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  • ttrace35
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-10
    • 10828

    #1
    The Revenge Of Kevin Kolb
    This guy been a joke to me for 2 years. Maybe the joke is on me. Does Kolb get the last laugh against Vick this week? I'm sure plenty of added motivation.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    I doubt it

    They were lucky to win both games

    Its still a tough game for Phila on road

    I am going with my Boy Mike Vick though
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    • ChalkyDog
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      • 10-02-11
      • 9598

      #3
      Man, Kolb is garbage. He just isn't media hype. Think of it like the Broncos and Tebow. Except Kolb isn't spectacular in the 4th, and he doesn't run, but he is as good as a thrower.

      So, basically - you know - almost exactly like Tebow. Because, with Tebow - the other teams went out of their way to hand the game to the bronocos. Hell, even when Arizona literally handed the game to New England, the best kicker in football shanks the FG, and the Cards win.

      Kolb is garbage. Don't forget. Also, this whole stat about their win record since last season - Kolb wasn't even playing, because he had head trauma.

      That said, they are playing philly and vick, who tend to go out of their way to lose games. It wont have anything to do with Kolb though.
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      • Sportsbetting123
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        • 03-01-08
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        #4
        Kolb can be ok at times, but not good enough to lead any team deep in the playoffs.
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        • oiler
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          • 06-06-09
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          #5
          hes just a quick fix.when the games get important,he will choke
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          • Dark Horse
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            • 12-14-05
            • 13764

            #6
            When's the last time you've seen a team that won 9 of last 11 give up four points at home to a team they beat on the road the year before? This is one of the clearest examples that the oddsmakers handicap public perception, and not the game. Offense isn't flashy. Kolb will just manage the game. The Cardinals strength is the defense, and ability to get to the QB. Vick will spend plenty of time on his back. Cards are very athletic and tough as nails. As mentioned, they have won 9 of their last 11, and still manage to remain under the radar. That includes wins over the Niners, Cowboys, Eagles, and Pats. They use the lack of respect they're getting as motivation, just as during their Superbowl run a few years ago. The quick Zona defense will capitalize on the Eagles inability to protect the ball. Cards win this straight up. Forget the points. The line is off by a TD.
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            • Monte
              SBR MVP
              • 08-21-10
              • 2056

              #7
              Yea sure Dark Horse, NFL lines are often off by a TD. We get it, easy as that.
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              • crustyme
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                • 09-29-10
                • 16896

                #8
                easy win for philly.
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                • Dark Horse
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                  • 12-14-05
                  • 13764

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Monte
                  Yea sure Dark Horse, NFL lines are often off by a TD. We get it, easy as that.
                  Instead of putting words in my mouth, put your money where your mouth is.
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                  • blowseq
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                    • 03-06-09
                    • 1440

                    #10
                    We might see OT here!
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                    • Easy-Rider 66
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                      • 02-14-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                      When's the last time you've seen a team that won 9 of last 11 give up four points at home to a team they beat on the road the year before? This is one of the clearest examples that the oddsmakers handicap public perception, and not the game. Offense isn't flashy. Kolb will just manage the game. The Cardinals strength is the defense, and ability to get to the QB. Vick will spend plenty of time on his back. Cards are very athletic and tough as nails. As mentioned, they have won 9 of their last 11, and still manage to remain under the radar. That includes wins over the Niners, Cowboys, Eagles, and Pats. They use the lack of respect they're getting as motivation, just as during their Superbowl run a few years ago. The quick Zona defense will capitalize on the Eagles inability to protect the ball. Cards win this straight up. Forget the points. The line is off by a TD.


                      Agree that Phil is overvalued, and AZ undervalued. But would say the game should be a pk. Phil is the better team and Kolb is adequate at best. Probably will take the 4 with AZ.
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Monte
                        Yea sure Dark Horse, NFL lines are often off by a TD. We get it, easy as that.
                        i think dark horse is prob one of better ppl you would be wise to listen to as most his post i see make more sense than most around here..i personally felt line last night was off anywhere from 1.5 to 3 points (sorry i leave margin of error room) but i had atl anywhere from -4.5 to -6, which imo was a totally soft nfl line based off perception.. not a td and i would think this gm more in line with a pick'em but i can understand why DH thinks zona should be laying 3.....i have to see what the deal is with all the olineman phi lost on sunday cause im pretty sure by end of gm they were down to 5 healthy bodies, if the guys lost off a already shaky line cant suite up DH line is prob spot on, dont think there be a whole lotta scoring in this one, pretty sure ill be starting alex smith over vick in fantasy this week (smith is playing min horrid secondary after all and all my team needs is a solid qb performance, nothing special and vick huge risk this week and i started him vs balt).....
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                        • ttrace35
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                          • 09-30-10
                          • 10828

                          #13
                          I agree kolb sux. He has happy feet whenever a pass rush. Philly has good pass rush. Kolb is dead meat.
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Will be close
                            Low scoring
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                            • Brock Landers
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                              • 06-30-08
                              • 45359

                              #15
                              Amazing Arizona is 2-0
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                              • RyanLeafOfBets
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                                • 01-03-10
                                • 8164

                                #16
                                Everyone in the world will be on Phili... It's a tarp!
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                                • Monte
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                                  • 08-21-10
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                                  #17
                                  Am not "listening" to silly people, Pinny has Zona +4 +104 so they are at least 3 point dogs.
                                  I don't give a shit about what your opinion is, and if you think Zona wins.
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                                  • k13
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                                    • 07-16-10
                                    • 18104

                                    #18
                                    Line is fine, maybe 1 point too high but that's about it.
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                                    • k13
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                                      • 07-16-10
                                      • 18104

                                      #19
                                      Eagles win.
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                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 19734

                                        #20
                                        zona or pass
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                                        • ChalkyDog
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                                          • 10-02-11
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                                          #21
                                          Also, what revenge does Kolb have? The guy committed fraud with the help of Andy Reid and the Eagles.

                                          The dude got starter, franchise player money. He sold himself as a starting QB in the NFL. He is bench talent getting starter money.

                                          Kolb, if anything, owes Philly.

                                          Arizona has a revenge factor on Philly, but mainly the front office. No idea how you factor that in.
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                                          • ChalkyDog
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                                            • 10-02-11
                                            • 9598

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Monte
                                            Am not "listening" to silly people, Pinny has Zona +4 +104 so they are at least 3 point dogs.
                                            I don't give a shit about what your opinion is, and if you think Zona wins.
                                            Are you saying Pinny is leaning Philly?
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                                            • cant call it
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                                              • 08-29-10
                                              • 8817

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              I doubt it

                                              They were lucky to win both games

                                              Its still a tough game for Phila on road

                                              I am going with my Boy Mike Vick though

                                              JJ, Michael Vick is an african american quarterback which you suggested to never bet your money on.
                                              Has he been to jail? Yes.


                                              WTF coach?
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                                              • Sol Diablo
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                                                • 09-03-12
                                                • 489

                                                #24
                                                Kolb sucks but Arizona's defense is way underrated.

                                                AZ is just trying to play 49er type football dating back to last year and its working. They are 9-2 in their last 11 games.

                                                Play stout defense and special teams, dont turn the ball over.

                                                95% of the people out there said Alex Smith sucks and the 49ers will never win with him before LAST season. If it wasnt for Kyle Wiliams, that guy probably wins the Super Bowl last year.
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                                                • ChalkyDog
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                                                  • 10-02-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                                                  Kolb sucks but Arizona's defense is way underrated.

                                                  AZ is just trying to play 49er type football dating back to last year and its working. They are 9-2 in their last 11 games.

                                                  Play stout defense and special teams, dont turn the ball over.

                                                  95% of the people out there said Alex Smith sucks and the 49ers will never win with him before LAST season. If it wasnt for Kyle Wiliams, that guy probably wins the Super Bowl last year.
                                                  They don't have even close to the defense, and even close to the O-line and running game.

                                                  Kyle Williams man, what a fukk up. I blame his father and the school he went to for that mess.
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                                                  • Sol Diablo
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                                                    • 09-03-12
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                    They don't have even close to the defense, and even close to the O-line and running game.

                                                    Kyle Williams man, what a fukk up. I blame his father and the school he went to for that mess.
                                                    Yea. I aint saying the Cards are anywhere near the level of SF. Im just saying thats how they are trying to win games. With that style.

                                                    And I agree. Chaparral High School sucks. Biggest cheating HS program in AZ of all time.
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                                                    • Sol Diablo
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                                                      • 09-03-12
                                                      • 489

                                                      #27
                                                      We dont need to mention where he went to college. We disowned him after he muffed a punt that cost us the UofA game. Hes good at that.
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                                                      • ChalkyDog
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                                                        • 10-02-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                                                        We dont need to mention where he went to college. We disowned him after he muffed a punt that cost us the UofA game. Hes good at that.
                                                        They had one of the best HS coaches ever last year... forgot where he went to.

                                                        That Muffed punt made me a Williams fan for life I thought, and then he fukks up a serious play on 9ers for me in the playoffs. Find out, on top of that shit school he went to, his dad is the Kenny Williams of the despicable Chi-Sox and I about lost it. Trifecta of fail right there.

                                                        Anyway, not to hijack a perfectly good thread - I hate ASU!
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                                                        • Sol Diablo
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                                                          • 09-03-12
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                          They had one of the best HS coaches ever last year... forgot where he went to.
                                                          Charlie Ragle is a prick and a cheater. He's now on staff down at UofA in some sort of "football operations" role. Perfect fit for him and his ego.
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                                                          • QuantumLeap
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                                                            • 08-22-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Sol Diablo
                                                            Kolb sucks but Arizona's defense is way underrated.

                                                            AZ is just trying to play 49er type football dating back to last year and its working. They are 9-2 in their last 11 games.

                                                            Play stout defense and special teams, dont turn the ball over.

                                                            95% of the people out there said Alex Smith sucks and the 49ers will never win with him before LAST season. If it wasnt for Kyle Wiliams, that guy probably wins the Super Bowl last year.
                                                            I agree about their defense. In my opinion Ray Horton (Defensive Coordinator) is the star of that team.

                                                            Kolb looked horrible in the 1st quarter against the Pats but he actually started connecting later in the game. If Wiz can keep the offensive emphasis on the running game with occasional passes Arizona will win the game.
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                                                            • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                              • 02-14-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                              Also, what revenge does Kolb have? The guy committed fraud with the help of Andy Reid and the Eagles.

                                                              The dude got starter, franchise player money. He sold himself as a starting QB in the NFL. He is bench talent getting starter money.

                                                              Kolb, if anything, owes Philly.

                                                              Arizona has a revenge factor on Philly, but mainly the front office. No idea how you factor that in.
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                                                              • ChalkyDog
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                                                                • 10-02-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                                He represented himself as a starting QB in the NFL. Andy Reid helped facilitate this fraud, as did the eagles. In return the Eagles got a pick and an awesome player - for a bench player at best

                                                                The Cardinals got a bad contract for a bad player for a average team.

                                                                The guy wasn't the starter coming into week 1, and it was painfully obvious why.
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                                                                • easyliving
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                                                                  • 06-25-12
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  definitely not. Kolb is horrible and Skelton is the better QB.
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                                                                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                                    • 02-14-12
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                                    He represented himself as a starting QB in the NFL. Andy Reid helped facilitate this fraud, as did the eagles. In return the Eagles got a pick and an awesome player - for a bench player at best.
                                                                    I do not hold Kolb/Reid accountable for that. The onus falls on the Cards who watched him play and decided he was a solid starting QB in this league. If you blame anyone it's the AZ front office/head coach imo. BTW Bidwell is one of the worst owners in NFL, so maybe I would blame him.
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                                                                    • ChalkyDog
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                                                                      • 10-02-11
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                                                                      I do not hold Kolb/Reid accountable for that. The onus falls on the Cards who watched him play and decided he was a solid starting QB in this league. If you blame anyone it's the AZ front office/head coach imo. BTW Bidwell is one of the worst owners in NFL, so maybe I would blame him.
                                                                      Yeah, buyers remorse, yada yada yada. Obviously I am not serious when it comes to the legal definition of fraud, but Philly might have pulled one of the best snow jobs in recent nfl history.

                                                                      MJD wants a contract revamp due to his performance, I am sure the Cardinals would love a Kolb contract revamp based on performance.

                                                                      Players get it both ways.
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