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  • TPowell
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-21-08
    • 18842

    #1
    Attention: College Basketball fans
    If you watched ND/UL.... This is how Butler beats top level teams with inferior talent. The top teams are all filled with idiots and poor coaches.
  • tblues2005
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    • 07-30-06
    • 9235

    #2
    You hit that on the nail head.
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    • TPowell
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      • 02-21-08
      • 18842

      #3
      when you fill your brackets out, make sure to remember teams that can't close. LOUISVILLE is the case study here. Unless they drastically change in a month (unlikely), they will go into March as a team who CAN'T WIN CLOSE GAMES. Those teams go home early
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      • GOIRISH
        SBR MVP
        • 09-25-10
        • 2072

        #4
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        • innovation
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          • 01-27-12
          • 6218

          #5
          Saturday late TV game enough said
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          • Cuse0323
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-09-09
            • 30169

            #6
            Doesn't seem like any top teams can close. Miami is looking like the top team at the moment.
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            • TPowell
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-21-08
              • 18842

              #7
              Originally posted by GOIRISH



              congrats, your team finally took a game from a team TRYING TO LOSE after 5 overtimes
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              • TPowell
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-21-08
                • 18842

                #8
                Originally posted by Cuse0323
                Doesn't seem like any top teams can close. Miami is looking like the top team at the moment.

                Duke can close, Michigan and Indiana aren't awful closers.
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                • ChalkyDog
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-02-11
                  • 9598

                  #9
                  Ville will be fine. This shit levels itself out.

                  There is not an untouchable team. Ville can win as easily as 20 other teams.

                  Deal with Russ Smith though.
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                  • TPowell
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-21-08
                    • 18842

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                    Ville will be fine. This shit levels itself out.

                    There is not an untouchable team. Ville can win as easily as 20 other teams.

                    Deal with Russ Smith though.


                    There is no dealing with an out of control ball hog. This team WILL NOT make the Sweet 16 without favorable matchups
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                    • ChalkyDog
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-02-11
                      • 9598

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                      Doesn't seem like any top teams can close. Miami is looking like the top team at the moment.
                      Zona.

                      Lost one game they shouldn't because the prima-donna's at UCLA decided to play.

                      6 in RPI
                      Top 10 SOS
                      Rocked Miami by 19 on a neutral court. (The Reggie Johnson thing only has Merit, if you are willing to believe that Miami would rail Duke by even more if he actually played a significant role when they played).

                      Keep in mind the PAC has a winning combined record vs. the other 5 major conferences. Also has a combined winning record vs every conference rated ahead of them in RPI.

                      One thing they can do is win close games consistently this year. Only thing keeping them from dominating is the constant spotting of opponents 10-15 pts to start the game.

                      The only Knock on Arizona was they haven't won their games "well enough". I.e against Florida and Colorado. There is a lot to be said about being able to win when you play ugly. As the recent weeks has pointed out.
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                      • GOIRISH
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-25-10
                        • 2072

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        congrats, your team finally took a game from a team TRYING TO LOSE after 5 overtimes
                        Ya "trying to lose" keep telling yourself that. louisville got out played.
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                        • TPowell
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-21-08
                          • 18842

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GOIRISH
                          Ya "trying to lose" keep telling yourself that. louisville got out played.
                          lol did you watch the same game I did? It took you 5 overtimes to beat a team who can't CLOSE. I wouldn't have been happy if UL won this game anyway. Shitty game
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                          • TPowell
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-21-08
                            • 18842

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                            Zona.

                            Lost one game they shouldn't because the prima-donna's at UCLA decided to play.

                            6 in RPI
                            Top 10 SOS
                            Rocked Miami by 19 on a neutral court. (The Reggie Johnson thing only has Merit, if you are willing to believe that Miami would rail Duke by even more if he actually played a significant role when they played).

                            Keep in mind the PAC has a winning combined record vs. the other 5 major conferences. Also has a combined winning record vs every conference rated ahead of them in RPI.

                            One thing they can do is win close games consistently this year. Only thing keeping them from dominating is the constant spotting of opponents 10-15 pts to start the game.


                            I don't see it Chalky. Lot of talent but too young
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                            • Cuse0323
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                              • 12-09-09
                              • 30169

                              #15
                              The leads Zona gives up at the beginning of games is mind boggling, I think they have the talent to be the top team but half the time they look lost out there.
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                              • TPowell
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-21-08
                                • 18842

                                #16
                                I really think Butler cuts down the nets this year. Unless the selection committee penetrates them, they match up well with ANY team almost.
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                                • Cuse0323
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                                  • 12-09-09
                                  • 30169

                                  #17
                                  The Syracuse Zone will win it all this year if we get Dirty South back, no team has shit for offense and we force you to shoot threes and force turnovers. Once James is back, the offense will be back as well. No other 6'6 point guards leading the way, leading the nation in assists and the ability to defend and score. Kiss the ring, come April.
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                                  • ChalkyDog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 10-02-11
                                    • 9598

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                    I don't see it Chalky. Lot of talent but too young
                                    They're a mind fukk. With all the bullshit I just said, I think them laying 13.5 against Cal tomorrow is asinine. I can't explain it.

                                    No dominant team. The way the bracket falls with say a lot. If anyone gets anything resembling the Kansas cakewalk to into April of last year, it wont matter.

                                    Right now I think Wisky and Illinois might be 2 of the toughest outs in the dance.
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                                    • TPowell
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-21-08
                                      • 18842

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                      The Syracuse Zone will win it all this year if we get Dirty South back, no team has shit for offense and we force you to shoot threes and force turnovers. Once James is back, the offense will be back as well. No other 6'6 point guards leading the way, leading the nation in assists and the ability to defend and score. Kiss the ring, come April.

                                      I'll guess a Sweet 16 or Elite 8. No Final 4 though. A sharp shooting mid major team could very easily knock the Orange out early IMO.
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                                      • Cuse0323
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                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 30169

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                        I'll guess a Sweet 16 or Elite 8. No Final 4 though. A sharp shooting mid major team could very easily knock the Orange out early IMO.
                                        Wouldn't be surprised at all but this years team has won close games and has the D to carry the way. For Syracuse it's all MCW and Triche, if they shoot well, we win and if they're off it will be a battle. C.J. Fair is also one of the quietest top players in CBB. I wouldn't take much from the regular season this year, Louisville still has as good a shot as any though I really wouldn't trust Siva.
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                                        • TPowell
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-21-08
                                          • 18842

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                          Wouldn't be surprised at all but this years team has won close games and has the D to carry the way. For Syracuse it's all MCW and Triche, if they shoot well, we win and if they're off it will be a battle. C.J. Fair is also one of the quietest top players in CBB. I wouldn't take much from the regular season this year, Louisville still has as good a shot as any though I really wouldn't trust Siva.
                                          I don't see it, This UL team CANNOT CLOSE GAMES. Unless they get up big and hang on, they can't beat elite teams
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                                          • Cuse0323
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 12-09-09
                                            • 30169

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by TPowell
                                            I don't see it, This UL team CANNOT CLOSE GAMES. Unless they get up big and hang on, they can't beat elite teams
                                            Yeah I don't see it either but figured I'd be nice. Siva can't do much with the offense around him. Dieng, Behanan are good but not really threats offensively. It's really either Smith or Siva. Blackshear needs to give them something offensively and Hancock can't be chucking threes all game.
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                                            • MoneyLineDawg
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 13253

                                              #23
                                              Anyone can win it this year more than ever before in recent memory......About 30 teams that can each beat eachother any given game

                                              So much parity, total crapshoot......Gunna be a 1 seed, a 4 seed, a 6 seed and a 9 seed or some shit in the final 4 and it's pretty much impossible to pinpoint em at this point

                                              See who gets hot around conference tourney time and ride em through the tourney is all you can do this season
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                                              • Ralphie1412
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-29-08
                                                • 13963

                                                #24
                                                It took you this game to figure this out? They three game skid with Siva non existent told it all.
                                                "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
                                                Goat Milk
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                                                • raydog
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-07-07
                                                  • 6984

                                                  #25
                                                  lolz...arizona luckboxed a few games or they wouldnt even be ranked.. they are a 1 and out, 2 if they get more ref help and have overachieved like a mofo...the so called "great coaches" have proven to be asshats who cant control their talent (mich/ind)...butler doesnt have the athletes and nobody in the country wants to play miami...bottom line
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                                                  • CarpeDime
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 09-01-09
                                                    • 7873

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by raydog
                                                    lolz...arizona luckboxed a few games or they wouldnt even be ranked.. they are a 1 and out, 2 if they get more ref help and have overachieved like a mofo...the so called "great coaches" have proven to be asshats who cant control their talent (mich/ind)...butler doesnt have the athletes and nobody in the country wants to play miami...bottom line
                                                    ive been fading arizona and oregon all conf season long

                                                    now tomorrow......13.5??????? is there something i'm not getting here?? 13.5? how can you not take cal big?
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                                                    • Emily_Haines
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-14-09
                                                      • 15917

                                                      #27
                                                      That was the best game I think I have ever seen. You had the Irish with their best two players fouled out make a double miracle to come back and tie it. With all there stars fouled out it was up to the stiffs come through in OT. What made the game so great was all the dumb shit Louisville would do and how mad Pitino would get and his sideline meltdowns while Brey was laughing and having a good time.
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                                                      • TPowell
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-21-08
                                                        • 18842

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ralphie1412
                                                        It took you this game to figure this out? They three game skid with Siva non existent told it all.

                                                        how is it Siva's fault that we couldn't run a decent set with him OUT OF THE GAME. This game rests dually on Russ Smith and Pitino's shoulders. TRULY, the worst example of closing I've ever saw. We've lost games because of END GAME SITUATIONS. The Syracuse, Georgetown, and Notre Dame losses were all games we had the last shot to ice the game.
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                                                        • GOIRISH
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-25-10
                                                          • 2072

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TPowell
                                                          how is it Siva's fault that we couldn't run a decent set with him OUT OF THE GAME. This game rests dually on Russ Smith and Pitino's shoulders. TRULY, the worst example of closing I've ever saw. We've lost games because of END GAME SITUATIONS. The Syracuse, Georgetown, and Notre Dame losses were all games we had the last shot to ice the game.
                                                          Didnt siva get fouled out in like the 4th overtime?
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #30
                                                            Everybody just settle down,
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                                                            • InTheDrink
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-23-09
                                                              • 23983

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TPowell
                                                              I really think Butler cuts down the nets this year. Unless the selection committee penetrates them, they match up well with ANY team almost.


                                                              butler wont even win the a10
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                                                              • TPowell
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-21-08
                                                                • 18842

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by InTheDrink


                                                                butler wont even win the a10

                                                                the penetrates could barely win the Horizon league and made it to the title game...... think about that idiot
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                                                                • InTheDrink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-23-09
                                                                  • 23983

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TPowell
                                                                  the penetrates could barely win the Horizon league and made it to the title game...... think about that idiot
                                                                  butler fukkin blows pal

                                                                  youre a fukkin joke
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                                                                  • tto827
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-01-12
                                                                    • 9078

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I was looking to bump this thread and you did it for me. Missing 10 FT's and turnover troubles are definitely the signs of a well coached team

                                                                    I love Stevens, but this squad isn't comparable to any of his others that have made tourney runs.
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                                                                    • TPowell
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-21-08
                                                                      • 18842

                                                                      #35
                                                                      what happens in late Feb is useless.
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