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    ok lets take a look at both teams seasons

    like really KC had easy too

    here we go

    CHIEFS

    Sep 11
    Week 1 @ ARI W 44-21 W -6 O 54 4 -13 record
    Sep 15
    Week 2 LAC W 27-24 L -4 U 53 10-7 record
    Sep 25
    Week 3 @ IND L 17-20 L -4.5 U 50.5 4-12-1 record eagles played colts too won by 1
    Oct 2
    Week 4 @ TB W 41-31 W 2 O 47.5 8 - 9 record
    Oct 10
    Week 5 LV W 30-29 L -7.5 O 51 6-11
    Oct 16
    Week 6 BUF L 20-24 L 2.5 U 54 13-3
    Oct 23
    Week 7 @ SF W 44-23 W -1 O 48 13-4 ummmmm we drilled em in playoffs
    Nov 6
    Week 9 TEN W 20-17 (OT) L -14 U 45 7-10 eagles drilled em in philly 35-10
    Nov 13
    Week 10 JAC W 27-17 L -11 U 51.5 9-8 eagles hammered em in philly 29-21 was down 14-0 1st quarter
    Nov 20
    Week 11 @ LAC W 30-27 L -5.5 O 52.5
    Nov 27
    Week 12 LAR W 26-10 L -16.5 U 41.5 5-12
    Dec 4
    Week 13 @ CIN L 24-27 L -2.5 U 53 12-4
    Dec 11
    Week 14 @ DEN W 34-28 L -8.5 O 44.5 5--12
    Dec 18
    Week 15 @ HOU W 30-24 (OT) L -16.5 O 48.5 eagles won 29-17 lost -14 points @ Houston
    Dec 24
    Week 16 SEA W 24-10 W -10.5 U 50.5 3-13-1
    Jan 1
    Week 17 DEN W 27-24 L -13.5 O 46.5
    Jan 7
    Week 18 @ LV W 31-13 W -9 U 51


    EAGLES

    Sep 11
    Week 1 @ DET W 38-35 L -6 O 48.5 9-8
    Sep 19
    Week 2 MIN W 24-7 W -2.5 U 49.5 13-4
    Sep 25
    Week 3 @ WAS W 24-8 W -6 U 47.5 8-8-1
    Oct 2
    Week 4 JAC W 29-21 W -6.5 O 44.5 9-8
    Oct 9
    Week 5 @ ARI W 20-17 L -5.5 U 48.5 4-13
    Oct 16
    Week 6 DAL W 26-17 W -6.5 O 42.5 12-5
    Oct 30
    Week 8 PIT W 35-13 W -11 O 43 9-8
    Nov 3
    Week 9 @ HOU W 29-17 L -14 O 45 3-13-1
    Nov 14
    Week 10 WAS L 21-32 L -11 O 43 8-8-1
    Nov 20
    Week 11 @ IND W 17-16 L -6.5 U 45.5 4-12-1
    Nov 27
    Week 12 GB W 40-33 W -6.5 O 46 8-9
    Dec 4
    Week 13 TEN W 35-10 W -5 O 44.5 7--10
    Dec 11
    Week 14 @ NYG W 48-22 W -7.5 O 44.5 9-7-1
    Dec 18
    Week 15 @ CHI W 25-20 L -8.5 U 48 3--14 comon man this was trap game between div rivals
    Dec 24
    Week 16 @ DAL L 34-40 L 4 O 47.5
    Jan 1
    Week 17 NO L 10-20 L -5.5 U 41.5 7--10 hurts was out
    Jan 8
    Week 18 NYG W 22-16 L -17 U 43.5

    and Eagles had 3 teams in playoffs worst record was wash 8-8-1


    key is turnovers for season chiefs - 3 Eagles +8

    Last edited by OldBill; 02-04-23 at 08:05 PM.

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    OMG-william get a life.

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    FFS Bill

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    I thought football was over. Damnit! There is still one more game.

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    The key to this game is going to be how the KC defense handles that offensive line of Philly. They've pounded out long drives all season long, especially in the first half. If the Eagles get an early lead, it allows that defense to attack more and you'll see Hassan Rediick chasing Mahomes all night. You saw how the Niners shut down Hurts in that game and they continually ran behind Mailata and Dickerson. If the Niners couldn't contain that running game then the Chiefs sure aren't going to shut it down. Chiefs have to open it up early and get a lead.

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    Billy:

    *Are you surprised that people aren't backing the Eagles MORE STRONGLY?

    Here's my basic matchup in a nutshell:
    *A hobbled Mahomes vs a 70-sack Defensive front.
    ...No way that Mahomes got that much healthier in two weeks.
    ...Mahomes looked BAD in the 2h of the game vs the Bengals. No answers.
    ...Eagle pass-rushers will be relentless. And I'm not sure I see Chief alternatives.

    If anyone decides to back the Chiefs here...they have to answer this question (above).

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    Quote Originally Posted by klemopixx View Post
    The key to this game is going to be how the KC defense handles that offensive line of Philly. They've pounded out long drives all season long, especially in the first half. If the Eagles get an early lead, it allows that defense to attack more and you'll see Hassan Rediick chasing Mahomes all night. You saw how the Niners shut down Hurts in that game and they continually ran behind Mailata and Dickerson. If the Niners couldn't contain that running game then the Chiefs sure aren't going to shut it down. Chiefs have to open it up early and get a lead.
    My thoughts exactly

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    meh

    couple throwaway losses by both teams Chiefs lost to Indy and Philly lost to NO

    KC lost to Allen and Burrow

    Eagles lost to Heineke and Dak

    if Mahomes re-injures or goes down they give the ball to Henne

    if Hurts gets hurt Eagles would answer with Minshew

    tight ends are nearly even with Kelce and Goedert

    Watkins Smith and Brown vs. Schuster, Scantling and Toney also a wash all 6 guys showstoppers

    so which conference is stronger overall ?

    who has the better coach ?

    just more questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Billy:

    *Are you surprised that people aren't backing the Eagles MORE STRONGLY?

    Here's my basic matchup in a nutshell:
    *A hobbled Mahomes vs a 70-sack Defensive front.
    ...No way that Mahomes got that much healthier in two weeks.
    ...Mahomes looked BAD in the 2h of the game vs the Bengals. No answers.
    ...Eagle pass-rushers will be relentless. And I'm not sure I see Chief alternatives.

    If anyone decides to back the Chiefs here...they have to answer this question (above).
    some places are getting lots of eagle love:



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Billy:

    *Are you surprised that people aren't backing the Eagles MORE STRONGLY?

    Here's my basic matchup in a nutshell:
    *A hobbled Mahomes vs a 70-sack Defensive front.
    ...No way that Mahomes got that much healthier in two weeks.
    ...Mahomes looked BAD in the 2h of the game vs the Bengals. No answers.
    ...Eagle pass-rushers will be relentless. And I'm not sure I see Chief alternatives.

    If anyone decides to back the Chiefs here...they have to answer this question (above).
    Sounds reasonable Chucky. Why isn’t the line higher?

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    This is a horrible way to cap games by looking at final scores in regular season.

    This is a Superbowl. All you need is have the ball last and kick the winning FG to win. Teams play very conservatively and scared in Superbowls. Wouldn't be surprised if the total is very low

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    Love your work Bill.

    It's always a hard read .

    But you get a lot of things right in the end.

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    and Eagles had 3 teams in playoffs worst record was wash 8-8-1


    key is turnovers for season chiefs - 3 Eagles +8


    and 2 games eagles lost hurts didnt play

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    This is a horrible way to cap games by looking at final scores in regular season.

    This is a Superbowl. All you need is have the ball last and kick the winning FG to win. Teams play very conservatively and scared in Superbowls. Wouldn't be surprised if the total is very low

    not playing scared 1st half they take shots with different plays just like prize fighters too jab here shot to body here right hook to face etc...

    we have 3 players on our team that wear super bowl winners rings Nadmaku suh when with TB vs Chiefs our Center kelce and TOP DE Brandon Graham who stripped sack brady in the superbowl not sure about others but right now betting on eagles or chiefs is tough for me Chiefs biggest $$$ Burner ats 5 -12 Eagles not much better 8-9 ats

    but besides matress mack losing Superbowls picks across the street is don juan who only lost 1 out of last 15 sometimes not sides he goes with totals in few

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    World on Eagles
    Only capping you need
    Chiefs

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    Great stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    meh

    couple throwaway losses by both teams Chiefs lost to Indy and Philly lost to NO

    KC lost to Allen and Burrow

    Eagles lost to Heineke and Dak

    if Mahomes re-injures or goes down they give the ball to Henne

    if Hurts gets hurt Eagles would answer with Minshew

    tight ends are nearly even with Kelce and Goedert

    Watkins Smith and Brown vs. Schuster, Scantling and Toney also a wash all 6 guys showstoppers

    so which conference is stronger overall ?

    who has the better coach ?

    just more questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Billy:

    *Are you surprised that people aren't backing the Eagles MORE STRONGLY?

    Here's my basic matchup in a nutshell:
    *A hobbled Mahomes vs a 70-sack Defensive front.
    ...No way that Mahomes got that much healthier in two weeks.
    ...Mahomes looked BAD in the 2h of the game vs the Bengals. No answers.
    ...Eagle pass-rushers will be relentless. And I'm not sure I see Chief alternatives.

    If anyone decides to back the Chiefs here...they have to answer this question (above).
    I feel I need to remind you that Mahomes lost his 3 best WR's for the 2nd half. Imagine if Hurts or any QB lost his best 3 WR's for a half.
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    why isn't the line higher? i think cause mahomes is getting backed like the superstar he is. he gets bet regardless. i will say this game, to me, is similar to bucs cowboys wildcard. i was blindly on brady and lost thinking it was a gift at plus money. i am not blindly on the chiefs. just my take.

    this also reminds me of seahawks broncos. i was blindly on manning then. now i chose the better overall team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Sounds reasonable Chucky. Why isn’t the line higher?
    That's my issue. I really thought this # was headed toward -3.

    Chiefs have name-recognition. Feel like the Chiefs got off the hook last game vs the Bengals.

    Doing it again? Have to have a solution for how to block the PHI Def Front, when you know the QB is not going to be a threat to scramble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pologq View Post
    why isn't the line higher? i think cause mahomes is getting backed like the superstar he is. he gets bet regardless. i will say this game, to me, is similar to bucs cowboys wildcard. i was blindly on brady and lost thinking it was a gift at plus money. i am not blindly on the chiefs. just my take.

    this also reminds me of seahawks broncos. i was blindly on manning then. now i chose the better overall team.
    But the WORLD was on Tampa
    there’s a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowframs View Post
    World on Eagles
    Only capping you need
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    A lot of bad gamblers bet on the Eagles early. Everything is pointing towards the Chiefs when it comes to fading the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    A lot of bad gamblers bet on the Eagles early. Everything is pointing towards the Chiefs when it comes to fading the public.
    How do you rate the Chief health for this game?

    Better than the 2h vs Bengals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowframs View Post
    But the WORLD was on Tampa
    there’s a difference
    there is almost 70% i think on the eagles as of yesterday

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    see my recent post thread the technical data for win margin in superbowls

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    no way am i backing Chiefs as one team reported on the anylizing the one guy said mahoomes QBR rating low in both SB's 65 and 60 and get this guys only 2 tds thrown with 5 ints

    of course the # 1 defense in league spit him out and held them to only 3 fg's

    Brady never lost any sb 31-9 even big ben lost by 6 vs Packers

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