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  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    With Favre at helm, Vikings to rule NFC North
    With Favre at helm, Vikings to rule NFC North

    With the exception of the Lions, the NFC North appears to be as wide open as any division this season. Leading the way right now are the Minnesota Vikings behind Adrian Peterson and, according to rumors, Brett Favre in their backfield. Favre's old mates in Green Bay would love nothing more than to make sure that doesn't happen and will be cutting loose a new 3-4 defensive scheme behind new assistant coach Dom Capers.

    The Detroit Lions are probably not going to win the NFC North. Other than that, anything can happen in the most old-school of football’s divisions.

    All four teams in the NFC North have become household names – even the Minnesota Vikings, who were established in 1961 after abandoning plans to join the upstart American Football League. The Vikings have an NFL championship and four Super Bowl losses to their name. This year, they’re favored to win the division thanks to the expected arrival of a Super Bowl-winning quarterback. Here were the betting odds on the futures market for all four teams at press time, which have remained stable since the open.
    • Minnesota Vikings 3-2
    • Chicago Bears 8-5
    • Green Bay Packers 2-1
    • Detroit Lions 12-1



    The Vikings did win the division last year at 10-6 (6-10 ATS), but it was like pulling hen’s teeth. Minnesota fans are looking for salvation in the form of Brett Favre. He officially retired from the New York Jets after one season (22 TDs, 22 INTs, 81.0 QB rating) and is expected to un-retire for the second time in his career to join the Vikings. The NFL Network and the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported on Monday that Favre has put down $30,000 on a condo in the Minnesota area.

    Even assuming Favre can still sling the football in his age 40 season, Minnesota was ranked No. 28 among the 32 teams in adjusted sack rate (8.8 percent of plays, on 43 total sacks). RB Adrian Peterson is a tremendous threat to bust downfield on any play, but he also gets stopped at the line far too often and still fumbles the ball on occasion – nine times in 2008, losing four. The Vikings finished the year ranked No. 15 in adjusted line yards at 4.21 per play.

    It’s on defense that the Vikings truly shine at No. 4 overall in team efficiency according to Football Outsiders, balanced between stopping the run and the pass. But losing safety Darren Sharper to the Saints will make life tougher in Minnesota, and the offense will also suffer from the departure of center Matt Birk. The Vikings only had five picks in the entry draft; first-rounder Percy Harvin is a promising deep threat at wideout, but might have trouble producing on the same team as Bernard Berrian (20.1 yards per catch). Second-round pick Phil Loadholt could help the offensive line at nearly 6-foot-8 and 330 pounds, if he can put to rest the questions surrounding his character.

    Favre’s former team could yet have its revenge. Nobody’s questioning whether the Packers made the right decision to go with QB Aaron Rodgers after his outstanding first year under center: 28 TD passes, 13 INTs and a sparkling 93.8 passer rating. Green Bay’s troubles last year (6-10 SU, 8-8 ATS) had more to do with a defensive line that was ranked No. 25 against the run. New defensive co-ordinator Dom Capers will make the switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4, using first-round pick B.J. Raji at nose tackle. The secondary is still a huge question mark – this team might need another year of seasoning.

    The Chicago Bears (9-7 SU, 6-8-2 ATS) have gone through more upheaval than anyone in the division, dealing QB Kyle Orton (18 TDs, 12 INTs, 79.6 QB rating) to the Denver Broncos in a package that brings highly coveted Jay Cutler (25 TDs, 18 INTs, 86.0 QB rating) to the Windy City. That’s an upgrade, but the Bears’ offensive line also shed John St. Clair and John Tait, and Chicago waited until the seventh round before picking guard Lance Louis from San Diego State. Again, it could be a year or two before Cutler is surrounded by enough talent to contend for a division title.

    That leaves the Lions, who were winless last year at 0-16 (7-9 ATS). They’ll have a new coach in Jim Schwartz and a new QB in first-overall pick Matthew Stafford from Georgia. Daunte Culpepper (four TDs, six INTs, 63.9 QB rating) may or may not start the season to protect Stafford from the beating he’d likely get playing behind one of the worst offensive lines in the league. The Lions do have some quality receivers as well as hope for improvement on defense, so taking them ATS on a game-per-game basis could be profitable. A division title? Good luck with that.

    My picks: 1. Minnesota Vikings 2. Green Bay Packers 3. Chicago Bears 4. Detroit Lions
  • rezkoness69
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-16-09
    • 249

    #2
    You're severly underrating the bears O line this year, it will be better than last year. Also, Brett Favre is not going to be a savior in Minnesota. He never liked playing in domes and he's coming off shoulder surgery.
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    • BobHarvey
      SBR MVP
      • 07-08-08
      • 3987

      #3
      Chance,

      Have you got confirmation yet on Favre coming out of retirement? I hope he does.
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      • BestPlay2day
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-25-08
        • 5794

        #4
        Originally posted by BobHarvey
        Chance,

        Have you got confirmation yet on Favre coming out of retirement? I hope he does.
        Farve signing with the Vikings will definately happen before training camp in my opinion. If Farve is healthy, Vikings can make a deep run in the playoffs. TJack is a joke for a starting qb and Farve is a huge upgrade to the Vikings biggest weakness.
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        • DwightShrute
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-17-09
          • 103493

          #5
          1. Bears 2. Packers 3. Vikings 4. Lions
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #6
            Originally posted by DwightShrute
            1. Bears 2. Packers 3. Vikings 4. Lions
            Perfect
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            • DrStale
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-07-08
              • 9692

              #7
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              1. Bears 2. Packers 3. Vikings 4. Lions
              My biased opinion puts the Packers first, thought it will be close. People thinking Favre's gonna improve the Vikings makes me laugh.
              Originally posted by Dark Horse
              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Favre is washed up, he will only hurt Vikings.

                The other view is that the other two QB's are worse than him

                So I guess it does not matter who plays
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                • HoulihansTX
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 02-12-09
                  • 30566

                  #9
                  Yea Packers are going to win it this year. All they need to do is shore up that D-Line.
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                  • rezkoness69
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 02-16-09
                    • 249

                    #10
                    Packers are bringing in a whole new D though? What happens when they run up against the "high-powered bears offense" (for the first time in my life, this is not a joke)....the vikings won't finish better than 8-8
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                    • Smogs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-31-08
                      • 4173

                      #11
                      I like the packers a lot this year, i'm hoping the LB's are going to close down the run to stop those friggin 3-8's that turned into a first down.

                      Also, with GB's schedule, 9 wins at least should be attainable
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                      • slacker00
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-06-05
                        • 12262

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BestPlay2day
                        Farve signing with the Vikings will definately happen before training camp in my opinion. If Farve is healthy, Vikings can make a deep run in the playoffs. TJack is a joke for a starting qb and Farve is a huge upgrade to the Vikings biggest weakness.
                        Tavaris Jackson probably gets a bum rap. I still think he can be a legitimate NFL starter. He just finished his 3rd season in the NFL. Not many quality NFL QBs were lighting it up this early in their career anyway. Granted, he's had his chance to shit or get off the pot and he hasn't really lit it up. Maybe if he can sit behind Favre and watch how it's done, he can figure it out.

                        But I agree that the Vikings are really only a QB short of a legit Super Bowl run. Favre could probably throw left handed and get these Vikings into the playoffs. I've never seen this team this stacked from top to bottom.
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                        • Scorpion
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-04-05
                          • 7797

                          #13
                          Michael Jackson kids

                          sperm was provided by his dermetologist
                          eggs by Brooke Shields
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                          • DrStale
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-07-08
                            • 9692

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rezkoness69
                            Packers are bringing in a whole new D though? What happens when they run up against the "high-powered bears offense" (for the first time in my life, this is not a joke)....the vikings won't finish better than 8-8

                            The "high powered Bears offense"'s main receiving threat is Devin Hester. Cutler or no Cutler, you need someone to catch the ball.
                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                            If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                            • jkrap27
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 02-20-09
                              • 75

                              #15
                              Favre is old and busted and everyone is getting sick of his act but he does make the nfc north more interesting. Good or bad, success or failure, he will entertain.
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                              • Tsoprano
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 04-14-08
                                • 26374

                                #16
                                Fukk a Favre
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                                • KingJIM
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 06-25-09
                                  • 757

                                  #17
                                  1 Detroit(Superbowl Winners) 2 Bears(Wildcard) 3 Vikings 4 Packers.
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                                  • KingJIM
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 06-25-09
                                    • 757

                                    #18
                                    Obviously just kidding about Detroit. I think they pack it in, change their name to Lionettes and move to the Canadian Football League and lose in first round of Grey Cup Playoffs.

                                    Winner of division will probably be 9-7 or 10-6. Probably pretty close race between bears + vikings with packers right near them. Each should go 2-0 versus Lions and if a team loses to lions they will be out of race.
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                                    • RICHIE801
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-25-09
                                      • 393

                                      #19
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                                      • RICHIE801
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 05-25-09
                                        • 393

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rezkoness69
                                        Packers are bringing in a whole new D though? What happens when they run up against the "high-powered bears offense" (for the first time in my life, this is not a joke)....the vikings won't finish better than 8-8
                                        I was thinkin more 7-9 with Favre.
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                                        • slacker00
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-06-05
                                          • 12262

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RICHIE801
                                          I was thinkin more 7-9 with Favre.
                                          So, they go 10-6 with 37 year old Gus Frerotte & the kid Tavaris, but 7-9 with Favre? I'm not sure why everyone is hating on Favre so much. He took a crap Jets team from 4-12 to 9-7 last year, with an injured shoulder. He certainly can take a playoff Vikings team to the next level in the playoffs at least.



                                          Originally posted by DrStale
                                          The "high powered Bears offense"'s main receiving threat is Devin Hester. Cutler or no Cutler, you need someone to catch the ball.
                                          Cutler is playing for Chicago. I'm not sure what you mean by "no Cutler". Bears have a legit franchise QB for the first time since I've been alive and I'm old.

                                          Cutler did his magic in Denver with mid-round rookie WRs Marshall & Royal. I like the two WRs the Bears got in the draft this year. I expect Cutler to do the same thing in Chicago. Keep an eye on those guys, maybe a sleeper pick in your fantasy drafts.
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                                          • Bogart45
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 11-21-08
                                            • 379

                                            #22
                                            Vikings would be better off without Farve.
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                                            • waco66
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-14-09
                                              • 1645

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by rezkoness69
                                              "high-powered bears offense" (for the first time in my life, this is not a joke).




                                              Packers will destroy those bears game 1.
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                                              • rezkoness69
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 02-16-09
                                                • 249

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by waco66
                                                :lma o:


                                                Packers will destroy those bears game 1.
                                                Don't think so waco. As a matter of fact I'm already looking on placing a sizable wager on the Bears +3 in that opening weekend sunday nighter. Don't forget about Greg Olsen or Desmond clark for that matter when talking about cutler's targets
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82841

                                                  #25
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                                                  • waco66
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-14-09
                                                    • 1645

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rezkoness69
                                                    Don't think so waco. As a matter of fact I'm already looking on placing a sizable wager on the Bears +3 in that opening weekend sunday nighter. Don't forget about Greg Olsen or Desmond clark for that matter when talking about cutler's targets

                                                    I hope you do.
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