Someone make a case for the Browns

[POOLSIDE]

Line keeps going up and up. It's at -13 now. Feels like a burial coming but I'm not sure how.

[pimike]

Bengals not as good as people think nor are Browns as bad as people think.

A let down after going in Pittsburgh and winning late. Dalton last week showed his true colors.

Tons of points in a division game.

Just a few to try to answer question.

[POOLSIDE]

I agree with all of those. I'm leaning Cleveland but Manziel scares me. Not because I think he sucks, but because I have no idea what to expect or how many first team reps he's receiving. They're not gonna beat Cincy on a limited playbook.

[pimike]

He will be fine in this spot. 13 is a key #

What scares me is the key injuries to Hayden and their safety out.

But 13 is a key #

[eddycash]

im thinking cinci 1st h -7 then a johnny drunken back door 2nd h for the ful spread cover but who really knows

[Renegades]

Manziel has looked so bad, I dont know how they will score enough. I dont thk clev has the defense to shut down cincy. Cincy offense is much more explosive this yr and clev is banged up on defense

[sshz]

Check Cleve injuries again......they are missing some key clogs. I expect Cincy to run, run and run into a bad Cleve run Defense.

[paco]

Division game on a Thursday night against a undefeated team with many 10 point teasers to close with cincy

[paco]

With all that said,

[pimike]

Browns came to play.

[2Shirts]

Their D really needs to step up though to make this a game.

Browns came to play.

[pilebuck13]

13 was a balancing act Manziel looking like Wilson rolling out like that lol

[pilebuck13]

Hey mike petine let the kid throw how ever he's most comfortable retard on tv saying I want him to make throws in pocket who cares jeez

[Fred The Hammer]

Good game now....zebras gifted the Bengals that last td? Nobody jumped offsides for Cleveland on 4th/2 so somebody must've lined up offsides? The linesman used to warn the D that they were offsides so the play would be legal....what happened? That taunting was bs too....guy didn't do a damn thing? They said he stood over him? If you tackle someone and you're laying on him then what are you supposed to do? Roll 5 yards away before you stand up? He just stood up and walked away?

[Fred The Hammer]

Hey mike petine let the kid throw how ever he's most comfortable retard on tv saying I want him to make throws in pocket who cares jeez

That coach is terrible. Coaches are more important than ever with all these close games and his clock management is horrible.