When was the last time the Yankees were this big of an underdog?

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  • The Giant
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    • 01-21-12
    • 21480

    #1
    When was the last time the Yankees were this big of an underdog?
    Has it happened in the last 16 years or so? I would find it hard to believe.

    No way in the playoffs.

    The only way I could see it is in a meaningless September game where they were resting all their players.
  • Louisvillekid1
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-17-07
    • 52143

    #2
    Exactly why I can't pass them up today...

    When's the last time you could get 4.5/1 on a Yanks/Over parlay...
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    • ethandavis2
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-24-08
      • 307

      #3
      im with u guys, its very tempting
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      • ermzzy
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-22-12
        • 863

        #4
        only an idiot would bet yankees tonight, this is why they are. no1 is overlooking them IT IS WHAT IT IS.
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        • The Giant
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          • 01-21-12
          • 21480

          #5
          I'm in no way trying to talk anyone to betting the Yankees.

          I'm certainly not betting them.

          I was just looking for some historical data.
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          • ZetaPsi808
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-18-08
            • 12119

            #6
            they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
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            • The Giant
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              • 01-21-12
              • 21480

              #7
              Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
              they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
              Really? Who was pitching?
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              • krk1030
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-13-08
                • 17610

                #8
                I know i've seen them +200 a couple times with like rookie call ups pitching against aces, but thats about it.
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                • Brock Landers
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 06-30-08
                  • 45359

                  #9
                  This team is "Yankees" in name only...
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                  • CanuckG
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-23-10
                    • 21978

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                    they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
                    Didnt play Detroit in September
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                    • The Giant
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-21-12
                      • 21480

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                      they were +175 when they played the tigers in september this year
                      I can't believe you sent me on a wild goose chase, Zeta.

                      They haven't even played Detroit since August....hmmm.... looks like they were +167 with Nova against Verlander.
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                      • krk1030
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-13-08
                        • 17610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                        This team is "Yankees" in name only...
                        And all the players.....
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                        • Louisvillekid1
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-17-07
                          • 52143

                          #13
                          Zeta making shit up...

                          Yankees bats were on fire than anyway, no way it would of been +175
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                          • CanuckG
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                            • 12-23-10
                            • 21978

                            #14
                            August 6th Yankees closed at +167

                            WP:
                            J. Verlander (12-7)
                            LP: I. Nova (10-6)

                            Detroit won 7-2
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                            • Louisvillekid1
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-17-07
                              • 52143

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CanuckG
                              August 6th Yankees closed at +167

                              WP:
                              J. Verlander (12-7)
                              LP: I. Nova (10-6)

                              Detroit won 7-2
                              Good Research...
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                              • The Giant
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                                • 01-21-12
                                • 21480

                                #16
                                In June, these two pitchers faced each other in Detroit.

                                Hughes and Verlander.

                                Yankees were +160. Yankees won 5-1.

                                Irrelevant and interesting, all rolled up into one.
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                                • milwaukee mike
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-22-07
                                  • 26914

                                  #17
                                  parlayed yankees with over

                                  I think there's at least a 20% chance the yankees score 5+ and win

                                  tigers should get a couple
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65661

                                    #18
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                                    • ZetaPsi808
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                                      • 09-18-08
                                      • 12119

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                      Zeta making shit up...

                                      Yankees bats were on fire than anyway, no way it would of been +175
                                      lkid settle down pal

                                      do a little research yourself

                                      it was in august not september as canuck pointed out
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                                      • Mikail
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-19-09
                                        • 21689

                                        #20
                                        answer this: when was the last time the Yankees sucked this bad?
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                                        • Louisvillekid1
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-17-07
                                          • 52143

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                          lkid settle down pal

                                          do a little research yourself

                                          it was in august not september as canuck pointed out
                                          Sorry pal, you're right...

                                          Just busting balls...
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                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-17-07
                                            • 52143

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                            parlayed yankees with over

                                            I think there's at least a 20% chance the yankees score 5+ and win

                                            tigers should get a couple
                                            This is the play tonight...

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                                            • The Giant
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-21-12
                                              • 21480

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mikail
                                              answer this: when was the last time the Yankees sucked this bad?
                                              They don't suck. They won the AL East, and are in the ALCS.

                                              They are just in a catastrophic hitting drought.

                                              The pitching has been solid.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65661

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Giant
                                                They don't suck. They won the AL East, and are in the ALCS.

                                                They are just in a catastrophic hitting drought.

                                                The pitching has been solid.
                                                Defense has blown moneky chunks too
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                                                • odog11
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-14-11
                                                  • 3874

                                                  #25
                                                  How bout' over by itself? If you want to fade Verlander why not have Hughes as your back up plan.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65661

                                                    #26
                                                    Brett Gardner LF
                                                    Ichiro Suzuki RF
                                                    Mark Teixeira 1B
                                                    Robinson Cano 2B
                                                    Raul Ibanez DH
                                                    Russell Martin C
                                                    Eric Chavez 3B
                                                    Curtis Granderson CF
                                                    Eduardo Nunez SS
                                                    (Phil Hughes P)
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                                                    • Pete0
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-09-10
                                                      • 3849

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The Giant
                                                      In June, these two pitchers faced each other in Detroit.

                                                      Hughes and Verlander.

                                                      Yankees were +160. Yankees won 5-1.

                                                      Irrelevant and interesting, all rolled up into one.

                                                      hmmm... interesting...
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                                                      • Mikail
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 07-19-09
                                                        • 21689

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Giant
                                                        They don't suck. They won the AL East, and are in the ALCS.

                                                        They are just in a catastrophic hitting drought.

                                                        The pitching has been solid.
                                                        call me crazy for describing a baseball team who hasn't been able to hit the ball let alone score runs lately a team that sucks!
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                                                        • The Giant
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-21-12
                                                          • 21480

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Mikail
                                                          call me crazy for describing a baseball team who hasn't been able to hit the ball let alone score runs lately a team that sucks!
                                                          No worries. From reading your posts, I've established you're crazy long ago.
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                                                          • Mikail
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-19-09
                                                            • 21689

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by The Giant
                                                            No worries. From reading your posts, I've established you're crazy long ago.
                                                            yea crazy me a winning sports capper. Go figure. Some of us have a clue. Looks like your not one of us.
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                                                            • Pete0
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-09-10
                                                              • 3849

                                                              #31
                                                              Verlander hasn't had anywhere near that success against the Yankees over the last two years. The Tigers ace faced the Yankees twice in 2011 and three times in 2012 and has nothing more than a 1-1 record with three no-decisions.

                                                              Here are those five games:
                                                              March 31, 2011, Opening Day at Yankee Stadium: Verlander went six innings and allowed three runs on three hits, walking four and whiffing eight. The key blow was a three-run homer by Mark Teixeira. Verlander (114 pitches) earned a no-decision, but the Tigers lost, 6-3.

                                                              May 2, 2011, in Detroit: Verlander again went six innings allowing three runs, this time on eight hits. Once again he walked four and whiffed eight. These were the only two games in 2011 that Verlander proffered as many as four walks. The key blow was a two-run double by the now-retired Jorge Posada. Verlander (137 pitches) earned a no-decision, but the Tigers lost, 5-3. Like in the opener, Joba Chamberlain earned the win in relief.

                                                              April 27, 2012, in New York: Once again, Verlander lasted just six innings (102 pitches) but the Yankees this time got to him for four earned runs, five overall, on seven hits. He didn't walk anyone but only struck out four. The key blows were homers by Russell Martin and Alex Rodriguez. It was another no-decision for Verlander, but another loss for the Tigers, this time, 7-6.

                                                              June 3, 2012, in Detroit: Verlander went 6.1 innings and struggled, allowing nine hits and five runs, three earned. He walked four and whiffed four throwing 114 pitches. He took the loss as the Tigers dropped a 5-1 decision to complete-game winner, Phil Hughes. The key blows were a Robinson Cano triple, and home runs from Derek Jeter and A-Rod.

                                                              August 6, 2012, in Detroit: Verlander was overpowering in an eight-inning performance striking out 14 Yankees. He did allow nine hits but walked only one while allowing two runs, both unearned. Curtis Granderson, Teixeira, and Ichiro Suzuki each struck out three times. Verlander and the Tigers won, 7-2.



                                                              Bottom line numbers
                                                              • Verlander went 1-1-3 while the Tigers were 1-4 during those five regular-season starts.
                                                              • Verlander's ERA was 3.64 and his WHIP was 1.526.
                                                              • Verlander pitched 32.1 innings allowing 13 earned runs on 36 hits, including five homers.
                                                              • He walked 13 and struck out 38.
                                                              • He threw 589 pitches, 54.3 percent were fastballs. His fastball averaged 89.6 mph peaking at 100.3.
                                                              • Overall, the Yankees swung and missed on 65 pitches.
                                                              • Yankee batters hit .279, slugged .481, and had an OPS of .823.
                                                              Alex Rodriguez has hit .455 against Verlander the last two seasons with two homers, a double, and three RBIs including 4 for 6 this season.
                                                              • Verlander owns a 5-4 record and 3.74 ERA in 13 career starts against the Yankees.
                                                              Keep in mind, if the Yankees can once again get to Verlander, waiting in Game 4 is CC Sabathia who is 3-1-1 against Detroit over the last two seasons and perhaps a whole new ALCS.
                                                              Bill Chuck is the founder and writer of Billy-Ball.com and is the editor and a contributor to BaseballAnalytics.org

                                                              Source : Yahoo sports
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                                                              • BiffTFinancial
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-29-09
                                                                • 22670

                                                                #32
                                                                from twitter:

                                                                The last time the Yankees were +1 1/2 and cheaper than (-130) was 176 games ago in Tampa when they sat everyone. Before that, 8/31/11 @ BOS.
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                                                                • ZetaPsi808
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-18-08
                                                                  • 12119

                                                                  #33
                                                                  its all good
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mikail
                                                                    call me crazy for describing a baseball team who hasn't been able to hit the ball let alone score runs lately a team that sucks!
                                                                    and we all know that every trend continues into eternity right?


                                                                    yankees might go down 3-0, they might not.
                                                                    either way yankees/over is a smart play for this game, they are still quite capable of scoring runs in bunches
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