2012 NFL System - JM and Modified

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  • on3
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    • 08-23-10
    • 2197

    #1
    2012 NFL System - JM and Modified
    here is the thread that i ran last year: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...-modified.html

    2011 records: JM = 15-4 for -21 units and Modified +.500 = 15-2 for +6 units

    This is a 3 game chase, in which you TAIL the team who has lost 3 games SU and ATS in a row, in hopes that they will cover 1 in 6 games. Games are A, B, C format and a win at any level of A, B, or C counts as a series win.

    The Modified +.500 system is 3-game chasing teams who are at or above .500 after they lose 2 games SU and ATS.

    Only difference this year is that I wont be running the labby in thread. It becomes cluttered and it seems it doesnt benefit too many people. So in the interest of keeping things clean, I will be posting the plays and keeping track of the records.

    Cheers to a good season everyone!
    Last edited by on3; 08-14-12, 06:45 PM.
  • on3
    SBR MVP
    • 08-23-10
    • 2197

    #2
    while the first system play doesnt come until week 4 at a minimum, there is a play for week 1, and that is fading the previous SB champ on a 3 game chase.

    Week 1 -- Dallas +3.5 (A)
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    • bisturis
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      • 04-03-11
      • 141

      #3
      Thanks On3! Can't wait to get this started!
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      • DustyDiamond
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-19-09
        • 772

        #4
        Checking in
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        • hagball52
          SBR MVP
          • 09-22-10
          • 3053

          #5
          Me too. Thanks On3 for putting this together.
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          • doin
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            • 02-27-09
            • 457

            #6
            def need this bookmarked. appreciation
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            • ChiLLx
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-24-11
              • 5412

              #7
              What is the backtest for fading the defending SB champ just curious
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              • hagball52
                SBR MVP
                • 09-22-10
                • 3053

                #8
                Originally posted by ChiLLx
                What is the backtest for fading the defending SB champ just curious
                Never lost in 89 years Morrison says. Check it out.

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                • xgame
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 07-21-10
                  • 675

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hagball52
                  Never lost in 89 years Morrison says. Check it out.

                  http://www.sportsbettingchamp.com/087998

                  last year got killed choke bro....
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                  • Winning oasis
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-14-11
                    • 1240

                    #10
                    This is where you wager against the SB Champs to cover and increase the bet if it loses the start of the season. I think it went 3 weeks until it covered last year. Right?
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                    • aznknightt
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 09-22-09
                      • 347

                      #11
                      Green bay was the fade last year. They did not cover against Carolina in week 2. I remember cuz I played it
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                      • bisturis
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 04-03-11
                        • 141

                        #12
                        Are you guys putting your bet in now for the Cowboys at +3.5 or are you going to wait closer to game day to see if the line moves any? Since there are a few injuries pending so far.
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                        • UnderDog_Philip
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 09-16-09
                          • 181

                          #13
                          I'll be following this system play, gl.
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                          • arpeggiomeister
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                            • 05-23-08
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by on3
                            here is the thread that i ran last year: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...-modified.html

                            2011 records: JM = 15-4 for -21 units and Modified +.500 = 15-2 for +6 units

                            This is a 3 game chase, in which you TAIL the team who has lost 3 games SU and ATS in a row, in hopes that they will cover 1 in 6 games. Games are A, B, C format and a win at any level of A, B, or C counts as a series win.

                            The Modified +.500 system is 3-game chasing teams who are at or above .500 after they lose 2 games SU and ATS.

                            Only difference this year is that I wont be running the labby in thread. It becomes cluttered and it seems it doesnt benefit too many people. So in the interest of keeping things clean, I will be posting the plays and keeping track of the records.

                            Cheers to a good season everyone!
                            Very interesting thread. I have been studying chase systems and this is similar to what is called the "Gland Martingale", typically used on roulette. You would wait for say black to show up 5 times in a row. You then start betting red with a chase system in hopes that red comes up before you lose.

                            The colts were a disaster last year. I will have to go check and see if this system worked with them.

                            I'll be interested to see how this plays out.
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                            • analyzer
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                              • 02-03-11
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                              #15
                              Looking forward to it!
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                              • Snoopdonk
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                                • 11-18-11
                                • 8

                                #16
                                The defending Super Bowl Champ New England Patriots did not lose against the spread until week 8 in the 2004-2005 season. FYI
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                                • on3
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-23-10
                                  • 2197

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Snoopdonk
                                  The defending Super Bowl Champ New England Patriots did not lose against the spread until week 8 in the 2004-2005 season. FYI
                                  they lost/pushed the spread on week 1 depending on the closing line of +3.5/+3 that season (which would have negated the 3-game chase). same thing happened in week 5. they also lost straight up during week 6 as 3 point faves.

                                  in any case, i would recommend buying a half point on key numbers (3, 7, 10) to prevent being moosed on NFL chases. not sure what the letter of the law says about how NWE in 2005 was graded (assuming it was cancelled/no action after week 1), but to say that they didnt lose ATS until week 8 is simply wrong.
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                                  • on3
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                                    • 08-23-10
                                    • 2197

                                    #18
                                    for those that are fans of 'no capping' systems, here is one that yields +EV year after year and went 64-32 last year. when only playing home teams, the ROI is over 10%:

                                    round robin 2-team tease any and all teams that fall within +1.5 to +2.5 dogs or -7.5 to -8.5 faves. for example, week 1 plays would be PHI (-7.5), DET (-.7.5), KC (+2), TB (+2), ARI (+2.5), OAK (+1.5). for week 1, that is 15 bets total when you round robin 2-team them.

                                    A B C D
                                    Through 3 & 7 889-316-7 53.8 2.71%
                                    Home and through 3 & 7 500-152-5 57.9 10.57%
                                    **the records are for individual teams, you must square the win percentage to get the success rate shown in column C.
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                                    • imotiv8
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 12-28-09
                                      • 892

                                      #19
                                      http://forum.sbrforum.com/college-football-betting/1878060-jm-like-college-football-system-2012-a.html

                                      JM LIKE COLLEGE FOOTBALL SYSTEM
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                                      • DustyDiamond
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 12-19-09
                                        • 772

                                        #20
                                        Sorry for the noob question, can you explain the round robin 2-team concept?

                                        Originally posted by on3
                                        for those that are fans of 'no capping' systems, here is one that yields +EV year after year and went 64-32 last year. when only playing home teams, the ROI is over 10%:

                                        round robin 2-team tease any and all teams that fall within +1.5 to +2.5 dogs or -7.5 to -8.5 faves. for example, week 1 plays would be PHI (-7.5), DET (-.7.5), KC (+2), TB (+2), ARI (+2.5), OAK (+1.5). for week 1, that is 15 bets total when you round robin 2-team them.

                                        A B C D
                                        Through 3 & 7 889-316-7 53.8 2.71%
                                        Home and through 3 & 7 500-152-5 57.9 10.57%
                                        **the records are for individual teams, you must square the win percentage to get the success rate shown in column C.
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                                        • DustyDiamond
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                                          • 12-19-09
                                          • 772

                                          #21
                                          Dallas is now +4. Should we wait or go for it now?
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                                          • on3
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                                            • 08-23-10
                                            • 2197

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DustyDiamond
                                            Sorry for the noob question, can you explain the round robin 2-team concept?
                                            lets say you have 3 teams you want to bet on, team A, B, and C. instead of doing a 3-team parlay as A/B/C, you can round robin them and split them into three 2-team parlays and do A/B, A/C, C/B. so if a team loses in this parlay, you still hit one of your three bets. most online books will do this for you automatically if you select the round robin option.
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                                            • DIRTYDIRTY
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                                              • 11-12-09
                                              • 1144

                                              #23
                                              im down lets get it thanx 3
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                                              • bisturis
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 04-03-11
                                                • 141

                                                #24
                                                Dang it! The line moved to 3.5 and I didn't put my bet in when it was 4!
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                                                • bisturis
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 04-03-11
                                                  • 141

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah buddy!! Looking GREAT so far guys!! Let's do this!
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                                                  • delbiand
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                                                    • 07-27-11
                                                    • 31

                                                    #26


                                                    Dallas

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                                                    • on3
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-23-10
                                                      • 2197

                                                      #27
                                                      Week 1 -- Dallas +3.5 (A) WIN

                                                      The next update will be AFTER week 2 about teams eligible for week 4 plays.
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                                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                        • 5154

                                                        #28
                                                        On3

                                                        Do you mind posting the plays as well as units next to them for people? I know you are running the labby on the side from what I read, but you could simply round the unit size to nearest 1/2 unit so people can just follow the unit sizes.
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                                                        • GGPLAYER
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                                                          • 03-26-09
                                                          • 2981

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by aznknightt
                                                          Green bay was the fade last year. They did not cover against Carolina in week 2. I remember cuz I played it
                                                          Me too....this bet always hits!
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                                                          • TwoCats
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 07-14-12
                                                            • 228

                                                            #30
                                                            Did anybody actually get an email from JM telling you what the (Dallas) bet was?

                                                            I purchased his NFL system last year (before I found this forum) but have only got the usual bullshit email to buy the system.
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                                                            • catt0025
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 09-08-12
                                                              • 68

                                                              #31
                                                              With the Modified +.500 system... technically won't be able to get started until week 6 right? Any team through 5 games would have to be 3-2 and have lost SU and ATS last 2 games coming into week 6; if I'm understanding the system correctly? Let me know if I'm thinking right here, looks awesome though, can't wait to get going!
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                                                              • on3
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                                                                • 08-23-10
                                                                • 2197

                                                                #32
                                                                modified is .500 or better. potential action in week 5 if team starts 2-0 and then goes 0-2.
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                                                                • catt0025
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 09-08-12
                                                                  • 68

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Sounds good, thanks for the clarification.
                                                                  Last edited by catt0025; 09-08-12, 11:15 PM.
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                                                                  • on3
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                                    • 2197

                                                                    #34
                                                                    just because im impatient and want to post something...

                                                                    system record: 0-0
                                                                    mod system record: 0-0
                                                                    units: +0


                                                                    week 4 potential plays (lost 1 SU and 1 ATS):

                                                                    ny giants
                                                                    indianapolis
                                                                    buffalo
                                                                    miami
                                                                    tenn
                                                                    new orleans
                                                                    kansas city
                                                                    green bay
                                                                    seattle
                                                                    carolina
                                                                    pittsburgh
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                                                                    • GGPLAYER
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                                                                      • 03-26-09
                                                                      • 2981

                                                                      #35
                                                                      [QUOTE=on3;15967112]just because im impatient and want to post something...



                                                                      I like it.....we can start tracking these teams.
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