Again, I seriously don't know how you bet an O/U in college

[No coincidences]

I have UTEP/UCF under 129.5.

With 4:47 left, there had been a total of 101 points scored.

There have been 24 points in the last 2:46.

[No coincidences]

I honestly don't think I've cashed a total in college basketball ever.

[Romanov]

Sorry man. Thats brutal

[No coincidences]

From 2:59 to 2:01, there were 13 points scored. In 58 seconds. Is that even possible?

[BigDofBA]

I can't hit them either. I had the under in the UCLA/Cal game last night for the second half. I was up 4 points when UCLA hit a three with one second left to send the game into overtime!

I lost. No matter what I lose betting totals.

[No coincidences]

I keep hearing how much easier it is to cap a total than a side from some posters.

How do you cap 37 points (and counting) in the last 4:42?

[pacocn]

no coin i tailed u with a tease to 137.5
this one hurt

[No coincidences]

Final tally:

41 points in the last 4:47.

Un-fvcking-believable.

[biff]

had under ucla as well. i have learned to bet the over or no play.

[BigDofBA]

had under ucla as well. i have learned to bet the over or no play.

I've seriously had 25 point cushions in the final minutes and then one team will veep fouling when they are down Like 13. Usually they hit a meaningless three with like 6 seconds left to beat me.

[biff]

I've seriously had 25 point cushions in the final minutes and then one team will veep fouling when they are down Like 13. Usually they hit a meaningless three with like 6 seconds left to beat me.

yeah, that seems to be the norm. ucla i had under 142.2 for game so you can guess my reaction. i do not even know how they scored that many points in OT.

as you know bad beats happen more often then not. if you and i listed all of the bad beats we have had just for a week we would clog up this forum. i have learned to just let it go and cry...

[KJ90]

college kids are fuked man...they foul down 12 with 1 min left n shyt

[Regul8er]

I keep hearing how much easier it is to cap a total than a side from some posters.

How do you cap 37 points (and counting) in the last 4:42?

Not to sound rude.....but the best way to cap, is not to cap at all and pass. If you never hit totals, why are you still messing with them? You seem to have a good handle with sides, why give away profits on something your not good at or not comfortable with??

[HoulihansTX]

For the most part its a crapshoot, but the main ingredient is a teams pace.

Which team scores more?

Team A: 50/100 50%FG
Team B 35/70 50%FG

Obviously its team A, without taking into account FT's. The faster you play, the more shots you put up. Thus fast paced teams have more possessions in a game, and are able to score more points...Use Kenpoms pace ratings as a guide.

[head_strong]

Don't play many totals, but I would imagine AM tips usually draw big numbers on the under, most use reasoning of players may be tired, smaller crowds, avg points scored in previous games, etc, imo has already been taken into account when the # is posted...nevertheless tough break on the game, that was a lot of points in the last few minutes.

[ThingsFallApart]

I find the best way to do it is use the spread to imagine the final score. I had the under on the Duke game yesterday I think it was 147. You have to think how many points will the underdog score. I said 60-65 is reasonable. That means they have to max on points and duke has to score 82-87 points for this to go over.
I just couldnt imagine GTech scoring 65 and duke putting up 83 so I took it and it hit.

Inversely do the same for an over.
I've found going off your gut, reason it out and if you can picture it one way take it, if not then just stay away from a total. Also take into account the pace meter and how a team does home/road and versus good and bad offensive/defensive teams. I have had some decent success on the over unders hitting id say 66-75% of them but that is only from taking anywhere from a few to a dozen in a week. Its not something you can cap with tremendous certainty.

I also capped unders in NBA and was well within my way to a win until they went to overtime on back to back nights

[lyon804]

coiner, I know where you are buddie. been there. When you get into a funk your wager actually seems to change the outcome of a game. I laughed at myself a few months ago thinking I was a game changer by just placing a bet because of the weird ways I was losing. It happens just move on.

[Blazermaniac]

Pace doesn't matter. You need inside info to the game plan. That's what broadcasters has...Vegas has. Coach can show it down...speed it up with just one single. If the game is suppose to be under....watch all the bricks in a 3 to 4 minute drough within the 7 or 8 minute mark. Players ain't dumb. Rather cap the game.

[No coincidences]

Thanks fellas. I know we've all been there. I don't play CBB totals at all anymore, but really liked this one. At 101 with 4:47 left, I'm thinking, "28 points in the final 4:47? I'm set. No way that happens."



Just to put that into perspective, 28 points every 5 minutes is 224 over the course of an entire game. They scored 41 -- that's a 328-point pace.



I know it's different because there's fouling and free throws near the end, but come on.

[lyon804]

Thanks fellas. I know we've all been there. I don't play CBB totals at all anymore, but really liked this one. At 101 with 4:47 left, I'm thinking, "28 points in the final 4:47? I'm set. No way that happens."



Just to put that into perspective, 28 points every 5 minutes is 224 over the course of an entire game. They scored 41 -- that's a 328-point pace.



I know it's different because there's fouling and free throws near the end, but come on.

Yes, I agree with you. When you are running bad this happens. On the other side some guys feel lucky. Yesterday I took the OV Penn St/Wisconsin. 1H they got 51 pts and I was thinking it was a loser most likely and then they geet 90 pts in 2H and I win. But at the same time the last 4 OT games the sides I have all lost. Many times it seems that the team that is losing ties it to force OT usually wins OT. That makes since because they have the momentum but not so with me I lose those.

[TryingMyBest]

Pace doesn't matter. You need inside info to the game plan. That's what broadcasters has...Vegas has. Coach can show it down...speed it up with just one single. If the game is suppose to be under....watch all the bricks in a 3 to 4 minute drough within the 7 or 8 minute mark. Players ain't dumb. Rather cap the game.

Yeah sure pace does matter at all.

Here are the things to consider when capping CBB totals

1. PACE
2. Who the home team is. Home teams tend to control pace
-Especially when:
-A Slow paced team is a short dog at home
-A fast paced team is a mid to large favorite
3. Rebounds
-Good rebounding teams tend to create higher scores when on the road
4. Free throw shooting
-Especially in close games when free throws may push a total over

[EaglesPhan36]

24 in 2:46 is nothing. I bet a 2nd half under the other night and they scored 19 in the last 60 seconds. Almost any college game that has 25 points or less to go with anywhere from 4-5 minutes has a solid shot to cash an over if the foul situation is in the bonus for both.

[agharah1]

Well, UCF and UTEP are two uptempo teams. UCF has been layups-only as of late, so I'm assuming that this was the game they finally started making actual jump shots. That, and there were probably a lot of free throws.

[Quake]

Tough beat wow

[LLXC]

I have been targeting 2nd half totals more than 1st half - to get a feel of the tempo and how the refs are calling the game.

But you will get these types of swings, especially in college basketball totals.

[infinite wisdom]

sorry but your example cant compare to these beauties from earlier this year:
for full details you can look up the play by play on espn.com

1/21/11
Wofford -14 @ Georgia Southern
2H under 81

on 59 (22 pts to spare) 1:06 remaining Wofford up 12 and the ball.
a conventional ending has each team maybe with two possessions each and perhaps 4 pts.
instead thanks to two consec wofford tunrovers, and wofford fouling a 3 pt shooter,
24 points scored final :58, lose by 2.

Georgia Southern again.
really ridiculous shiet resulting in a blown nut under.

check out how stange this is..
Davidson WITH A LEAD of 7 to 9 points FOULS GASO FOUR TIMES in the final :46
resulting in 8-8 GASO free throws.. reinterate WITH THE LEAD they r fouling 4x.

1/31/11
Davidson -10 @ Goergia Southern
2H under 76

on 60 (16 pts to spare) Davidson up 8 and the ball
19 points scored final :46, lose by 3
only one made basket
DAV 9-10 FT
GASO 8-8 FT and 1-3 FG
thats 17-18 FT by college kids.

even after 11 pts are scored in :30 i still have 5 pts to spare
and GASO is down 7 with :16.
8 more points are scored in the final :16 of a 7 pt gm.

GASO fouls down 7 with :16. why?
DAV 2-2 FT make it a 9 pt gm,
2 seconds later DAV, up 9, fouls GASO with :13. 2-2 FT.
DAV turnsover inbounds pass and fouls them again with :12. 2-2 FT.
down 5 with :10 GASO fouls DAV. 2-2 FT.
EIGHT pts in FIVE seconds of clock time.

[Counterfeit Cash]

sorry but your example cant compare to these beauties from earlier this year:
for full details you can look up the play by play on espn.com

1/21/11
Wofford -14 @ Georgia Southern
2H under 81

on 59 (22 pts to spare) 1:06 remaining Wofford up 12 and the ball.
a conventional ending has each team maybe with two possessions each and perhaps 4 pts.
instead thanks to two consec wofford tunrovers, and wofford fouling a 3 pt shooter,
24 points scored final :58, lose by 2.

Georgia Southern again.
really ridiculous shiet resulting in a blown nut under.

check out how stange this is..
Davidson WITH A LEAD of 7 to 9 points FOULS GASO FOUR TIMES in the final :46
resulting in 8-8 GASO free throws.. reinterate WITH THE LEAD they r fouling 4x.

1/31/11
Davidson -10 @ Goergia Southern
2H under 76

on 60 (16 pts to spare) Davidson up 8 and the ball
19 points scored final :46, lose by 3
only one made basket
DAV 9-10 FT
GASO 8-8 FT and 1-3 FG
thats 17-18 FT by college kids.

even after 11 pts are scored in :30 i still have 5 pts to spare
and GASO is down 7 with :16.
8 more points are scored in the final :16 of a 7 pt gm.

GASO fouls down 7 with :16. why?
DAV 2-2 FT make it a 9 pt gm,
2 seconds later DAV, up 9, fouls GASO with :13. 2-2 FT.
DAV turnsover inbounds pass and fouls them again with :12. 2-2 FT.
down 5 with :10 GASO fouls DAV. 2-2 FT.
EIGHT pts in FIVE seconds of clock time.

that's terrible, bro...happens to me all the time...really sucks. I', leaving the under's alone from now on when it comes to CBB, I just can't call em'

[No coincidences]

sorry but your example cant compare to these beauties from earlier this year:
for full details you can look up the play by play on espn.com

1/21/11
Wofford -14 @ Georgia Southern
2H under 81

on 59 (22 pts to spare) 1:06 remaining Wofford up 12 and the ball.
a conventional ending has each team maybe with two possessions each and perhaps 4 pts.
instead thanks to two consec wofford tunrovers, and wofford fouling a 3 pt shooter,
24 points scored final :58, lose by 2.

Georgia Southern again.
really ridiculous shiet resulting in a blown nut under.

check out how stange this is..
Davidson WITH A LEAD of 7 to 9 points FOULS GASO FOUR TIMES in the final :46
resulting in 8-8 GASO free throws.. reinterate WITH THE LEAD they r fouling 4x.

1/31/11
Davidson -10 @ Goergia Southern
2H under 76

on 60 (16 pts to spare) Davidson up 8 and the ball
19 points scored final :46, lose by 3
only one made basket
DAV 9-10 FT
GASO 8-8 FT and 1-3 FG
thats 17-18 FT by college kids.

even after 11 pts are scored in :30 i still have 5 pts to spare
and GASO is down 7 with :16.
8 more points are scored in the final :16 of a 7 pt gm.

GASO fouls down 7 with :16. why?
DAV 2-2 FT make it a 9 pt gm,
2 seconds later DAV, up 9, fouls GASO with :13. 2-2 FT.
DAV turnsover inbounds pass and fouls them again with :12. 2-2 FT.
down 5 with :10 GASO fouls DAV. 2-2 FT.
EIGHT pts in FIVE seconds of clock time.

Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[TwoWays]

NoCoin., you hit it on under Duke/G.T. last night. Oh ya, you decided to take that game off. Suck it up. You and I will hit a total tomorrow and end your hex.

[TwoWays]

Better yet, NoCoin...we will hit the total on that Tennessee/Vanderbilt game and end both your jinxes.

[freeze]

if u take the under u always pray for it not to be a close game cuz that's all they do is foul most of the time neways its not a basketball game no more its a freethrow contest

[firehoyt]

Hey infinite wisdom, 17 posts and 1504 in points?! U must be doin something right!!

I lost three 2H plays last week by the hook. Damn 2H totals and not being able to buy the hook.

I'm gonna stop playing half totals when there's a hook involved.