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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Makes sense, Raiders. See my post 31. I'm of the opinion that Ties will come in more regularly under the Revised tie rules.
    But -6.5 to -.5 is the worst of the teasers. The winning probability is higher 7.5 to 1.5. It'll cover the loss on the 1 or tie.

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    Use Nitrobetting for 6 point teasers -110 and FD for 10 point teasers -120 and you can find advantages. If you can anticipate line movements, you'll even get better odds. The closing line will determine if it was a good bet or bad bet if you think the NFL is an efficient market.
    Last edited by raiders72001; 10-11-23 at 03:08 PM.

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    LOL these threads are always the same

    Most books use teaser protection lines anyway

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    To make a general statement, teasing down home teams early is normally the best value if you consider the closing line to be efficient. The line normally moves up after opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    LOL these threads are always the same

    Most books use teaser protection lines anyway
    wrong. Nitro put up an 8.5 -114. That's just the opposite. Now that most went to -120 teaser protection isn't needed. The book wants the teaser bets.

    Should have been a light 9 or 9.5 as teaser protection.
    Last edited by raiders72001; 10-11-23 at 03:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    wrong. Pinny put up an 8.5 -114. That's just the opposite.
    Most of the time they absolutely use teaser protection lines. Saying one instance where they didn't for a short time doesn't change anything

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    When they moved teasers from 7 to 6, I said NO MO!!

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    How come the books didn't move the 2.5s this week? A heavy 1 is teaser protection. Very few do it today. And if you think that 2.5 will increase to 3, meaning the ML will increase too, it's a great bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INVEGA MAN View Post
    When they moved teasers from 7 to 6, I said NO MO!!
    -110s are out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Most of the time they absolutely use teaser protection lines. Saying one instance where they didn't for a short time doesn't change anything
    You don't know what you are talking about. The books are leaving up 2.5s. They leave up 8.5s. I've been checking them weekly for years. 5Dimes used teaser protection and Heritage jacked up the vig on Wong teasers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    You don't know what you are talking about. The books are leaving up 2.5s. They leave up 8.5s. I've been checking them weekly for years. 5Dimes used teaser protection and Heritage jacked up the vig on Wong teasers.
    You're just arguing to argue at this point. If a book is offering -120 then of course they don't need teaser protection. Do you really think that's what I was saying ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    You're just arguing to argue at this point. If a book is offering -120 then of course they don't need teaser protection. Do you really think that's what I was saying ???
    I'm serious, you have no idea what you are talking about. Teaser protection means not putting up 1.5, 2, 2.5, 7.5, 8, 8.5. You move the line to 1 or 9 and change the vig. There are books with -110 that don't protect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I'm serious, you have no idea what you are talking about. Teaser protection means not putting up 1.5, 2, 2.5, 7.5, 8, 8.5. You move the line to 1 or 9 and change the vig. There are books with -110 that don't protect.
    LOL you're still upset about how made you look like a fool I guess

    Pinnacle uses teaser protection

    Books that use -120 WHO CARES ????

    You're not beating -120 regardless so why are you even talking about them ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    LOL you're still upset about how made you look like a fool I guess

    Pinnacle uses teaser protection

    Books that use -120 WHO CARES ????

    You're not beating -120 regardless so why are you even talking about them ???
    Because I'm betting -110 and -120 can still be beat but you would have to be right on line movement. Pinny has 1.5 and 2.5 up now.

    You're the one looking like a fool again but it's not as bad as practice squad players are better than starters.

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    This is -110 with a heavy 8.5. That was 8.5 -114 and they let me tease it to 2.5.

    https://i.imgur.com/VhAGVHW.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Because I'm betting -110 and -120 can still be beat but you would have to be right on line movement. Pinny has 1.5 and 2.5 up now.

    You're the one looking like a fool again but it's not as bad as practice squad players are better than starters.
    If you found a book that offers -110 for 6 point teasers that doesn't protect then good for you. I'm seriously happy for you

    -120 MAY be able to be beat but I doubt you are beating it

    The other stuff.. you really need to get over it at some point

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    You guys are focused too much on the pure math

    It's more about the teams playing. I would never tease tampa for example against Detroit. Why? Detroit already has several wins by double digits

    You want to tease against teams that don't win by double digits like minnesota

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    At -120 you need legs better than 73.85%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion1178 View Post
    You guys are focused too much on the pure math

    It's more about the teams playing. I would never tease tampa for example against Detroit. Why? Detroit already has several wins by double digits

    You want to tease against teams that don't win by double digits like minnesota
    Teasers are like 99% math. You're doing it wrong if you're trying to handicap it

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Teasers are like 99% math. You're doing it wrong if you're trying to handicap it
    this we agree with 100%. I let Pinny do the heavy lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    If you found a book that offers -110 for 6 point teasers that doesn't protect then good for you. I'm seriously happy for you

    -120 MAY be able to be beat but I doubt you are beating it

    The other stuff.. you really need to get over it at some point
    I can't believe what you say some times considering the amount of time and posts you have on the forum. I would assume that you look at lines of many books but you don't seem to know anything that's going on outside of the book you play at.

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    There are books out there with -110, +180, +300, +450.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I can't believe what you say some times considering the amount of time and posts you have on the forum. I would assume that you look at lines of many books but you don't seem to know anything that's going on outside of the book you play at.
    LOL you're funny

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    I started thinking you were just trolling on the practice squad players being better than starters but now I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I started thinking you were just trolling on the practice squad players being better than starters but now I'm not sure.
    LOL

    Anything else you want to get off your chest while I'm here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    There are books out there with -110, +180, +300, +450.
    Go get 'em !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Go get 'em !!!
    lol

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    Orion, I can tell you this. Raiders is my leading Financial Advisor on this site.

    You know the saying "When EF Hutton talks, people listen."

    On this site, it's "When Raiders talks, people listen."


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Orion, I can tell you this. Raiders is my leading Financial Advisor on this site.

    You know the saying "When EF Hutton talks, people listen."

    On this site, it's "When Raiders talks, people listen."

    Must be why you're broke

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Must be why you're broke
    I've posted with Chucky in the bitcoin forum for years. We've gone through 2 bull runs together. He's not broke and he's going to add a ton the next bull run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    I've posted with Chucky in the bitcoin forum for years. We've gone through 2 bull runs together. He's not broke and he's going to add a ton the next bull run.
    Oh yeah ?

    When is this "bull run" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Oh yeah ?

    When is this "bull run" ?
    Next year, happens ever 4 years during the bitcoin halving. That forum is slow now but will be hopping after the football season. https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...ports-betting/

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72001 View Post
    Next year, happens ever 4 years during the bitcoin halving. That forum is slow now but will be hopping after the football season. https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...ports-betting/
    Don't get caught holding the bag

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Don't get caught holding the bag
    I've been doing it since 2013 when the price of bitcoin was in the single digits. I spend most of my time in the bitcoin forum but came up here while it's slow in crypto now.

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    Buy ETH and sit on it for 2 years although BTC is fine.

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