What a "sharp" line on TEX/MIZZOU eh?

BigDofBA · 01-30-12, 11:13 PM

Yep. That's why I don't bet games like that very often.

All of that stress for nothing.

sjm5122 · 01-30-12, 11:13 PM

I think Texas thought it was a tie game the way they burned the entire clock only to force up a brick.

No coincidences · 01-30-12, 11:13 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Yep. That's why I don't bet games like that very often.

All of that stress for nothing.

Someone with deep pockets out there is smiling.

MoneyLineDawg · 01-30-12, 11:15 PM

Waited till the end and took mizzou ml +105

Do not understand mizzou running the clock out and shutting down on offense with a 10 point lead and 5 minutes left......or was that all part of "the plan"

bballs84 · 01-30-12, 11:18 PM

Anybody else see a foul with .7 left.. Looks like the Refs swallowed their whistle there

BigDofBA · 01-30-12, 11:19 PM

Both teams did some stupid shit. Texas didn't even give themselves a chance. Why shoot with 3 seconds left?

Lol. Oh well I'm glad they lost.

tatddy · 01-30-12, 11:19 PM

Yeah not sure why Texas wanted to run out the clock at home. Mizzou came out with that zone and stomped them. Outcoached, Horns.

BigDofBA · 01-30-12, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by bballs84

Anybody else see a foul with .7 left.. Looks like the Refs swallowed their whistle there

They showed it in slow motion. The Texas player slapped his arm with like 1.6 left. The ref just kept running off the Court. Lol.

robinhood · 01-30-12, 11:21 PM

People that have been critical of Rick Barnes are right. The last shot was full of idiocy.

bballs84 · 01-30-12, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

They showed it in slow motion. The Texas player slapped his arm with like 1.6 left. The ref just kept running off the Court. Lol.

Guess that is what I get for putting it in last night at 1.5

No coincidences · 01-30-12, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by robinhood

People that have been critical of Rick Barnes are right. The last shot was full of idiocy.

He's a buffoon.

BernardMadoff · 01-31-12, 12:09 AM

If set at pK, everybody would have gotten paid just about.

romoney · 01-31-12, 12:11 AM

this game was soo wacky..i went small on the better experienced team MIZZOU...and got em at a PK...but hell whatever happened before the game started...ie line movement, Ill just take my win and move on..whew..

nyplayer33 · 01-31-12, 12:53 AM

the line movement means crap, every time someone mentions trap game they are wrong 50 percent of the time..it's really a bunch of nonesense. Missouri was the better team and if they played a smarter game and were more expereiwenced they would of won by 10 plus points..

convick · 01-31-12, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by nyplayer33

the line movement means crap, every time someone mentions trap game they are wrong 50 percent of the time..it's really a bunch of nonesense. Missouri was the better team and if they played a smarter game and were more expereiwenced they would of won by 10 plus points..

Could have, would have, should have. If Mizzou was any good they would not have lost to OkState. If Kansas was better, they would have blown Texas out by 25 when they played them in Austin.

Youre missing the big picture here. Mizzou was the right side (pk/ml), but so was Texas. (+1.5, +2)

Sadly, I waited until too late and got a fukkin bad number (Texas -1.5). I really thought they would win by 2-3.

drfunkmaster · 01-31-12, 03:17 AM

I had mizzo +1.5 !!!!

Jago2008 · 01-31-12, 06:42 AM

Under ftw.

grizzlies1 · 01-31-12, 09:59 AM

No Coin are you fukcing delirious pal? A "whale" cashing both ways

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So let me get this straight...some big timer wan'ts to make some money last night. So first of all he picks the most high profile game of the night. Then he goes to the trouble of having to pay off the refs and BOTH teams to ensure that Mizzou wins by 1?? Are you fukking kidding me.

PLEASE tell me this. If said "whale" wants to cash in why the fukk would he go to all that trouble when he could just pick a side, pay the refs to ensure that side covers and then bet the total amount on that side that he was gonna put on both sides so he could "cash that bitch both ways"

Do you see what I'm saying here? Talk about the whale choosing to make things difficult for himself just to impress conspiracy theorists like yourself.

No coincidences · 01-31-12, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by grizzlies1

No Coin are you fukcing delirious pal? A "whale" cashing both ways

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So let me get this straight...some big timer wan'ts to make some money last night. So first of all he picks the most high profile game of the night. Then he goes to the trouble of having to pay off the refs and BOTH teams to ensure that Mizzou wins by 1?? Are you fukking kidding me.

PLEASE tell me this. If said "whale" wants to cash in why the fukk would he go to all that trouble when he could just pick a side, pay the refs to ensure that side covers and then bet the total amount on that side that he was gonna put on both sides so he could "cash that bitch both ways"

Do you see what I'm saying here? Talk about the whale choosing to make things difficult for himself just to impress conspiracy theorists like yourself.

Did you see the violent line swings both ML and spread?

If you don't think a sharp double dipped big time here and cashed both the Missouri ML at + money and Texas at +1.5 -- or, at the very least, scalping both ML's at + money -- then I can't help explain it further. It's pretty basic.

Chong Wizard · 01-31-12, 02:25 PM

I got ****** on this game... was gonna grab Texas at +1.5 but I wanted to see if there was any RLM before I placed my bet and sure enough I waited until Texas was -1... so I take the ML... and got ******!

Betn247 · 01-31-12, 02:35 PM

The refs tried to give the game to Texas......Flagrant for backing the guy off of you get the F**k out of here MIZZOU was the better team in all stages of the game and thus they cashed me took it early Mizzou Pick!

tatddy · 01-31-12, 03:08 PM

Refs definitely were keeping Texas in this one. Mizzou should have won by 10+ going away.

No coincidences · 01-31-12, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by tatddy

Refs definitely were keeping Texas in this one. Mizzou should have won by 10+ going away.

I was on Texas +1 and I agree.

grizzlies1 · 01-31-12, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Did you see the violent line swings both ML and spread?

If you don't think a sharp double dipped big time here and cashed both the Missouri ML at + money and Texas at +1.5 -- or, at the very least, scalping both ML's at + money -- then I can't help explain it further. It's pretty basic.

Fair enough. I'm not trying to be a dick and do respect that you are one of the guys round here with an open mind who is up for a debate.

So to clarify for me do you think a big time sharp aka whale took both sides at +1.5 and had a hand in fixing the game so he won both? Or he's just incredibly skilled/lucky.

The reason I ask is assuming he's not involved in a fix he is leaving himself an incredibly small margin to hit his middle. What % of games are decided by 1pt? I have no evidence but I'd guess 1/100 maybe??

I've had several middle opportunities when I've bought a line early but I don't take them because it's more than likely I'll just lose the juice. That's only $8 for me on my $80 units but no doubt a lot more for the whale.

Could it be that two big timers both liked the game...but like different sides?

DerekMadden · 01-31-12, 03:21 PM

the point of it was not to middle the game. but hedge it and hope for a middle expecting a very close game.

what NC is saying (correct me if I'm wrong NC), is if he got the Mizzou ML at +115 for example

then put 100k on it to win 115k
the line movement would have moved to Mizzou side and Tx +1.5 at -110

if he puts it at 110k to win 100K

it is a guaranteed 15k win

if he middles (which he was lucky enough to have done) then it is a 215K win

YouHave2outs · 01-31-12, 03:22 PM

grizz i'm with you. i'm sure some people got both sides at + money or hit the middle but am wondering the same thing as you.

nocoin are you really suggesting the rig was on or that sharps just cleaned on the close game?

Chong Wizard · 01-31-12, 03:23 PM

I hate when you know which side the refs want to give the game to and you bet on it because of that... and the team.. Texas in this case still isn't good enough to win the game... even with all the help from the refs...

grizzlies1 · 01-31-12, 03:35 PM

I see, I see. So the proposed whale smashed one ML at +115 then the other money line also at +115 guaranteeing 15% profit.

You would have to think the books would have some sort of safeguard in place against this. Every week there are several games where one team is -1/1.5 and so in theory someone with a large enough bank roll doesn't need to know anything about sport, they just need to know how much they need to bet on the dog ML at +115 to make that dog a fave. And then are guaranteed thousands of dollars of profit per week. Nice work if you can get it.

The only worry is if you put $100k on the dog ML at +115 and they didn't move the line...then you very well could be fukked!

Betn247 · 01-31-12, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by grizzlies1

I see, I see. So the proposed whale smashed one ML at +115 then the other money line also at +115 guaranteeing 15% profit. You would have to think the books would have some sort of safeguard in place against this. Every week there are several games where one team is -1/1.5 and so in theory someone with a large enough bank roll doesn't need to know anything about sport, they just need to know how much they need to bet on the dog ML at +115 to make that dog a fave. And then are guaranteed thousands of dollars of profit per week. Nice work if you can get it. The only worry is if you put $100k on the dog ML at +115 and they didn't move the line...then you very well could be fukked!

Using Multiple books cant stop it

DerekMadden · 01-31-12, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by grizzlies1

I see, I see. So the proposed whale smashed one ML at +115 then the other money line also at +115 guaranteeing 15% profit. You would have to think the books would have some sort of safeguard in place against this. Every week there are several games where one team is -1/1.5 and so in theory someone with a large enough bank roll doesn't need to know anything about sport, they just need to know how much they need to bet on the dog ML at +115 to make that dog a fave. And then are guaranteed thousands of dollars of profit per week. Nice work if you can get it. The only worry is if you put $100k on the dog ML at +115 and they didn't move the line...then you very well could be fukked!

that's why you pick the team that is the more talented team. let's face it, this game it was Mizzou by far