 seed
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                                    • d2bets
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 39995

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by frongi
                                      can only beat the teams on their schedule... now if your talking a statistical ranking I agree, but it's not fair to automatically move a bcs team below other bcs teams but not gonzaga. pac-12 is nothing special either so why should a team get moved below arizona for losing but not gonzaga? the nature of polls is to drop a team that loses... don't think because a team isn't in a bcs conference should make that the point at which the team that lost stops dropping.
                                      But in a ranking system it matters who's on your schedule. If you had a team in an awful conference win all their games and they played all awful teams from other conferences in non-conf play, and they went undefeated, are you going to rank them #1 because they're undefeated. They could easily be a very poor team.
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                                      • DOM_Toretto
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-28-13
                                        • 9035

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                        But in a ranking system it matters who's on your schedule. If you had a team in an awful conference win all their games and they played all awful teams from other conferences in non-conf play, and they went undefeated, are you going to rank them #1 because they're undefeated. They could easily be a very poor team.
                                        REF: Notre Dame #1 in BCS rankings in collee football. Won all their games; not very good team.
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                                        • Lockitup_Panda
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 11-27-11
                                          • 175

                                          #21
                                          Brock do you have any plays today in college hoops?
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                                          • Wilfred
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-19-12
                                            • 1908

                                            #22
                                            I think they lose @ St Mary's anyways.
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                                            • ttwarrior1
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 06-23-09
                                              • 28464

                                              #23
                                              lol and gonzaga ever has?
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                                              • Da Beer Guy
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 02-11-13
                                                • 393

                                                #24
                                                Good day gentlemen,


                                                Does anyone care to share their thoughts on Gonzaga vs St Marys on Thursday?

                                                I'm thinking Gonzaga can pull off a nice road victory here. I think their
                                                bigs will be too much of a force for St. Marys to handle.

                                                No offense to any St. Marys fans but i think they are a bit soft.
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                                                • qb1789
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 12-22-12
                                                  • 497

                                                  #25
                                                  St Mary's all day in that game. Not sure what the line will be but i am guessing they'll be 5 point dogs? Gonzaga is the most overrated team in the nation. St. Mary's may be the most underrated team in the nation. Put that together and it equals easy money on St. Mary's ml and spread.
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                                                  • SamDiamond
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-19-12
                                                    • 6107

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by qb1789
                                                    St Mary's all day in that game. Not sure what the line will be but i am guessing they'll be 5 point dogs? Gonzaga is the most overrated team in the nation. St. Mary's may be the most underrated team in the nation. Put that together and it equals easy money on St. Mary's ml and spread.
                                                    I don't buy the overrated/underrated angle, but Gonzaga-St. Mary's is a true rivalry game, and with that---- you have to throw out some common sense because you just can't predict how rivalry games go.
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                                                    • Wilfred
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-19-12
                                                      • 1908

                                                      #27
                                                      I doubt Gonzaga is -5 at St Mary's. it should be close to PK.
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                                                      • Cuse4tw
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-16-10
                                                        • 2895

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                        no one cares what you think about Anything pal, which is worse?
                                                        being brock landers is the clear answer
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                                                        • Jonah
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-21-09
                                                          • 4042

                                                          #29
                                                          Brock, where is this great quote?
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