Be careful tonight

RRNJ13 · 10-03-16, 09:30 AM

The Vikings are a solid team but yes everyone is on them and that's scary.

Snake24 · 10-03-16, 09:33 AM

Defense is solid. Not so much on the offensive side. Limited weapons compared to the Redskins.

sportsfan9698 · 10-03-16, 09:43 AM

Bradford is a upgrade from Bridgewater

McKinnon is an upgrade from an aging LT (I realize most do not think that YET)

Diggs is the best WR the Vikings have had since Moss, and arguably one of the very best in the NFL.

RRNJ13 · 10-03-16, 09:55 AM

What about the giants? not exactly world beaters Horrible defense (secondary) Running game banged up I give the vikings the edge in all 3 phases of the game not to mention home field. Bradford should have a better and better grasp of the O each week. If Minnesota loses it's because they turn the ball over which has not been a problem this year. Been a Viking fan almost 50 years If the defense stays healthy this team has a shot the NFC is up for grabs this year Green Bay beatable Carolina and Seattle not as good as past years Nobody in the East is scary. Lean on Vikings and Over tonight I think Bradford hits a few shots down field tonight Best of Luck to all

Time is Money · 10-03-16, 10:11 AM

Giants ALWAYS show up in games like this, back against the wall dogs when nobody is picking them they shine the brightest. There are some weak spots in that secondary for Minnesota as well, Newman and Waynes can get cooked by Shepard and Cruz tonight. Giants strong up front on that DLine, not buying into McKinnon being better than AD. Has the speed but nowhere near the amount of power.

GzaTheGenius · 10-03-16, 10:19 AM

Giants secondary is basically missing, as well as a bunch of other injuries. Probably lose next 2 games.

A lot more money placed on NY too and line still moved to -4 , Vikings are the pick guys

44 Mag · 10-03-16, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by Time is Money

Giants ALWAYS show up in games like this, back against the wall dogs when nobody is picking them they shine the brightest. There are some weak spots in that secondary for Minnesota as well, Newman and Waynes can get cooked by Shepard and Cruz tonight. Giants strong up front on that DLine, not buying into McKinnon being better than AD. Has the speed but nowhere near the amount of power.

So, leaning over 43 ???

p4$$ion · 10-03-16, 10:33 AM

everyone here was on denver yesterday too and they won by 20.

Time is Money · 10-03-16, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by p4$$ion

everyone here was on denver yesterday too and they won by 20.

More often than not, especially MNF this board gets buried.

Time is Money · 10-03-16, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by 44 Mag

So, leaning over 43 ???

Giants points & over.

Snake24 · 10-03-16, 10:37 AM

Thanks for the posts fellas. Great commentary and GL to all.

ThePsychologist · 10-03-16, 10:55 AM

Take the Vikings and do not overthink it

BetweenHerCheeks · 10-03-16, 12:13 PM

UNDER is the play here....everybody on over

jtoler · 10-03-16, 12:49 PM

Vikes winning because theyve been forcing turnovers, if they dont force turnovers then they dont win simple as that. They cant run, last in the league in rushing, 27th out of 32 in passing. Possible burial in the making. If they get behind good luck. Bradford had a good game against Green Bay but still threw below what they normally give up in the passing game. He's still Sam Bradford but with a much better defense.

sportsfan9698 · 10-03-16, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Vikes winning because theyve been forcing turnovers, if they dont force turnovers then they dont win simple as that. They cant run, last in the league in rushing, 27th out of 32 in passing. Possible burial in the making. If they get behind good luck.

No doubt that turnovers can totally flip a games outcome... but on the other hand, turnovers are not random. They are due to pressure, and good coaching and film work. Vikings have been getting them, and you should not expect that to stop anytime soon

RRNJ13 · 10-03-16, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Vikes winning because theyve been forcing turnovers, if they dont force turnovers then they dont win simple as that. They cant run, last in the league in rushing, 27th out of 32 in passing. Possible burial in the making. If they get behind good luck. Bradford had a good game against Green Bay but still threw below what they normally give up in the passing game. He's still Sam Bradford but with a much better defense.

What do the Giants do well? The defense is a joke Secondary stinks , They are banged up and probably wont be able to run ( running Back banged up ), They are on the road They couldn't beat New Orleans or Washington both with defenses that couldn't stop high school teams. So they are going to toss it up to Cruz and Beckham not exactly a world beating game plan. I expect Manning to get hit hard and often. I'll take the over 31 - 20 and Minnesota ML

Time is Money · 10-03-16, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by RRNJ13

What do the Giants do well? The defense is a joke Secondary stinks , They are banged up and probably wont be able to run ( running Back banged up ), They are on the road They couldn't beat New Orleans or Washington both with defenses that couldn't stop high school teams. So they are going to toss it up to Cruz and Beckham not exactly a world beating game plan. I expect Manning to get hit hard and often. I'll take the over 31 - 20 and Minnesota ML

Giants have a very strong DLine. It's being vastly understated just how bad the Vikings are in the trenches offensively, that O Line is bottom 5 in the entire league. Bradford will face pressure, Eli is much more poised under pressure than Bradford. Janoris Jenkins is solid, especially in the red zone he's easily one of the best redzone corners in the league. Landon Collins from the secondary is a light Kam Chancellor, he's a bit suspect in coverage but I'm not worried about a Vikings passing game that's in the bottom 5.

jtoler · 10-03-16, 01:09 PM

Originally posted by RRNJ13

What do the Giants do well? The defense is a joke Secondary stinks , They are banged up and probably wont be able to run ( running Back banged up ), They are on the road They couldn't beat New Orleans or Washington both with defenses that couldn't stop high school teams. So they are going to toss it up to Cruz and Beckham not exactly a world beating game plan. I expect Manning to get hit hard and often. I'll take the over 31 - 20 and Minnesota ML

Sigh. The Giants are 3rd in the league in total defense right behind the Vikes. How are the Vikes gonna score 31? Eli could throw 3 or 4 picks I guess but barring he doesnt how are they gonna do it? Giants also average 140 more yards of offense I expect some balancing out here but still.

Snake24 · 10-03-16, 02:18 PM

It should be an simple defensive game to call for both teams. Top running backs are out for both sides. Both O-Lines aren't that good. Neither QB is mobile.

Eli and the offense will not be in any hurry to score points. They'll use their no huddle packages all game.

sportsfan9698 · 10-03-16, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Snake24

It should be an simple defensive game to call for both teams. Top running backs are out for both sides. Both O-Lines aren't that good. Neither QB is mobile.

Eli and the offense will not be in any hurry to score points. They'll use their no huddle packages all game.

I get the feeling you have not yet met Mr Jerick McKinnon... you will know him better in a few hours

jtoler · 10-03-16, 02:24 PM

Vikes should win easily if you go by ratings.

Snake24 · 10-03-16, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by sportsfan9698

I get the feeling you have not yet met Mr Jerick McKinnon... you will know him better in a few hours

No sir. Can he go?

Snake24 · 10-03-16, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by RRNJ13

What do the Giants do well? The defense is a joke Secondary stinks , They are banged up and probably wont be able to run ( running Back banged up ), They are on the road They couldn't beat New Orleans or Washington both with defenses that couldn't stop high school teams. So they are going to toss it up to Cruz and Beckham not exactly a world beating game plan. I expect Manning to get hit hard and often. I'll take the over 31 - 20 and Minnesota ML

Why not take the -4.5 then?

jtoler · 10-03-16, 02:30 PM

McKinnon is really good, small, but quick and fast. He needs blocking like anyone else though. Maybe they can utilize him in the flats not sure if they line him up anywhere else.

sportsfan9698 · 10-03-16, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Snake24

No sir. Can he go?

Reporting from rotoworld says most of his teammates say he is the best athlete on the team. They don't say things like that for hype. I picked him up, and expect he will be better than a healthy AP... guy is old and ineffective

doitnow · 10-03-16, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by BetweenHerCheeks

UNDER is the play here....everybody on over

sources?

Time is Money · 10-03-16, 02:41 PM

McKinnon has been around for 3 years now, everytime AD gets hurt this kid comes in and does okay but never anything special. I don't expect him to break out, he's decent but he has no power at all. Goes down on first contact.

sportsfan9698 · 10-03-16, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Time is Money

McKinnon has been around for 3 years now, everytime AD gets hurt this kid comes in and does okay but never anything special. I don't expect him to break out, he's decent but he has no power at all. Goes down on first contact.

I suppose, but I am rooting for him. My point was that NOW present time McKinnon is a better RB than AP... AP was not running well at all this season before getting injured

Snake24 · 10-03-16, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by sportsfan9698

I suppose, but I am rooting for him. My point was that NOW present time McKinnon is a better RB than AP... AP was not running well at all this season before getting injured

They are dead last with 51 rushing ypg and 28th in passing ypg.

RRNJ13 · 10-03-16, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Snake24

Why not take the -4.5 then?

Snake to be completely honest I'm on the over I don't play sides in any Vikings games have not for years. feel like I'm a jinx if I'm on em or against em. So I just play totals on Viking games. The vikings are clearly the better team they are home and if the giants are without a running game Tossing the ball long to Beckham 8 times won't get it done. If you look at the first 3 weeks nothing says the Giants compete here all banged up in the running game and D secondary. The only thing that scares me is every tout and 90 percent of forums on are Minnesota. Good luck to you I think the Vikings win and more than likely cover.

ps. I also expect Bradford to get better each week and think he hits a couple of big shots down field tonight verse a garbage Giant secondary

sportsfan9698 · 10-03-16, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by Snake24

They are dead last with 51 rushing ypg and 28th in passing ypg.

This is one of those cases where stats only tell you have of the story. It is hard to have plenty of offensive production when you are killing teams on the scoreboard. It makes it even harder when you keep getting turnovers on their end of the field.

The one thing you certainly want in fantasy football is a competent QB or WR that plays for a team that is consistently trying to come from behind (Rivers, Brees, Payton a few years back)

The Hat · 10-03-16, 03:17 PM

Vikes and under....I put the farm and the ol lady up on it

Manning struggles big with this D.

...and the G-Men have no D! 4 sacks on the year and no picks

27-6 vikings

vegasridah · 10-03-16, 03:34 PM

Vikings and under 43

You can take that to the bank and cash it!

Notorious_Donk · 10-03-16, 03:35 PM

Ben McAdoo, Giants head coach, knows Minnesota very well from his time coaching in GB. Expect him to be ready for this game.