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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    10,000 samples lmao id have to go back to the 80's or maybe 70's and thats not gonna work becuse of rules changes so the past 10 years and 15 years is enough

    but you go ahead RANGE FINDER and bet against my picks or just do what you been doing every year in NFL.


    I'm not saying anything about betting against your picks. What I am saying is you don't have enough samples to make a mathematical conclusion that teams playing in London won't make the Super Bowl, when one already has.

    I'm also saying, that to make any mathematical conclusion about anything, you need a minimum of 10,000 samples. It's been proven over many decades if not centuries.

    So, here is my conclusion for you to take in consideration. You cannot trust trends in sports or put much weight to them. Example, Team A is 20-7 at home ATS against team B. Does that tell you team A is more likely to cover against team B in this contest? It depends, but probably not. One is the bookmaker knows that stat, secondly, you don't have enough samples mathematically to draw that conclusion with any certainty.

    Just sayin', not hatin'

    Good luck this season.

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    and eliminated week 1 2 teams that tied COLTS Texans Cowboys lost to BUCS see ya

    ELIMINATED 100% NO team with tied game has ever won a SB as far back as the 80's i found 49ers got thier and s/u lost as a 4.5 chalk no chance to cover spread even if score final seconds

    and the amazing statistical record of team really losing TO Tampa Bay since 1972 is 0- 240 or higher
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    let me define trends for you Rangefinder vs SYSTEMS a TREND only applies to one team like the bills horrible record after any win over rival miami another trend the Patriots losing in miami after winning 1st game they get lumped in miami in later of season

    another trend The eagles havent lost to steelers at home since 1965

    and they own the jets too but after wins vs either go kerplunk s/u and a t s

    SYSTEMS apply to all teams and i posted them all including a couple of new ones i devoloped and using past 16 years on all 32 teams shown amazing win % average 67% - %100% on some teams

    SYSTEM decades old 65% most all teams that won s/u as a DOG will fail as a Favorite in next game!

    Some teams are always favored or so bad thier is no value on them like lions

    system my own home and home system Team is favored throughout vs non div foe like say Bills -3 lose s/u to Browns at home looking ahead to div team Dolphins well they lose that 2nd game also s/u and ats 100% past 16 years

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    Cardinals are going be 0-2 now if lose @ raiders only 2 teams i think started out 0-2 and got to superbowl and one Cowboys and Giants

    and possible packers lose at home vs Bears

    Colts 0-1-1 and a bagel eaten @ Jags 24-0 s/u loss ELIMINTAED 2 X Super bowl loser Bengals bad start as -7.5 Chalk at C Boys

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    bumpy

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    again i remind you SOS at end teels it all CHIEFS ranked 5th toughest and they are decimating every team if that demolition of 49ers at sf wasnt enough to know that chiefs offense is still tops then your blind

    the lowest sos is all 4 nfc east teams cowboys and wash tied at 31st eagles ranked 29th giants ranked 30th

    one thing i hate is players and now hc do comercials for insurance companies State farm

    Tom brady nor Bill B never did on tv as far as i know

    so much easier when i see who has the top ranked defense that is vs pass n run

    and sos at end of year updated

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    also reminding you rookie hc's never win sb in 1st year

    these teams have rookie HC's Matt Eberflus (Bears), Brian Daboll (Giants), Mike McDaniel (Dolphins) and Kevin O'Connell (Vikings)

    lions as all others hosted on hard knocks 1 win and 6 losses gawdd they suck and when young qb's make playoff finals 1st time they all fail

    some super strong qb's superbowl champs failed Mahoomhes lost to Patriots BIG ben lost to the umm errrrrrrr jets russel wislon lost araon rodgers lost

    thats all tired of drilling results from past 25 years into your thick skulls if you cant learn from your losses then give it up

    i paid mines way back in early 80's i couldve sent 2 kids to college just nfl season but got them damn bookies paying me every week in MLB and no internet only the daily paper that cost a only .15 cents

    in 83 the Oriles out of gate lost 23 str8 games i started after they lost 3 road it out till 20th loss and stopped bookie kept driving up odds on the chalks -180- 185 -195 and i said ok so gimme the fav for $360 to win $200 right ...he snaps back if you lose you gotta pay me me $360 i always said see ya on pay day pal

    was so happy when legal offshores came around hated locals with run lines on big chalks and i wanted the full dog price

    so when i knew i had the dog winners +1.5 runs for only +140 i doubled my price he says wait a min you never bet $300 most was 100

    i said hey your taking away $ from me just give me the dog price with no rl and you lose less he said no mo fo thats it

    bam dog won 10- 3 i called him up after 7th inning and said see ya pay day jimmy

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    Bill?
    You're OK in my book, I say this with love in my heart, but I didn't think it was possible, you have more time on your hands than I do.

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    "umm errrrrrrr" is the part that I agreed with the most here, Bill. Translating your short stories is like reading a Tweet from Mike Matusow.

    But back to the main subject, let's focus more on the State Farm commercials. Has anyone in a State Farm commercial ever beat the Buccaneers, and what was the logo in the end zone after the bye week during the old 17 week seasons??

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    yeah steve nash due to car being down cant get it fixed until wed i'm sick of being dead broke

    like tnf loved ravens ML @ TB

    thats one of those games i wish i had 10,000$ to slam on it spread it out in all casino books near me

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    Bill, you wrote this above and I quote "thats all tired of drilling results from past 25 years into your thick skulls if you cant learn from your losses then give it up" then turn around and admit to being dead broke.

    Is it all of the multi-leg parlays that you kept betting or all of the rigged slots that you keep plunking your quarters in?

    See ya on pay day pal.............. lol indeed Bill.

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    Bill, is this your son?

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...e-garbage.html

    He writes like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    eliminate 6 teams playing in london only one team who played in played in London won a SB the GIANTS

    this years 6 teams are Vikings Vs saints Packers vs Giants broncos vs Jaguars

    Cardinals are this years host city BYE BYE

    both sb teams eliminate thats 9

    Browns jets = 11 lions = 12 steelers 13 Titans 14 texans 15 colts 16 Eagles 17 wash 18 ravens 19 falcons; panthers 21 seattle 22 Bears 23

    Raiders 24 (just cant do it with current QB)dolphins 25 Cowboys 26 49ers 27

    also the team featured on hard knocks last year they had two Cowboys 1st then later in season the Colts so far any team featured on Hard Knocks series has never played in a super bowl Cowboys again featured on H K this year!



    and now the 49ers moving forward with trey lance ...i just remembered some guy bet like $12 K on 49ers to win the sb this year

    SO we have left in my opinion Bills Patriots Chiefs---Tampa bay (long shot new HC is proven loser)

    gotta add Seattle in for NFC

    also you know results teams that start 0-2 rare to make sb and like 2 -4 as cheifs did last year

    you want your SB team to be at 7-3 or better after week 10 and final SOS at week 17 like last year rams #1 Bengals # 4

    and any healthy team that loses 4 or more weeks in a row has never come out of playoffs since we started SB years in 1965

    and any team that got in with a 9-7 record has lost except the Giants who suffered due to injuries that year

    and still patriots 2 x in season and the sb
    How we looking, Billy?

    Heres a record update on your teams that have a chance at making it to the SB.

    Bills 6-3
    Patriots 5-4
    Chiefs 7-2
    Tampa bay 5-5


    Seattle 6-4

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    Chiefs vs Eagles

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunShard View Post
    If the NY Giants has played in London and won the Super Bowl. Packers still got a chance to win. I'm still betting on the Packers as one of the teams to win the Super Bowl.

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    ^ Hindsight is 50/50. Packers could still make it to the Super Bowl but lose. I made that prediction before the Packers lost to the Jets.

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    lol i told you all eagles are dead last in s o s and when a qb lays in finals 1st time they all lose

    nfc east is a joke all 4 teams started out bootom 4 sos cboys lost to TB bye bye Gainst rookie HC and qb never played in in PO's plus played in london vs packers

    also now because of extra week after week 11 you want your sb team to be 6-5 or 7-4

    so elimnate all the ones under those wins and losses and also any team that lost 4 str8 games has never played in a S B teams that were helthy that lost Giants did but were severly injured and got to SB as 3 point dog vs Patriots and upset Patsies again

    OLD buddy Ryan quote DEFENSE wins Championships

    when defense won Broncos vs 15-1 panthers panthers on 32nd ranked sos

    Steelers vs Seattle seattle on low ranked sos steelers went up to - 5 won by 7

    TB # 1 defense in all of NFL a 3 point home DOG truly the only team that owned thier home rams did not they share it with Chargers

    Seahawks legion of doom +2.5 vs overrated Broncs on a 30th ranked SOS

    even tho Bengals are winning they are 0-3 in div best they do is 3-3

    Bills also have not won a div game

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    So who you like to win it then???

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    I'm still confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I'm still confused.

    Nasher, Billy had 5 possible Superbowl predictions in the first post. All other teams were axed:

    Bills 7-3
    Patriots 6-4
    Chiefs 8-2
    Tampa bay 5-5

    Seattle 6-4

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    BUMPY now i said all 6 teams that played in london will not play in SB

    SB losers bengals started out 0-2 and loisng more games my gawd they lost to steelers week 1 at home

    also the teams hosted on HBO hard knocks never played in any sb Lions lmao just won 3rd game in row

    seattle just lost to TB so did saints falcons C boys 5 teams TB beat it will be 6 when rematch with panthers

    amazing scary streak teams that really lost (without benching as sainst did ) are like 0-240 add in more 5 0-245 including 4 teams tht got there rams heavy fav -12 lost to patriots old rams vs Steelers blown out miami Dan Marino killed by Joe montana in the sb and the falcons blowing a 25 point lead as a 3 + dog to patriots to lose in OT by 6

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    ok what have left 3 teams Chiefs Bills 49ers that it folks

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    I think there has been 4 prior regular season NFL games in Mexico. 2 of 8 teams who played there went to the Super Bowl. 1 of 8 won the SB. Keep that in mind.
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    thanks fox but mexico isnt played in every year but 49ers win it so we are favoring them to get to sb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxx View Post
    I think there has been 4 prior regular season NFL games in Mexico. 2 of 8 teams who played there went to the Super Bowl. 1 of 8 won the SB. Keep that in mind.
    Looks good so far.

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    yup remember i said Cardinals will not be playing at home in S B 1 div win Rams lost 3 and now 4-7 record

    and final 2 games they play away and the rest of thier schedule i see more losses coming so they will wind up with a losing record and not be in playoffs

    49ers maybe seattle gets a WC but seattle lost to Tampa Bay so they will not win superbowl

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    49ers get to face bucs dec 11th but it's a home game and so far perfect in div games 4-0 but S O S ranking is 25th

    tampa bay has history of failing playing on west coast 49ers schedule is fairly easy now

    49ERS
    Nov 21 awayTeamLogo @ ARI NEUTRAL L 17-31 L -5.5 O 45 Nov 7, 2021 WON
    Nov 27 awayTeamLogo NO L 13-27 L 9.5 U 50 Nov 15, 2020 WIN gigglz
    Dec 4 awayTeamLogo MIA L 17-43 L -8.5 O 50.5 Oct 11, 2020 TOUGH ONE expect a loss
    Dec 11 awayTeamLogo TB W 31-17 W 1 U 51 Sep 8, 2019 MUST WIN I hope they lose and get to SB
    Dec 15 awayTeamLogo @ SEA W 27-7 W -8.5 U 40 Sep 18, 2022 TOUGH ONE dsent matter seattle lost to T B
    Dec 24 awayTeamLogo WAS L 15-23 L -3 U 43.5 Dec 13, 2020 WIN be one huge upstet losing to wash
    Jan 1 awayTeamLogo @ LV W 34-3 W 1.5 U 44 Nov 1, 2018 WIN at Raiders ehhhhhhhh
    Jan 8 awayTeamLogo ARI L 17-31 L -5.5 O 45 Nov 7, 2021 WIN dont need to win they could give it up

    im hoping Eagles lose more div games so my eagles face sf @ SF in PO's and witnessed have $100 bet with nephew that 49ers go further than Eagles in PO's

    be so sweet eagles #1 seed gets waxed in 1st po game by some joke of a team

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    yup and your SB host is 4-7 and they made them n season host on hard knocks lol

    CHIEFS Bills but better win all div games because they are 0-2 and that makes you play away in playoffs no matter how many wins you had

    49ers won div already 4-0

    29 teams are eliminated titans will be playing in play offs but if get to finals vs chiefs tanny hill will look like a pathetic rookie and titans
    s o s ranked like 28th weakest yes no shit look at div jags texans colts lmao

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    Secret betting statistics are everywhere. I discovered this betting trend. Teams that made it to the Super Bowl with 40 points allowed on defense during regular season are most likely to lose:

    2010 Steelers allowed 39 points LOSE
    2011 Giants allowed 40 points WIN
    2012 Both Ravens and 49ers allowed 40 points
    2013 Broncos allowed 40 points LOSE
    2014 Patriots allowed 40 points WIN (Seahawks 4th and stupid not using Marshawn Lynch to win with a rush TD)
    2017 Patriots allowed 40 points LOSE
    2019 49ers allowed 40 points LOSE
    2021 Bengals allowed 40 points LOSE
    2022 49ers allowed 40 points PENDING

    If a Chiefs vs 49ers rematch happens. The Chiefs should win based on this trend.

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    2012 Both Ravens and 49ers allowed 40 points 49ers had tied game with div rival rams that year and got ears waxed in 1st half by ravens losing 28 - to 10 then 2nd half a mysterious black out happend happened n 49ers came back to - 4 points but failed to score from 7 yard line got stuffed by ravens

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    ok what have left 3 teams Chiefs Bills 49ers that it folks
    No Eagles Billy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBill View Post
    and now the 49ers moving forward with trey lance ...i just remembered some guy bet like $12 K on 49ers to win the sb this year
    Not so funny now, ay Billy Boy?

    Even you (who elimated the Niners from the SB in the first post of this thread) are
    picking SF to go to the Superbowl.

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    Ho-Hum
    Bills vs Vikes

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    bills vs buccs. they look like they wont make it especially with that head coach but blm will help them overboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiggityDaggityDo View Post
    Not so funny now, ay Billy Boy?

    Even you (who elimated the Niners from the SB in the first post of this thread) are
    picking SF to go to the Superbowl.
    Amazing what happens when you add a Christian McCaffrey to your lineup mid season. The Niners are primed for a Super Bowl run. The only thing that can stop them from getting it done this year imo is Kyle Shannahan. Some will say Jimmy G but to me he would have gotten it done against KC if Kyle didn't abandon the running game in the 4th Quarter. It's always coaching with the Niners but maybe this is the year Kyle gets the monkey off his back because he has so many weapons to work with at his disposal and the defense is taking the pressure off him by playing lights out.

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