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  • SBR Lou
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    • 08-02-07
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    #36
    Originally posted by Thor4140
    his fight with DelaHoya was very close. A terrible fight but close.
    If anyone was robbed in that fight, it was Floyd for not getting the unanimous decision. Oscar completely abandoned his jab, and would occasionally flurry to the excitement of the crowd a la Pac, and land next to nothing on Pretty Boy Floyd. He was outclassed and I'm happy to at least see you not say that you thought the wrong man won the (lopsided) bout.
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    • firstclass
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      • 12-10-08
      • 2653

      #37
      to much cash involved... this fight will happen, when is the question...
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      • Vegas39
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        • 09-22-11
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        #38
        Lou must be president of Floyd's fan club
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        • Thor4140
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          • 02-09-08
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          #39
          Originally posted by SBR Lou
          If anyone was robbed in that fight, it was Floyd for not getting the unanimous decision. Oscar completely abandoned his jab, and would occasionally flurry to the excitement of the crowd a la Pac, and land next to nothing on Pretty Boy Floyd. He was outclassed and I'm happy to at least see you not say that you thought the wrong man won the (lopsided) bout.
          i don't think anyone won the fight and we all should have all gotten a refund.
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          • Thor4140
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            • 02-09-08
            • 22296

            #40
            what exact fight has Pac all of a the sudden shown people he has had this big decline? Because he lost his last fight while winning 9 or ten of the 12 rounds against an undefeated fighter? Please guys just cause he has a L for the last fight doesn't mean he is declining. it is almost as silly as people saying Floyd is scared of him.
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            • SBR Lou
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              • 08-02-07
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              #41
              Originally posted by Thor4140
              what exact fight has Pac all of a the sudden shown people he has had this big decline? Because he lost his last fight while winning 9 or ten of the 12 rounds against an undefeated fighter? Please guys just cause he has a L for the last fight doesn't mean he is declining. it is almost as silly as people saying Floyd is scared of him.
              It could have something to do with the fact that most people also believe Marquez dominated him before that. He didn't do enough in either fight.
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              • RawBillyIce
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                • 02-08-12
                • 2036

                #42
                Marquez won last fight (should have)

                Bradley no

                May weather got smacked and bloodied his last fight
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                • marcoloco
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-05-10
                  • 3986

                  #43
                  4 years ago this was the dream fight, now IF it ever happens it will be 2 guys past their primes
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                  • marcoloco
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                    • 07-05-10
                    • 3986

                    #44
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                    • JamesKim
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                      • 09-03-12
                      • 392

                      #45
                      If Pacquiao started talking some trash, he could hurt Floyd's ego enough to get him to sign.
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                      • Grits n' Gravy
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                        • 06-10-10
                        • 13024

                        #46
                        Floyd will be a reasonable priced favorite and unless he loses his speed in the next 12 months he will win a lopsided decision that won't be reflected in the scorecards so a rematch could be warranted. I like both fighters but Floyd is on another level than Manny. Bigger, faster and much smarter in the ring. Ever since Manny became bible boy he lost something in the ring.
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                        • jsmithj88
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                          • 12-27-08
                          • 3591

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                          what exact fight has Pac all of a the sudden shown people he has had this big decline? Because he lost his last fight while winning 9 or ten of the 12 rounds against an undefeated fighter? Please guys just cause he has a L for the last fight doesn't mean he is declining. it is almost as silly as people saying Floyd is scared of him.
                          he fights these tomato cans for less money ..... why?
                          cuz he knows hes better and will win easily

                          so the only conclusion is that he knows that pacman has a serious chance of beating him
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                          • GunShard
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                            • 03-05-10
                            • 10031

                            #48
                            If this fight doesn't happen, then Boxing sucks.

                            At least in MMA, great fights are made.
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                            • SBR Lou
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                              • 08-02-07
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by RawBillyIce
                              May weather got smacked and bloodied his last fight
                              He stood and traded by choice. My view is he knows he's close to the end of the road, so he wants to be in exciting fights and capture more PPV buys for the next time. He could have easily boxed Cotto all day long and outpointed him, which would have made it a boring fight that felt "less close" but would still never be in doubt.
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                              • edawg
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                                • 07-09-11
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                                #50
                                Mayweather 2to1 favorite way to good a counter puncher for Manny! Pacmans only chance is to hurt Floyd early!
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                                • hougigo
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                                  • 06-01-12
                                  • 3665

                                  #51
                                  mayweather, easy money
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                                  • hougigo
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-01-12
                                    • 3665

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                    his fight with DelaHoya was very close. A terrible fight but close.
                                    what'd you watch? the scorecards on boxrec
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                                    • salvador_7764
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-17-10
                                      • 743

                                      #53
                                      Filipino power.
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                                      • hougigo
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                                        • 06-01-12
                                        • 3665

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                        what exact fight has Pac all of a the sudden shown people he has had this big decline? Because he lost his last fight while winning 9 or ten of the 12 rounds against an undefeated fighter? Please guys just cause he has a L for the last fight doesn't mean he is declining. it is almost as silly as people saying Floyd is scared of him.
                                        He obviously has trouble with people who don't come forward, that's evident in his last 3 fights.
                                        His speed is in a decline as he's nowhere near as fast as he used to be.
                                        His last 2 fights he fought in spurts, worse in his fight against Bradley.
                                        9/10 rounds? Come on now
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                                        • SBR Lou
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                                          • 08-02-07
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by hougigo
                                          He obviously has trouble with people who don't come forward, that's evident in his last 3 fights.
                                          His speed is in a decline as he's nowhere near as fast as he used to be.
                                          His last 2 fights he fought in spurts, worse in his fight against Bradley.
                                          9/10 rounds? Come on now
                                          Let's also not glance over the fact that he completely dodged a rematch with Bradley. Maybe he thinks father time will have caught up to Marquez and that he can put him away convincingly in his fourth attempt.
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                                          • Thor4140
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                                            • 02-09-08
                                            • 22296

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by hougigo
                                            He obviously has trouble with people who don't come forward, that's evident in his last 3 fights.
                                            His speed is in a decline as he's nowhere near as fast as he used to be.
                                            His last 2 fights he fought in spurts, worse in his fight against Bradley.
                                            9/10 rounds? Come on now
                                            Yeah 9 or ten rounds. There is a reason why people said it was the biggest rip off in boxing history and as for his speed please. He hasn't lost shit. I never thought he could beat Mayweather but now guys who have no clue and think Bradley really won, are now experts with Manny's speed decline. It is almost as dumb as the guy who thinks Mayweather will kill Manny cause Floyd did a better job with Marquez. Of course not mentioning that Hatton got smoked by Manny while Floyd went 11 with him. Styles make fights.
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                                            • Thor4140
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                                              • 02-09-08
                                              • 22296

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by SBR Lou
                                              Let's also not glance over the fact that he completely dodged a rematch with Bradley. Maybe he thinks father time will have caught up to Marquez and that he can put him away convincingly in his fourth attempt.
                                              why should he fight Bradley again Lou? Everyone but you and this Hougigo guy thinks Bradley won. Fight was so lopsided it would be embarrassing for Manny to fight him again plus the fact nobody would watch it knowing the first match was total bullshit.
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                                              • Thor4140
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                                                • 02-09-08
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by SBR Lou
                                                It could have something to do with the fact that most people also believe Marquez dominated him before that. He didn't do enough in either fight.
                                                Marquez beat him but dominating him is a bit much Lou. As for the Bradley fight yes Manny did enuf to people who call it fair. Your mayweather blinders are amazing.
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                                                • SBR Lou
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                                                  • 08-02-07
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  why should he fight Bradley again Lou? Everyone but you and this Hougigo guy thinks Bradley won. Fight was so lopsided it would be embarrassing for Manny to fight him again plus the fact nobody would watch it knowing the first match was total bullshit.
                                                  He lost his belt and suffered the L. He should have proven beyond any doubt that the decision was a joke and blown Bradley away. He thought he could coast and pick his spots, he was wrong. That's not how the judges saw the fight, even the judge that gave him a two-point advantage. He also seems uncomfortable against good counterpunchers.
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                                                  • edawg
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                                                    • 07-09-11
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                                                    #60
                                                    Lou is right Pacman has problems with counterpunchers and Floyd is the best counterpuncher/defensive fighter since Pernell Whitaker tall order for Pacman really like Floyd if fight ever happens!
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                                                    • hougigo
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                                                      • 06-01-12
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                      Yeah 9 or ten rounds. There is a reason why people said it was the biggest rip off in boxing history and as for his speed please. He hasn't lost shit. I never thought he could beat Mayweather but now guys who have no clue and think Bradley really won, are now experts with Manny's speed decline. It is almost as dumb as the guy who thinks Mayweather will kill Manny cause Floyd did a better job with Marquez. Of course not mentioning that Hatton got smoked by Manny while Floyd went 11 with him. Styles make fights.
                                                      1. Never said he won, 10 rounds is retarded, 9 rounds is pushing it. I don't understand why everybody thought that fight was a blow out.
                                                      And biggest rip off in boxing history? You got to be joking me, it's not even the biggest rip off of the year and it was only in June that they fought.
                                                      And you just proved my point right there with what you said, style's make fights. Counter Punchers are kryptonite to Pac, Marquez proves it time and time again, not once has Pacquiao even come close to a convincing win with Marquez. Mayweather is a superior counter puncher in comparison.
                                                      His lateral movement is gone which also takes away some of the angles that he had a couple of years ago.
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                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                        • 02-09-08
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by hougigo
                                                        1. Never said he won, 10 rounds is retarded, 9 rounds is pushing it. I don't understand why everybody thought that fight was a blow out.
                                                        And biggest rip off in boxing history? You got to be joking me, it's not even the biggest rip off of the year and it was only in June that they fought.
                                                        And you just proved my point right there with what you said, style's make fights. Counter Punchers are kryptonite to Pac, Marquez proves it time and time again, not once has Pacquiao even come close to a convincing win with Marquez. Mayweather is a superior counter puncher in comparison.
                                                        His lateral movement is gone which also takes away some of the angles that he had a couple of years ago.
                                                        i said people said it was the worst judge fight in history. Not me. Anyone who thought Manny lost that fight should either stop watching boxing or stop letting Floyd teabag them while they aare watching a fight. I never said Floyd wouldn't beat him. I always thought Floyd would but to say Manny has lost a lot of speed cause of his last two fights is nuts.
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                                                        • Thor4140
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                                                          • 02-09-08
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by SBR Lou
                                                          He lost his belt and suffered the L. He should have proven beyond any doubt that the decision was a joke and blown Bradley away. He thought he could coast and pick his spots, he was wrong. That's not how the judges saw the fight, even the judge that gave him a two-point advantage. He also seems uncomfortable against good counterpunchers.
                                                          This is about money and it wasn't worth anything for him to beat a fighter 99 percent of the public already knew he beat. PPV would have been awful. This isn't boxing 30 years ago where guys fought to see who is the best.
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                                                          • hougigo
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                                                            • 06-01-12
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                            i said people said it was the worst judge fight in history. Not me. Anyone who thought Manny lost that fight should either stop watching boxing or stop letting Floyd teabag them while they aare watching a fight. I never said Floyd wouldn't beat him. I always thought Floyd would but to say Manny has lost a lot of speed cause of his last two fights is nuts.
                                                            In comparison to his past performances. Even though he's not fighting come forward fighters, his speed and angles are significantly down from what they were from 2 years ago. I pointed out that the last 2, or even 3 fights he had showed it.
                                                            Also people have nothing to compare it too. It's casual fans who say that and are totally oblivious to fights like Rios/Abril or Cloud/Campillo who get no love because they're not famous.
                                                            Floyd's losing his legs too and has to trade more than he's used too, but Pac's slowed down too.
                                                            I'd still put money on Mayweather without even sweating it. Another instance of Sergio vs Chavez Jr where the result isn't as obvious to some pepole as it should be.
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                                                            • jsmithj88
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-27-08
                                                              • 3591

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                              This is about money and it wasn't worth anything for him to beat a fighter 99 percent of the public already knew he beat. PPV would have been awful. This isn't boxing 30 years ago where guys fought to see who is the best.
                                                              yup, what exactly does manny have to prove?
                                                              its not that manny won the fight, he won almost every round
                                                              wat is the selling point?
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                                                              • hougigo
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 06-01-12
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                                yup, what exactly does manny have to prove?
                                                                its not that manny won the fight, he won almost every round
                                                                wat is the selling point?
                                                                I don't understand how people honestly believe that.
                                                                How do people score fights? Do they just look at compubox or Jim Lampley's card and base their opinion on that?
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                                                                • pensfan1919
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 04-08-12
                                                                  • 120

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Pac man may have had a chance 2 or 3 years ago. Would have still lost but would have been competitive.

                                                                  Now Mayweather would win easily.

                                                                  If this fight happens and is at anything less than -200 it will be an easy max bet on Mayweather.
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                                                                  • Hankwins
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                                                                    • 09-17-10
                                                                    • 2232

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I hate the discussion of the fight in general becuase the wait is all about greed so the damn thing can generate a half a billion dollars when ans if it happens.

                                                                    I hope a judge offers maybeweather a 20 million fine in order to avoid jail time for the next criminal offense he has.

                                                                    Mayweather will have another court case in before 2013?
                                                                    Yes-2000
                                                                    no +1900
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                                                                    • Thor4140
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                                                                      • 02-09-08
                                                                      • 22296

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by hougigo
                                                                      I don't understand how people honestly believe that.
                                                                      How do people score fights? Do they just look at compubox or Jim Lampley's card and base their opinion on that?
                                                                      The 99 percent of people who saw Pac win almost every round think you might want to phone your opthamologist and for what it is worth i think Lampley is awful calling a fight. Nice voice but that is where it ends.
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                                                                      • hougigo
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                                                                        • 06-01-12
                                                                        • 3665

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                        The 99 percent of people who saw Pac win almost every round think you might want to phone your opthamologist and for what it is worth i think Lampley is awful calling a fight. Nice voice but that is where it ends.
                                                                        And a large portion of those 99 percent roll with what the T.V says.
                                                                        I think I'll stick with what actually happens
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