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  • brooks85
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-05-09
    • 44709

    #106
    kenflo agrees dhk's injury
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    • vikesbills24
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-18-13
      • 121

      #107
      injuries happen when you train a lot.....I don't get the argument that since it never happened before, it shouldn't of happened.
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      • Russian Rocket
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-02-12
        • 43910

        #108
        Originally posted by BIGDAY
        Fitch will bully and smother Maia.

        Not a difficult fight to cap at all.
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        • Hannibal
          SBR MVP
          • 05-15-11
          • 1055

          #109
          i'm just saying it wasnt a complete fluke where his ribs just popped for no reason

          maia was able to pressure a clinch guy hard enough that he hurt himself
          maybe on another occasion kim wouldnt have been hurt, but it doesnt change the fact that maia was able to pressure him in a way that he never experienced
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          • Russian Rocket
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-02-12
            • 43910

            #110
            Originally posted by Hannibal
            i'm just saying it wasnt a complete fluke where his ribs just popped for no reason

            maia was able to pressure a clinch guy hard enough that he hurt himself
            maybe on another occasion kim wouldnt have been hurt, but it doesnt change the fact that maia was able to pressure him in a way that he never experienced
            we just saying he's gonna get smothered this time around
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            • Hannibal
              SBR MVP
              • 05-15-11
              • 1055

              #111
              maybe..but not worth -200
              you're basically betting on one guy's strength to beat another guy's strength
              I dont remember ever seeing Maia get laid on, grinded out, or out positioned on the mat

              I think only weidman was able to lay on maia but weidman is huge and could probably lay on anyone like that
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              • MD
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-31-12
                • 9728

                #112
                Originally posted by Hannibal
                maybe..but not worth -200
                you're basically betting on one guy's strength to beat another guy's strength
                I dont remember ever seeing Maia get laid on, grinded out, or out positioned on the mat

                I think only weidman was able to lay on maia but weidman is huge and could probably lay on anyone like that
                Weidman was able to out-position Maia because of his unbelievable ground skill, not his size; they were both severely gassed, also, but there's no way to know who that benefits the most.
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                • Russian Rocket
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-02-12
                  • 43910

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Hannibal
                  maybe..but not worth -200
                  you're basically betting on one guy's strength to beat another guy's strength
                  I dont remember ever seeing Maia get laid on, grinded out, or out positioned on the mat

                  I think only weidman was able to lay on maia but weidman is huge and could probably lay on anyone like that
                  Fitch aint' weidman...Fitch is gonna bring it from the first minute...
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                  • Hannibal
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-15-11
                    • 1055

                    #114
                    Was maia really out positioned or did weidman just sit in his guard?
                    i've seen fitch give up his back but maia is usually in a dominant or neutral position on the mat
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                    • Russian Rocket
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-02-12
                      • 43910

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Hannibal
                      Was maia really out positioned or did weidman just sit in his guard?
                      i've seen fitch give up his back but maia is usually in a dominant or neutral position on the mat
                      hey good luck with your Maia bet
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                      • MD
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-31-12
                        • 9728

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Hannibal
                        Was maia really out positioned or did weidman just sit in his guard?
                        i've seen fitch give up his back but maia is usually in a dominant or neutral position on the mat
                        I know for a fact that Weidman had side control for a while. No idea what other positions he had.
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                        • brooks85
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 44709

                          #117
                          I had a big amount on maia and story just starting round 2, I can't bring myself to pull the trigger this time around
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                          • Hannibal
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-15-11
                            • 1055

                            #118
                            Originally posted by MD
                            Weidman was able to out-position Maia because of his unbelievable ground skill, not his size; they were both severely gassed, also, but there's no way to know who that benefits the most.

                            thats what scares me the most
                            skillwise, i know maia can hang with fitch in the grappling phase
                            but maia fades and fitch doesnt
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                            • Vaughany
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 03-07-10
                              • 45563

                              #119
                              Originally posted by vikesbills24
                              Betting on Maia is laughable. He's a novice on his feet, and extremely adept on the ground. Jon Fitch will not let Maia take him down, if he does, he has enough ability to get back up. Don't let the Hendricks fight fool you. Good punch. Fitch would of grinded him pretty good.

                              In my estimation, Fitch should be at -300.
                              Penn was able to take him down so dont see why Maia cant. And Fitch isnt exactly Gokhan Saki neither!
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Hannibal
                                thats what scares me the most
                                skillwise, i know maia can hang with fitch in the grappling phase
                                but maia fades and fitch doesnt
                                yep, only reason I'm staying away from Maia
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                                • Russian Rocket
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-02-12
                                  • 43910

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  yep, only reason I'm staying away from Maia
                                  amazing highlighting technique
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                    amazing highlighting technique
                                    grazie, took many years of practice
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                                    • Russian Rocket
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-02-12
                                      • 43910

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      grazie, took many years of practice
                                      Gracie it's actually spelled out
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                                      • vikesbills24
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-18-13
                                        • 121

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        Penn was able to take him down so dont see why Maia cant. And Fitch isnt exactly Gokhan Saki neither!
                                        he's light years ahead of maia in terms of kickboxing technique and ability. agreed about penn, penn is a freak of nature. that was a good fight. I still think Maia just doesn't matchup well vs. Fitch.

                                        Like I said, he's getting incredibly underrated because of the loss to Hendricks. He's a stylist nightmare for a lot of fighters because he just wears you down with his wrestling and pace.
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                                        • pouyasophy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-11-13
                                          • 1665

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                          Fitch aint' weidman...Fitch is gonna bring it from the first minute...

                                          This is very true. Weidman's a top 3 MW. Fitch isn't a top 5 WW.
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                                          • Sacrelicious
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-29-12
                                            • 5984

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by pouyasophy
                                            This is very true. Weidman's a top 3 MW. Fitch isn't a top 5 WW.
                                            Yes, he is. I put him just behind GSP, Hendricks and Condit, and Condit is debatable. Depending on whos "ratings" you go by, most have him around 5th.
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                                            • KushMoney
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 07-11-11
                                              • 658

                                              #127
                                              Fitch because AKA gym is on a roll right now.


                                              Fitch back to his blanketing ways.
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                                              • IncomeSports
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 02-01-13
                                                • 17

                                                #128
                                                Fitch has some of the best if not the best submission defense in the game. Should be an intresting match.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by IncomeSports
                                                  Fitch has some of the best if not the best submission defense in the game. Should be an intresting match.
                                                  Indeed, but then he's never thought somebody with the submission game that Maia has. The like of Erick Silva, Chris Wilson, P.Thiago, Gono, Ben Saunders, Mike Pierce and Hendricks were never going to be a threat in that respect
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                    Gracie it's actually spelled out
                                                    Que?!
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                                                    • JKD
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-04-13
                                                      • 149

                                                      #131
                                                      Hmmm, I'm on the other side. I was big on Fitch>Erik Silva and a lot of people thought I was an idiot, so I in no way underestimate Fitch's skillset at all. But if this fight had been made prior to that, the odds would have been very different. All of a sudden Fitch is apparently unstoppable, and that simply isn't the case, no one is, and the person best suited to doing it is Maia. Prior to the Silva fight that was pretty much the consensus, but now all of a sudden there's been some collective amnesia based on him beating an entirely different kinda fighter in a favourable match-up.

                                                      At 170 Maia is a grappling beast; DHK is much more difficult to takedown than Fitch and Maia got him down easily straight off the bat. Story too, though his tdd is always awful, so that gets little credence other than to show that Maia's gone back to what he's good at. +400 on Maia sub is like a gift from the gods. Your money bro, but I'd at least hedge on the sub.

                                                      Fitch is unsubbable like Leben used to be un-ko'able, giving up his back like free shots to the chin; he's getting cocky at this point and basically asking for it.
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                                                      • Big Bear
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-01-11
                                                        • 43253

                                                        #132
                                                        is this on pay per view?
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                          is this on pay per view?
                                                          yes
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                                                          • BIGDAY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 02-17-10
                                                            • 48245

                                                            #134
                                                            Fight night BOYS!

                                                            Lets get it pumped up around here!!!
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                                                            • Boxscout
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-20-12
                                                              • 222

                                                              #135
                                                              Decided to tail you, um, I mean POUND IT, since it's -185 at Cantor, which seems like a decent price at this point. Thanks for the pick.
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                                                              • daimoshokage
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-07-11
                                                                • 8935

                                                                #136
                                                                Can't wait for an upcoming epic burial.. CAN'T FUKKING WAIT!!!!
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                                                                • milwaukee mike
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 08-22-07
                                                                  • 26914

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Good luck bigday, i tried my own contest picks today but threw some cash on fitch at -200.

                                                                  I'm thinking about parlaying evans/aldo but that move didn't work so well last time with mayan's guy cain kicking our ass
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                    is this on pay per view?
                                                                    Just pull it up on firstrowsports if you don't want to spend the cash
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                                                                    • BIGDAY
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 02-17-10
                                                                      • 48245

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by daimoshokage
                                                                      Can't wait for an upcoming epic burial.. CAN'T FUKKING WAIT!!!!
                                                                      Chances this fuk stick checks in after Fitch smothers Maia?? +3800
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                                                                      • Wanna Bet On It?
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-17-11
                                                                        • 1032

                                                                        #140



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