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  • Ralphie1412
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-29-08
    • 13963

    #526
    Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
    Maybe not over rated, but maybe over valued as a favorite by bookies. The line tonight seems pretty hard to like, but it depends which GW shows up. The one that beat Oregon State and St.Joe's on the road of the one that lost to UAB by 35 on the road? Also have to consider Richmond beat Purdue this season, but also just got dropped by Rhode Island at home.
    Aaaaaand this is the type of shit that keeps me up at night. I love college sports but they are still kids and you never know which team will show up unless its the top 5 teams. Appalachian St. lost to Eastern Tennessee and Texas San Marcos and then ROLLED Davidson on the road. uhhh what?
    "This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
    Goat Milk
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    • EaglesPhan36
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 71662

      #527
      Think the Reverse Plays experiment will officially retire now. These seem hit or miss and nothing extraordinary.
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      • HoulihansTX
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-12-09
        • 30566

        #528
        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
        Richmond has not5 faired well, when posted. Maybe overrated. I like Duquense// and Ohio.
        We will from this point on, ignore all Richmond plays. They are vastly overrated.
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        • EaglesPhan36
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-06-06
          • 71662

          #529
          Ball State conversely I think is unbeaten when they fall on the list. Some rough days lately. Said we'd need to watch once conference play began to see if this formula would hold up. Going to track specifically the record over the next 10 days which will be listed underneath the season total. If the downward trend continues, could be time to bail on this criteria and use this information for next year as in playing this formula UNTIL conference play begins. We shall see.

          Regular KenPom Plays: 138-128-8 [+3.30 units]

          1.20.11

          Wright State -7.5 [KP -10]
          New Mexico State +2 [KP -1]
          UNC-Greensboro -7.5 [KP -11]
          Rider -17.5 [KP -21]
          Northern Arizona -7.5 [KP -10]
          Northern Colorado -10 [KP -14]


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          • HoulihansTX
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            • 02-12-09
            • 30566

            #530
            Rider definately
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            • zephyr
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-19-10
              • 516

              #531
              I'd be careful with the New Mexico State play. Young Nevada team seems to be getting it together a little bit in conference play. At home tonight, returning to Reno to cheers and with some confidence after a good win at Boise State, I'm thinking this could be a good spot for the Wolf Pack, against a New Mexico State team that has been only so-so on the road.
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              • xelance
                SBR MVP
                • 11-25-10
                • 1750

                #532
                im on the wright state pick for sure. It is now at -7
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                • Jive
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-10-10
                  • 1405

                  #533
                  Good luck tonight everyone.
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #534
                    1.21.11

                    Iona -15 [KP -19]

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                    • EaglesPhan36
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 12-06-06
                      • 71662

                      #535
                      Regular KenPom Plays: 139-133-8 [-0.95 units]
                      10 Day Tracker: 1-5

                      I think this weekend is going to tell whether this experiment needs to be shut down or not. If this winds up under .500 this weekend, I am going to stop with these plays as conference play will have apparently have negated the edge we saw with this formula in non-conference play.

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                      • lilchal215
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 10-16-10
                        • 126

                        #536
                        well find outt
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                        • EaglesPhan36
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 71662

                          #537
                          It's probably safe to say this formula should not be used when conference play starts. Just looked. In the past two weeks from Jan.7-Jan.21: 33-45-1.
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                          • HoulihansTX
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                            • 02-12-09
                            • 30566

                            #538
                            tough sledding for sure
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                            • EaglesPhan36
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 71662

                              #539
                              Regular KenPom Plays: 139-134-8 [-2.00 units]
                              10 Day Tracker: 1-6

                              This is pretty much a do or die day for this formula. .500 or under and I think this officially closes the Pomeroy Plays as the conference season has killed this edge.

                              1.22.11

                              George Mason +1 [KP -4]
                              Connecticut -6.5 [KP -9]
                              Duquesne -15 [KP -18]
                              Yale -6.5 [KP -9]
                              Drexel -9 [KP -13]
                              Buffalo +2 [KP -1]
                              Air Force -6.5 [KP -9]
                              Loyola Chicago -10 [KP -13]
                              Pittsburgh -16.5 [KP -20]
                              Georgia -10 [KP -14]
                              Washington -18.5 [KP -24]
                              Louisville -5 [KP -9]
                              Alabama -10.5 [KP -13]
                              Kentucky -7.5 [KP -10]
                              Ball State -10 [KP -13]
                              St.Joseph's +2 [KP -2]
                              UTEP -5 [KP -8]
                              Nevada -9.5 [KP -12]
                              Charleston -13.5 [KP -17]
                              Furman -11.5 [KP -14]
                              Elon -14 [KP -18]
                              Austin Peay -14.5 [KP -17]


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                              • BrewMaster
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-03-10
                                • 555

                                #540
                                Thanks bro I still have faith in it!
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                                • EaglesPhan36
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 71662

                                  #541
                                  12-8-2 and three losses were by half points. I'm gonna rest on Sunday.
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                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 71662

                                    #542
                                    Regular KenPom Plays: 151-142-10 [+1.60 units]
                                    10 Day Tracker: 13-14-1

                                    Gonna keep tracking this through the end of the month to see if Saturday was a solid day or just a brief blip back in the right direction.

                                    1.24.11

                                    VCU -10.5 [KP -13]
                                    George Mason -7 [KP -10]
                                    Ball State -2.5 [KP -6]

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                                    • HoulihansTX
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                                      • 02-12-09
                                      • 30566

                                      #543
                                      Originally posted by BrewMaster
                                      Thanks bro I still have faith in it!
                                      I'm surviving on straight will power.
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                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-06-06
                                        • 71662

                                        #544
                                        Thanks for the points by the way. Ball State has been very good in this formula. Other two I think are suspect, but I think one of them will hit.
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                                        • LLXC
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-10-06
                                          • 8972

                                          #545
                                          Somebody did mention earlier in this thread that once conference started, it went down hill?
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                                          • ricohhh
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 12-15-10
                                            • 59

                                            #546
                                            thank for these. bol.
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                                            • WIZARDOFBEANTOWN
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-18-10
                                              • 13389

                                              #547
                                              good luck tonight ep
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 71662

                                                #548
                                                Regular KenPom Plays: 152-144-10 [+0.50 units]
                                                10 Day Tracker: 14-16-1

                                                1.25.11

                                                Richmond +1 [KP -2]
                                                Kansas -7.5 [KP -11]

                                                A couple lines again not included here even though they fit into the formula now because of their movement off the opening line.
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                                                • zanman822
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 06-18-10
                                                  • 322

                                                  #549
                                                  Eagles, Not disagreeing with the plays but isnt Colorado pretty good on thier home court?
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #550
                                                    Yep. They haven't lost yet. Definitely not one I really like, but it falls into the formula.
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                                                    • AbeFroman
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 11-21-10
                                                      • 384

                                                      #551
                                                      Hey Eagles,

                                                      Been tracking along with ya for the better portion of the season, thanks for your hardwork!

                                                      However, as you've been suspecting lately, I think conference play has killed KenPom from being a successful moneymaker. I have tracked games that you have not post just out of curiosity, and it is under .500 even adding those games in.

                                                      Threw some points your way.. Thanks again!
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                                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                        • 71662

                                                        #552
                                                        Thanks for the info on your tracking Abe. I'm going to keep this going through this week and see where the record over the ten day period winds up. One thing I have noticed is that road favorites that fit into the formula seem to not cover fairly routinely now. Might be worth noting to play the underdogs in those match-ups if that trend holds.
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                                                        • Brian891
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-28-10
                                                          • 2049

                                                          #553
                                                          Lets go jayhawks!
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                                                          • yisman
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-01-08
                                                            • 75682

                                                            #554
                                                            UConn was +5 and kenpom said +2.
                                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                            [/quote]

                                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-06-06
                                                              • 71662

                                                              #555
                                                              Regular KenPom Plays: 153-145-10 [+0.45 units]
                                                              10 Day Tracker: 15-17-1

                                                              1.26.11

                                                              Villanova -6 [KP -9]
                                                              Wichita State -5.5 [KP -8]
                                                              East Carolina +2 [KP -1]
                                                              St.Joseph's +3.5 [KP +1]
                                                              Xavier -13 [KP -16]
                                                              Duquesne -14.5 [KP -19]
                                                              Texas -4.5 [KP -9]
                                                              UCF +5 [KP +2]
                                                              Iowa State -11 [KP -16]
                                                              Charleston -17 [KP -21]

                                                              I highlighted the road favorites. Going to track how many of them fail to cover because this might be a new twist to this formula that will be profitable down the stretch - to take the home dog. Kansas did not cover last night.
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                                                              • grzftbl
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 01-17-10
                                                                • 285

                                                                #556
                                                                I haven't tracked either but it seems to me "massey ratings" projections are closer to Pomeroy.

                                                                Just my opinion, could be wrong--NOT BASHING-- as I look @ both.

                                                                Enjoy and GL.
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                                                                • HoulihansTX
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 02-12-09
                                                                  • 30566

                                                                  #557
                                                                  UCF been playing like shit lately, but I like them today.
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                                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                                    • 71662

                                                                    #558
                                                                    Regular KenPom Plays: 156-151-10 [-2.95 units]
                                                                    10 Day Tracker: 18-23-1

                                                                    Looking very poor. The road favorites who fell into the formula were 3-2 last night. Just going to list the lines that fall into the formula here and follow this road favorites aspect to see if it holds true that they cover less than 50%. Otherwise, this formula should be dropped when conference play starts - for sure.
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                                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                                      • 71662

                                                                      #559
                                                                      1.27.11

                                                                      Cleveland State -10 [KP -13]
                                                                      Idaho -1 [KP -4]
                                                                      Arizona -8 [KP -11]
                                                                      UC-Irvine -6.5 [KP -10]
                                                                      San Francisco +4 [KP +1]
                                                                      St.Mary's +3 [KP -3]
                                                                      Portland State +2 [KP -1]

                                                                      St.Mary's is just outside the formula at the current line, but opened at +2.5, so I included it. Bolded teams are the road favorites.
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                                                                      • zephyr
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 09-19-10
                                                                        • 516

                                                                        #560
                                                                        RLM on that Idaho game. It's a very tempting line, but I say be careful with it.
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