Kpom sun 2/27

**stlboomer** · 03-10-11, 05:45 PM

All I know is since he started charging, he's 0-5. The first two games this morning won but they were available to everyone. Hope he improves!!!!!

**soxwin** · 03-10-11, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

Definitely agree with that... Plenty of haters particularly here in this SubForum for no good reason... As mentioned, you don't have to be good to be a tout... But I totally disagree with you on the "sped up by the treatment" aspect... He is an NCAA capper... the only thing "Sped up" by the process is that little tourney that starts on Tuesday... Most of the others.. Therber, Todays Action, others had LONG standing reps here, despite ALL the haters that that trolled into their threads... They sucked it up because they loved what they did, particularly when everyone was winning... and because they didn't to hate on potential customers... simple customer service... There are clearly a few guys I wouldn't bat one eyelash to pay $25-$50 a month to use... Sweetjones, LakerCrazy's Totals, and Sawyer's NHL to name 3... All winners throughout an entire season, if not 2 seasons... Wouldn't phase me one bit... Big LGO barely got here, and now he's charging? For real??

Going pay for play 4 days before the tourney isn't going to help him @ all for this year. He may get a couple of sales based on some who he made money for here, but overall that is nothing. These forums aren't where you make your money as a paid capper. You make it from marketing, marketing and marketing. 4 days before the tourney isn't nearly enough time to take advantage of this NCAA tourney.

BB you keep mentioning that you can't believe he is charging after such a short time here. I say he waited 2 weeks too long to do it. If he had 2 weeks of time of marketing under him he would have made a lot more than he will right now.

Believe it or not there are thousands of cappers out there who don't even know forums like this exist, never mind ever made a post on one.

**ManBearPig** · 03-10-11, 05:55 PM

I think they are way over priced for what you get. $150/wk for all the plays? Really?!? PCG and the Judge are way cheaper than that and they're proven to be winners and still are, plus they provide information you can't get anywhere else.

You have to wonder if they're overvaluing their plays and didn't do themselves any favors by pricing out many people. I don't have to have an MBA to know that you have to ease into these things and from what I've seen and read this was a surprise to everyone although he claims differently. Each to their own though and they are free to do whatever they want, but I just don't see the value in paying for their picks when there are plenty around here for free.

**darkstar77** · 03-10-11, 05:58 PM

Pick: Knicks +5.5 (-110)

Pick: Georgia Tech +5 (-110)

Pick: Cal St Fullerton +1' (-110)

Pick: Rice +4.5 (-110)

Pick: Sam Houston State -5.5 (-110)

Pick: UC Santa Barbara +1 (-110)

Pick: Colorado State +3.5 (-110)

Pick: Penn State -4 (-110)

Pick: Marshall +5 (-110)

Pick: Vanderbilt -13 (-110)

Pick: Tennesee -6 (-110)

Pick: Kent st. +1 (-110)

Pick: NC State +6 (-110)

Pick: Notre Dame -2 (-110)

Pick: Long Beach St. -10 (-110)

Pick: California +3.5 (-110)

Pick: Miami OH +3.5 (-110)

**suman** · 03-10-11, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

Pick: Knicks +5.5 (-110)

Pick: Georgia Tech +5 (-110)

Pick: Cal St Fullerton +1' (-110)

Pick: Rice +4.5 (-110)

Pick: Sam Houston State -5.5 (-110)

Pick: UC Santa Barbara +1 (-110)

Pick: Colorado State +3.5 (-110)

Pick: Penn State -4 (-110)

Pick: Marshall +5 (-110)

Pick: Vanderbilt -13 (-110)

Pick: Tennesee -6 (-110)

Pick: Kent st. +1 (-110)

Pick: NC State +6 (-110)

Pick: Notre Dame -2 (-110)

Pick: Long Beach St. -10 (-110)

Pick: California +3.5 (-110)

Pick: Miami OH +3.5 (-110)

Where these his plays for today

Or are they yours

**ManBearPig** · 03-10-11, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by suman

Where these his plays for today

Or are they yours

Won't matter since they'll probably get deleted soon anyways...if the whole thread doesn't get relocated.

**thorn** · 03-10-11, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by William Walters

I called this a week ago. Dude is a fraud! He tried this over at the RX and got booted from the site be mods who found that he had multiple ghosts propping his plays, bumping his thread, and hitting "refresh" over and over to bump thread views. Anybody that considers paying for his plays should first go search "El Stugoto" at the RX and check out his horrific track record and reputation. His "bet the mortgage" plays were legendarily bad.

Yeah nice call. Just as you predicted he's now claiming that it wasn't his decision to go tout and his mystery (read: imaginary) pay clients made him do it. One day he's saying he is still tweaking his system, the next he says he's been doing this for 4 years. I feel a bit sorry for the suckers that are paying him for picks that will hit around 50% long term but they will learn a costly but ultimately valuable lesson so maybe it's for the best.

**darkstar77** · 03-10-11, 06:08 PM

Originally posted by suman

Where these his plays for today

Or are they yours

Those are LGO pay picks today and no I did not pay for them nor have I played them. I dont need to start in an 0-6 hole. I can do that myself by having my two year old son pick teams out of a hat.

**William Walters** · 03-10-11, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

He's off to a hot 2-6 start from what I hear.

And the two wins were still free ones on Twitter so the pay plays are 0-6.

Great day to start charging. Bunch of dumb phucks who would put money in his pocket.

I hardly believe it's a "bunch". Just look at at his weak ass message board..........they are all saying "no thanks".

**BetterBizness** · 03-10-11, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by ManBearPig

I think they are way over priced for what you get. $150/wk for all the plays? Really?!? PCG and the Judge are way cheaper than that and they're proven to be winners and still are, plus they provide information you can't get anywhere else.

You have to wonder if they're overvaluing their plays and didn't do themselves any favors by pricing out many people. I don't have to have an MBA to know that you have to ease into these things and from what I've seen and read this was a surprise to everyone although he claims differently. Each to their own though and they are free to do whatever they want, but I just don't see the value in paying for their picks when there are plenty around here for free.

100% agree... Even $10 betters don't mind paying $5-$10 a week... but $15/$30 a DAY???

Why on earth would you alienate 99% of the people who aren't big time players?

**darkstar77** · 03-10-11, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by thorn

Yeah nice call. Just as you predicted he's now claiming that it wasn't his decision to go tout and his mystery (read: imaginary) pay clients made him do it. One day he's saying he is still tweaking his system, the next he says he's been doing this for 4 years. I feel a bit sorry for the suckers that are paying him for picks that will hit around 50% long term but they will learn a costly but ultimately valuable lesson so maybe it's for the best.

Ya he's full of shite. A month ago this thing was a "new" system still in the testing mode yet he's been getting paid for picks for four years? His NCAA is average at best in the long run and his NBA is beyond awful.

**William Walters** · 03-10-11, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by thorn

Yeah nice call. Just as you predicted he's now claiming that it wasn't his decision to go tout and his mystery (read: imaginary) pay clients made him do it. One day he's saying he is still tweaking his system, the next he says he's been doing this for 4 years. I feel a bit sorry for the suckers that are paying him for picks that will hit around 50% long term but they will learn a costly but ultimately valuable lesson so maybe it's for the best.

No shit. If he's been at it for four years...............he should be able to provide company names and websites for these established "investment" ("not gambling") company's.

**BetterBizness** · 03-10-11, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by soxwin

Going pay for play 4 days before the tourney isn't going to help him @ all for this year. He may get a couple of sales based on some who he made money for here, but overall that is nothing. These forums aren't where you make your money as a paid capper. You make it from marketing, marketing and marketing. 4 days before the tourney isn't nearly enough time to take advantage of this NCAA tourney.

BB you keep mentioning that you can't believe he is charging after such a short time here. I say he waited 2 weeks too long to do it. If he had 2 weeks of time of marketing under him he would have made a lot more than he will right now.

Believe it or not there are thousands of cappers out there who don't even know forums like this exist, never mind ever made a post on one.

This entire Biz Plan is terrible... How can you come in half way through a season, light it up.. go cold.. then ask for money? Optimal time to make money was literally in the middle of the hot streak a month ago... but at WORST 2 weeks ago... You forgot to mention, that the other side of marketing, marketing, marketing, is Refferals, referrals, referrals... I've already mentioned therber2 at least 3x in this thread... Because I'm a happy customer paying for a service with a proven track record... note key word PROVEN... LGO is not proven at all to me... I think he was forced into this by a bad groupthink decision myself... alas... I'm a man of my word... 65% and I'm the first guy to sign up monday...

I'll still say that I'm the first on who will pay him for a week of his picks if he hits 65% over the Full Card of the weekend... although from what I'm hearing, we're off to a poor start...

**darkstar77** · 03-10-11, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by ManBearPig

Won't matter since they'll probably get deleted soon anyways...if the whole thread doesn't get relocated.

Ooops, maybe I should have posted them in the "Service Play" section.

**huesbch** · 03-10-11, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

100% agree... Even $10 betters don't mind paying $5-$10 a week... but $15/$30 a DAY???

Why on earth would you alienate 99% of the people who aren't big time players?

Why???? because a Maserati dealership can't make money in the ghetto.

**William Walters** · 03-10-11, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by huesbch

Why???? because a Maserati dealership can't make money in the ghetto.

Says another one of his "ghosts".

**BetterBizness** · 03-10-11, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by huesbch

Why???? because a Maserati dealership can't make money in the ghetto.

well for one...you have to make sure your a Maserati first... You're not the pinnacle of automobiles because you tell me you are...

and really? that's why Ferrari is owned by Fiat right? If you knew what a cinquecento was you would see you're sadly mistaken...

**William Walters** · 03-10-11, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by huesbch

Why???? because a Maserati dealership can't make money in the ghetto.

Love how half your posts are blowing LGO in his threads! Ghosts rule!!!!

**William Walters** · 03-10-11, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

well for one...you have to make sure your a Maserati first... You're not the pinnacle of automobiles because you tell me you are...

and really? that's why Ferrari is owned by Fiat right?

Maybe you need to go back to marketing 101...

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-10-11, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by The Seer

His system hasn't been under the gun long enough. Anyone who pays $75 to get his plays for a week is nuts.

The system could have a bad tourney and you'd be out a good bit. I've never had a losing season of football since being here on SBR and have never even considered going tout. The money I make on my plays is enough for me. I'm here to help and get help. Most of the people following were probably small time bettors anyway so $75 makes no sense to me but whatever.

agreed, ive done good with college hoops got 3 threads to prove it, same with footballl

im just happy people chip in options, not gonna take peoples money for something i do anyway

your up

$$$45,000, well i hope your paying taxes on that since your so great, even though there is no chance your up that much... i tailed you play for play

one day you have 45 plays another 20...

what the **** kind of system is that

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-10-11, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by huesbch

Why???? because a Maserati dealership can't make money in the ghetto.

a) your not a maserati

and

b) your right you cant sell a maserti in the ghetto,

**BigDofBA** · 03-10-11, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by darkstar77

Ya he's full of shite. A month ago this thing was a "new" system still in the testing mode yet he's been getting paid for picks for four years? His NCAA is average at best in the long run and his NBA is beyond awful.

Pretty much what I said and got flamed for.

His system was in a testing phase last week and now people are paying to go 2-6. Lmao. Don't be a sucker off someone trying to make a quick buck.

**GGZOLA** · 03-10-11, 06:36 PM

et tu, VV?
I never fully vested trust in lgo based on issues with this site.
But VV I really thought was down to earth, more accessible and straightforward.
Amazing how nothing good lasts, not forever, but just even a little bit.

**dlightner** · 03-10-11, 06:37 PM

If anyone pays for these guys plays your a Loser

**darkstar77** · 03-10-11, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Pretty much what I said and got flamed for.

His system was in a testing phase last week and now people are paying to go 2-6. Lmao. Don't be a sucker off someone trying to make a quick buck.

Hell the two wins so far were free on Twitter. Pay plays are 0-6.

**GGZOLA** · 03-10-11, 06:38 PM

bottom line...anyone who charges for picks....isnt trusting their picks to make money and have to depend on revenue to buy insurance against them, plain and simple. Show me one tout that makes documented consistent profit Ill show u the 2nd coming.

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-10-11, 06:39 PM

if anyone is interested you guys should check out my 299 thread in ncaa

post all my plays, with dollar amounts, so the average little bettor could do this also

done it 3 times started with low amounts and made something out of nothing

**GGZOLA** · 03-10-11, 06:40 PM

we should gather 150 forum members, each pay a dollar, then document their arses for fun!!! Can I get 149 more volunteers?

**BonziWells** · 03-10-11, 06:41 PM

he should just change his name from Lets Go Out, to Lets Go Tout!

pass on paying for picks but i enjoyed the ride.

**Joe Dogs** · 03-10-11, 06:52 PM

Just went and checked LGOs prices on his new site....Looks like there going right for the jugular.

A respected capper from the rx went tout.

Started his own site....Charges $20.00 to $30.00 a sport...Not a month.

I guess he does it for the love of capping,not money.

**thorn** · 03-10-11, 06:59 PM

Just keeps getting better. Check his tweets from March 4th. He claimed that his group/investors/whatever were betting six figures per day at the LV Hilton and up to 50k on a single game. Now he says he needs subscription to "keep everything turned on over here." You really can't make this stuff up.

**huesbch** · 03-10-11, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by William Walters

Says another one of his "ghosts".

hahahahaha...you truly are one paranoid individual. Possibly you should consider opening the first GhostBusting Tout Service.......in the ghetto of course.

**BetterBizness** · 03-10-11, 07:06 PM

Originally posted by GGZOLA

bottom line...anyone who charges for picks....isnt trusting their picks to make money and have to depend on revenue to buy insurance against them, plain and simple. Show me one tout that makes documented consistent profit Ill show u the 2nd coming.

I have every email from therber2 for the entire NBA season showing he is ahead by miles... I have my NCAAF bets that I used throughout every week this year and made money with all documented on SBR... I do not have documented proof of his MLB, but apparently it is also here on SBR...

Your turn...

**Heandog** · 03-10-11, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by GGZOLA

bottom line...anyone who charges for picks....isnt trusting their picks to make money and have to depend on revenue to buy insurance against them, plain and simple. Show me one tout that makes documented consistent profit Ill show u the 2nd coming.

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awsome YOU NAILED IT

and heres a couple of points too

**sbearc820** · 03-10-11, 07:11 PM

He added a late game.. does anyone have it?