Bet UNDER on this NFL Combine Prop. Agree?

[coloradobuff]

Found this at sportsbook.com

Best 40 Yard Dash Time by Any Player at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine

4.31 is the number.

Seems like under play with Spiller in mix. He routintely runs under 4.30.

Thoughts?

[whatsgood5]

Gotta agree here. Seems like easy money

[Chi_archie]

Found this at sportsbook.com

Best 40 Yard Dash Time by Any Player at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine

4.31 is the number.

Seems like under play with Spiller in mix. He routintely runs under 4.30.

Thoughts?

i'm not that familiar with spiller, but under what conditions had he run under 4.3? hand timed? how long ago

many many height/weight and performance stats routinely get reported before the kids decide on what school to go to. but than at the combine the truth comes out and exagerations are out the window

[The Seer]

Possible but not a great bet as these will be strict times and not "loose" times.

[rm18]

This bet is a virtual lock not because of Spiller but his teammate Jacoby Ford, he is a legit world class track guy.

[rm18]

Where is the bet at Bodog or somewhere?

[DrStale]

...

Where is the bet at bodog or somewhere?

Found this at sportsbook.com

[LLXC]

Following are the best 40 times and other data documented by NFLDraftScout.com in all Combines since 2000 to 2008, a Combine All-Century list:

Fastest 40-Yard Dash Times

4.24 - Chris Johnson, (RB), East Carolina, 2008
4.27 - Stanford Routt, (CB), Houston, 2005
4.28 - Jerome Mathis, (WR), Hampton, 2005
4.29 - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, (CB), Tennessee State, 2008
4.29 - *Fabian Washington, (CB), Nebraska, 2005
4.30 - Darrent Williams, (CB), Oklahoma State, 2005
4.30 - Yamon Figurs, (WR), Kansas State, 2007
4.31 - *Justin King, (CB), Penn State, 2008
4.31 - Tyvon Branch, (CB), Connecticut, 2008
4.31 - Michael Waddell, (CB), North Carolina, 2004
4.31 - Aaron Lockett, (WR), Kansas State, 2002
4.31 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami, 2001
4.31 - *Johnathan Joseph, (CB), South Carolina, 2006
4.32 - Tim Carter, (WR), Auburn, 2002
4.32 - *Orlando Scandrick, (CB), Boise State, 2008
4.32 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State, 2005
4.32 - Kevin Garrett, (CB), Southern Methodist, 2003
4.32 - Jason Hill, (WR), Washington State, 2007
4.32 - *Chris Houston, (CB), Arkansas, 2007
4.32 - *Troy Williamson, (WR), South Carolina, 2005
4.32 - *Chad Jackson, (WR), Florida, 2006
4.32 - Tim Jennings, (CB), Georgia, 2006
4.33 - Carlos Francis, (WR), Texas Tech, 2004
4.33 - *Darren McFadden, (RB), Arkansas, 2008
4.33 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin, 2001

[LLXC]

Do they still use this as their measurement? "Those who participate in the 40 actually run twice, and on each run they are timed by two hand-held stopwatches and one electronic timer (that is actually initiated by hand on the player's first movement)."

I'm surprised they don't use camera technology to initiate the electronic timer.

[rm18]

Following are the best 40 times and other data documented by NFLDraftScout.com in all Combines since 2000 to 2008, a Combine All-Century list:

Fastest 40-Yard Dash Times

4.24 - Chris Johnson, (RB), East Carolina, 2008
4.27 - Stanford Routt, (CB), Houston, 2005
4.28 - Jerome Mathis, (WR), Hampton, 2005
4.29 - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, (CB), Tennessee State, 2008
4.29 - *Fabian Washington, (CB), Nebraska, 2005
4.30 - Darrent Williams, (CB), Oklahoma State, 2005
4.30 - Yamon Figurs, (WR), Kansas State, 2007
4.31 - *Justin King, (CB), Penn State, 2008
4.31 - Tyvon Branch, (CB), Connecticut, 2008
4.31 - Michael Waddell, (CB), North Carolina, 2004
4.31 - Aaron Lockett, (WR), Kansas State, 2002
4.31 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami, 2001
4.31 - *Johnathan Joseph, (CB), South Carolina, 2006
4.32 - Tim Carter, (WR), Auburn, 2002
4.32 - *Orlando Scandrick, (CB), Boise State, 2008
4.32 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State, 2005
4.32 - Kevin Garrett, (CB), Southern Methodist, 2003
4.32 - Jason Hill, (WR), Washington State, 2007
4.32 - *Chris Houston, (CB), Arkansas, 2007
4.32 - *Troy Williamson, (WR), South Carolina, 2005
4.32 - *Chad Jackson, (WR), Florida, 2006
4.32 - Tim Jennings, (CB), Georgia, 2006
4.33 - Carlos Francis, (WR), Texas Tech, 2004
4.33 - *Darren McFadden, (RB), Arkansas, 2008
4.33 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin, 2001

No surprise the Raiders drafted the most players on that list

[Powderguy]

What's the price on this?

[coloradobuff]

was -115 both ways at sportsbook.com

[Jonah]

Sweet Prop. That will be a fun one to watch. Can't believe DRC was drafted so late with that time. It was obvious he had all the other skills and feel for the game.

[coloradobuff]

they moved number from 4.31 to 4.27

[Powderguy]

I wouldn't bet it anyways.

[Rig]

It'll be under or push

[Mini19]

Overr

[Tree Rollins]

they claim that at some point Deion ran a legit 4.1

[Jonah]

they moved number from 4.31 to 4.27

Bet the over.

[THEGREAT30]

are people really betting on this stuff, good day

[rm18]

I think Ford will still go under 4.27 but unlikely anyone else runs that

[Andy117]

NFL 40 times amuse me. Olympic sprinters don't run a 4.1 40. Usain Bolt's 40yd time was 4.35

[The Seer]

NFL 40 times amuse me. Olympic sprinters don't run a 4.1 40. Usain Bolt's 40yd time was 4.35

There is no suprise there. Combine times are legit. Bolt would get dusted in a lot of 40s but win out in 100s. He's built to run 100s. He has long legs and it takes him 60 meters to start hitting stride. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

[Richkas]

Over

[Chi_archie]

There is no suprise there. Combine times are legit. Bolt would get dusted in a lot of 40s but win out in 100s. He's built to run 100s. He has long legs and it takes him 60 meters to start hitting stride. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

true to an extent Bolt is built for the 100 and not the 40..... but to be factually correct, by 60-70 meters all world class 100 meter sprinters are slowing down. bolt might appear to have a burst or another gear in the last 3rd of the race, but in fact he is just slowing down less than the other sprinters.


speaking of comparing 40 yard times to 100 meter runners. another important thing to note. there is a huge difference in the way they are timed.

the 40 is measured from when the athlete makes his first move. track sprinters have to respond to the gun and go, which takes about .1 to .2 seconds right there.

I believe Bolts first 40 yards in his olympic 100 mater race was covered in 4.36 or 4.38. so taking away the .2 for reaction time to the gun. he would have run about a 4.16-4.18 through the first 40 yards. (his world record race would have been faster most likely)

but there is a very very different approach to running a 40 yard dash and a 100 meter. in the 40 you are gonna pop up a little bit earlier and be standing up straigh to get to full speed faster, while the 100 meter runner takes about 55 meters to hit top speed

[Rig]

4.27 now?
Go over

[teaserpleaser]

over

[Andy117]

There is no suprise there. Combine times are legit. Bolt would get dusted in a lot of 40s but win out in 100s. He's built to run 100s. He has long legs and it takes him 60 meters to start hitting stride. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

Ok, Ben Johnson who was built like a running back, his 40 split was 4.38

[Toronto Fc]

n/m.

[iwantcougars]

4.28 a wr from clemson

spiller 4.37

[The Seer]

true to an extent Bolt is built for the 100 and not the 40..... but to be factually correct, by 60-70 meters all world class 100 meter sprinters are slowing down. bolt might appear to have a burst or another gear in the last 3rd of the race, but in fact he is just slowing down less than the other sprinters. speaking of comparing 40 yard times to 100 meter runners. another important thing to note. there is a huge difference in the way they are timed. the 40 is measured from when the athlete makes his first move. track sprinters have to respond to the gun and go, which takes about .1 to .2 seconds right there. I believe Bolts first 40 yards in his olympic 100 mater race was covered in 4.36 or 4.38. so taking away the .2 for reaction time to the gun. he would have run about a 4.16-4.18 through the first 40 yards. (his world record race would have been faster most likely) but there is a very very different approach to running a 40 yard dash and a 100 meter. in the 40 you are gonna pop up a little bit earlier and be standing up straigh to get to full speed faster, while the 100 meter runner takes about 55 meters to hit top speed

Arch, they time those guns. That's why there are so many false starts. They don't sit and wait on it unless they have already false started.

[The Seer]

Ok, Ben Johnson who was built like a running back, his 40 split was 4.38

exactly my point. People are also forgetting that this is a sprinters lone job 365 days per year. Herschel Walker, Willie Gault, Darrel Green, Deion Sanders all ran at Olympic levels. The difference was they trained for it a couple of months per year. Had that been those guys full time jobs, their times would have been insane. I forget the year but Carl Lewis beat out Walker at the tape in the 60 with Walker weighing 230.

[Chi_archie]

what were the results?

is there a site where I can read all the performances in all the different tests?


have any of the really dumb wunderlich scores been leaked yet?

[rm18]

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers

I was right Ford did go under 4.31, no one else was too close. Most surprising to me Dexter McCluster only 4.58 thought that guy could fly. Most surprising fast time is ex hooper Jimmy Graham clocked at 4.56