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  • ebbearsfb1
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-07-08
    • 18815

    #1
    whats with these "local" threads lately?
    Seen a few lately...

    Don't see much if any benefit with betting with a local especially in a bad economy unless your betting small amounts....

    Its not like if you play at a 5 dimes or Bookmaker you won't get paid in a timely fashion for the most part..



    Honestly what are the benefits ?
    Seems like it's too easy to get stiffed especially if your up 1k plus with a book.
    And no ones going breaking knee caps...
    Can't go to any public authority etc..
    You can lose more than you actually have.. seems like more trouble than its worth..

    Feel like I'd rather play with large amounts in either Vegas or a 5 dimes type book..

    I will say I did play with a local once but was betting small amounts.. I actually knew him and wasn't a friend of a friend.. and worked with his girl so he wasn't gonna go missing on pay day..

    Plus online you can request a pay day any day of the week..


    Clueless
  • Gruntworker
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-12-11
    • 777

    #2
    I'm sure it's not true for everyone, but for the most part I think people who play with locals may not have the $$$ to deposit on an offshore account. With a local they can risk way more then what they have available to them and only deal with the amount they need to settle up or hopefully collect.

    If you can call it that, I guess that would be a benefit. I almost got stiffed once and will never go that route again.
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    • coop
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-11-11
      • 616

      #3
      Established, solid locals take large bets from people with expendable income that do it as a hobby. Larger than most people on the forum's average bet.

      You get paid same day every week and there is literally no risk versus the very small risk at playing at 5dimes, Heritage. Plus there are payout fees, hassle, etc.
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      • InTheDrink
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-23-09
        • 23983

        #4
        bears let me know if you need to make some plays

        i'll send someone over to make sure you're taken care of

        top notch service...best in the business
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        • No coincidences
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-18-10
          • 76300

          #5
          Originally posted by coop
          Established, solid locals take large bets from people with expendable income that do it as a hobby. Larger than most people on the forum's average bet.

          You get paid same day every week and there is literally no risk versus the very small risk at playing at 5dimes, Heritage. Plus there are payout fees, hassle, etc.
          I don't know if I'd go that far.
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          • pokernut9999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-25-07
            • 12757

            #6
            Played with locals for over 30 years and everyone was and is rock solid. Good locals take more action than you guys could ever dream of.

            More people bet with locals than offshore
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            • MoneyLineDawg
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-01-09
              • 13253

              #7
              If you have a local you have played with for a while or trust it is much better than online betting overall

              I have been with the same local for 3 years now and he'll let me keep a tab running week to week (even though he still meets everyone once a week) as long as it's not too big one way or the other.....He also uses Bovada lines which is great for a dog bettor such as myself for the most part

              Also, half points only cost 10 cents (-120) even on 3, 7 and, 10 which is nice to have in the back pocket

              Only downside to me really is I can't bet exotics, futures, crazy teasers and longshot parlays which is what I like to have fun with online
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              • InTheDrink
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-23-09
                • 23983

                #8
                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                If you have a local you have played with for a while or trust it is much better than online betting overall

                I have been with the same local for 3 years now and he'll let me keep a tab running week to week as long as it's not too big one way or the other.....He also uses Bovada lines which is great for a dog bettor such as myself for the most part

                Also, half points only cost 10 cents even on 3, 7 and, 10 which is nice to have in the back pocket

                Only downside to me really is betting exotics, futures, crazy teasers and parlays which is what I like to have fun with online
                i havent run into any like that with the emergence of PPH sites

                upside is that locals can offer live betting now if you're into that kinda thing....except the vig is stupid to do it
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                • coop
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-11-11
                  • 616

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  I don't know if I'd go that far.
                  Well, obviously there is a very minimal risk if you're betting with an established local. Poor choice of words, but definitely not as much with processors getting hit and the internet gambling laws.

                  I do tend to agree with ebbears, if you're on gambling forums and such, you clearly know how to make an account, deposit, the payout process, etc. I wouldn't really see why you would prefer a local. I'd say it's most likely because it's out of habit. Been betting with the guy for years - If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But there are more betting options and futures offshore. I think the reason so many people use a local is because - have you ever tried explaining to a casual fan/bettor the process of getting set up at an offshore book? They look at you like you have ten heads.
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                  • pokernut9999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-25-07
                    • 12757

                    #10
                    Your in the Greenville area right MoneyLine ?
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                    • MoneyLineDawg
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-01-09
                      • 13253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by InTheDrink
                      i havent run into any like that with the emergence of PPH sites

                      upside is that locals can offer live betting now if you're into that kinda thing....except the vig is stupid to do it
                      He's old school.....Uses a text system and sends us lines every day.....Or we just go check bovada and send in our bets and he will confirm

                      I think he will be shifting to PPH which is good for live betting (I love it) like you said, but he might get rid of half points only costing 10 cents on key numbers
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                      • MoneyLineDawg
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-01-09
                        • 13253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pokernut9999
                        Your in the Greenville area right MoneyLine ?
                        Nahhh back home on the Jersey Shore but when I was in school in South Carolina it was very easy to find a bookie.....Not sure about Greenville area, but I'm sure they're out there

                        Are you from Gville?
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                        • darkhat
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-18-10
                          • 5722

                          #13
                          obv pros and cons to both sides in theory

                          one thing that keeps you a little more responsible offshore at least

                          you can only bet what you deposit, if you are a normal bettor anyway

                          can't owe money to 5dimes for the most part etc

                          can owe to the local and not have it
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                          • pokernut9999
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-25-07
                            • 12757

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                            Nahhh back home on the Jersey Shore but when I was in school in South Carolina it was very easy to find a bookie.....Not sure about Greenville area, but I'm sure they're out there

                            Are you from Gville?
                            Live in the area now , bookies are a dime a dozen here with high limits. Have one that even takes Nascar bets for thousands.
                            Quite a few will take bets up to 10k from guys they know that can afford it. They got killed this year on Clemson games.
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                            • InTheDrink
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-23-09
                              • 23983

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                              He's old school.....Uses a text system and sends us lines every day.....Or we just go check bovada and send in our bets and he will confirm

                              I think he will be shifting to PPH which is good for live betting (I love it) like you said, but he might get rid of half points only costing 10 cents on key numbers
                              yeah i havent been on the text system for about four years....the guy was unreal...would let us pick a site that was tracked on vegas insider and let us go off those lines if you stuck with em all the time....he got out of it because he was exhausted...no shit

                              the pph site i use now has 5 cent lines for football and hoops but 20 cents on baseball...i guess just not enough guys playing baseball
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                              • thetrinity
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-25-11
                                • 22430

                                #16
                                im a proponent of having 1 local and at least 1 offshore.
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                                • ebbearsfb1
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-07-08
                                  • 18815

                                  #17
                                  Lot of interesting perspectives
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                                  • downsouth
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-13-11
                                    • 11580

                                    #18
                                    You should have a combo of the 2.

                                    Of course there is risk either way. If your playing with some mickey mouse local that thinks this is a get rich quick scheme then he is going to stiff you if you win anything of substance.

                                    If you find a solid, long timer than generally you will be paid as he does not want to risk losing other clients over stiffing or having someone go to the police or whatever else people do when stiffed.
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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pokernut9999

                                      Good locals take more action than you guys could ever dream of.

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                                      • thetrinity
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-25-11
                                        • 22430

                                        #20
                                        downsouths right, majority of locals are schmucks, be very careful. took me about 4 of em to find a good one.
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                                        • InTheDrink
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-23-09
                                          • 23983

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                          Lot of interesting perspectives
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                                          • ebbearsfb1
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-07-08
                                            • 18815

                                            #22
                                            nothing like a good quality italian dinner..


                                            some of the best food on earth
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                                            • falconticket
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-05-10
                                              • 3414

                                              #23
                                              Most kids on SBR only dream of having a local.
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                                              • allabout the $$$
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-17-10
                                                • 9843

                                                #24
                                                local is the best. pph site get all of the options offshore and get cash in hand on tuesday. if you want cash after game go with cash place the bet collect that night or next morning. whats better than that????
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                                                • thetrinity
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-25-11
                                                  • 22430

                                                  #25
                                                  good rule of thumb if nobody knows the guy then hes probably a stiff/small time get rich quick type.

                                                  make sure you get referred by someone who has known and played with him for years.
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                                                  • lakerboy
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                    • 94379

                                                    #26
                                                    Always have locals.
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                                                    • thetrinity
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-25-11
                                                      • 22430

                                                      #27
                                                      any guys who have locals whats their minimum bet out of curiosity?

                                                      my locals is 30 he uses pph though.
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                                                      • allabout the $$$
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-17-10
                                                        • 9843

                                                        #28
                                                        minimum is 10 max is 25 k been dealing with my local for 20+ years
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                                                        • TheCentaur
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-28-11
                                                          • 8108

                                                          #29
                                                          Offshore pros:
                                                          -Better odds
                                                          -Freeplays, free contests
                                                          -easy to make a bet
                                                          -walmart giftcards from sbr
                                                          Offshore cons:
                                                          -illegal
                                                          -have to post up so funds are at risk
                                                          -profits may be used for human trafficking and such
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                                                          • lunchbawks
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-31-10
                                                            • 12873

                                                            #30
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                                                            • Smoke
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-09-09
                                                              • 48111

                                                              #31
                                                              So you can cancel your bets like fakerboy after the line moves against you
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                                                              • allabout the $$$
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 04-17-10
                                                                • 9843

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                                                Offshore pros:
                                                                -Better odds-can get very good odds with the right local
                                                                -Freeplays, free contests - my guy will give out christmas freeplays, no contests though, no rollover on the fp
                                                                -easy to make a bet-- pph site
                                                                -walmart giftcards from sbr-- who really cares?
                                                                Offshore cons:
                                                                -illegal
                                                                -have to post up so funds are at risk -- good local you never have to worry
                                                                -profits may be used for human trafficking and such
                                                                offshore can be a major headache
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Credit, most are broke
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                                                                  • darkhat
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-18-10
                                                                    • 5722

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                    Credit, most are broke
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                                      any guys who have locals whats their minimum bet out of curiosity?

                                                                      my locals is 30 he uses pph though.
                                                                      min 100.
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