NCAA PROP BET:Total # of teams from pac ten out of 1st round under 1.5 -160 safe bet?

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

this looks too good /... i know alot of juice but damn i see wash winning cal losing... what do you all think?

[iceminers26]

How can books protect themselves from the following plays:

take your Pac 10 under for 1U at -160 so risk 160 to win 100

then parlay the 2 Pac 10 MLs, Wash +110 and Cal -110 for 1U, so 1U to win around say 280

its basically a free shot at winning 120 at 1u on each so if you throw 1k on each, its a free shot at 1200

[2daBank]

its 1.5 ice so if they split you lose both

[2daBank]

-160 that both pac-10 teams dont win,pretty low....wow sounds like someone thinks pac-10 got a shot (besides me)

[ji03]

I would say that is quite safe as I see both Washington and Cal losing.

[iceminers26]

its 1.5 ice so if they split you lose both

Pac 10 teams out of the 1st round, doesn't "out" mean eliminated so you take the prop under for 1600 to win 1000 and play the 2 pac 10 money lines for 1000 to win 2800. There is no possible way this could lose money, you could only break even or win 1200 profit.

Or does "out" mean advancing to 2nd round?

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

yeah but with my bet one loses i win and i dont see 2 pac ten teams going into 2nd round ... i played it well see small play

[iceminers26]

**** I'm losing my mind trying to figure out what the heck I'm missing here, maybe I need to go to bed.

[2daBank]

Pac 10 teams out of the 1st round, doesn't "out" mean eliminated so you take the prop under for 1600 to win 1000 and play the 2 pac 10 money lines for 1000 to win 2800. There is no possible way this could lose money, you could only break even or win 1200 profit.

Or does "out" mean advancing to 2nd round?

i took it to mean that under 1.5 means as long as both dont advance you win, but im pretty high

[antifoil]

anyone taking into account the way asu and oregon state both lost

[iceminers26]

i took it to mean that under 1.5 means as long as both dont advance you win, but im pretty high

I wondered were you've been all night, good stuff bud

[tylerguy02]

anyone taking into account the way asu and oregon state both lost

No, because they are in the other tourneys which they could probably care less about.

[2daBank]

anyone taking into account the way asu and oregon state both lost

not really....unless you wanna take into account how SH and st johns both lost

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

yep me too but yough right bank all i ned is one to lose i feel preatty confident on was winning cal will look stupid against louisville they bring what they bring against syracuse at syracuse they mop it up quick...bank looking forward to winning wi ya tomorrow... i have been building both bet phoenix and bet horizon up so lets get some more

[2daBank]

I wondered were you've been all night, good stuff bud

i been around, just played the Johnies and decided to wait till 2marro...im fukkin ready now though, if i only had some percs or vicks to help me enjoy the action

[edoggdriveby]

How can books protect themselves from the following plays:

take your Pac 10 under for 1U at -160 so risk 160 to win 100

then parlay the 2 Pac 10 MLs, Wash +110 and Cal -110 for 1U, so 1U to win around say 280

its basically a free shot at winning 120 at 1u on each so if you throw 1k on each, its a free shot at 1200

Problem is that if one PAC-10 team gets to the Sweet 16 and the other one loses first round, you lost the under and the ML parlay.


Edited: misread what the prop bet was

[tbill11]

This is the most horribly worded prop I've ever seen...

[2daBank]

yep me too but yough right bank all i ned is one to lose i feel preatty confident on was winning cal will look stupid against louisville they bring what they bring against syracuse at syracuse they mop it up quick...bank looking forward to winning wi ya tomorrow... i have been building both bet phoenix and bet horizon up so lets get some more

sweet, i put bethorizen up to 250 and put it all on Richmond....got bored one night and lost all my money in Phoenix playing cards, i didnt like there site anyway or that $250 cap BS

[2daBank]

This is the most horribly worded prop I've ever seen...

yes im very confused and pretty sure its not the weed as i function rather well high

is it 1.5 wins total? or both teams to get out of 1st round? wtf is it?

[iceminers26]

Problem is that if one PAC-10 team gets to the Sweet 16 and the other one loses first round, you lost the under and the ML parlay. Although you probably would be able to hedge that in the second round to break even as long it game you could take the remaining Pac-10 team on ML +160 (Bookmaker has u1.5 at -140, so all it would have to be second round is +140. With Cal possibly taking on Duke and Washington going as a 11 vs. 3 seed against New Mexico, +140 could easily happen in both cases i think) I think I am going to try this out just for the hell of it

No the bet is number of Pac 10 teams out of the first round, not total wins, so it would not matter if they went on to win the entire tourney.

[iceminers26]

This is the most horribly worded prop I've ever seen...

Top post in this thread, thank you, I am lost as well

[edoggdriveby]

No the bet is number of Pac 10 teams out of the first round, not total wins, so it would not matter if they went on to win the entire tourney.

oops yea, I re-read your post. Nevermind my post...i realized right after that my scenario does not work anyways.....i need to just go to sleep.

[tbonmusikman]

....both teams lose first round....lose both bets?

[LT Profits]

its 1.5 ice so if they split you lose both

HUH? No, Under 1.5 teams would be a winner.

[LT Profits]

yes im very confused and pretty sure its not the weed as i function rather well high

is it 1.5 wins total? or both teams to get out of 1st round? wtf is it?

Under 1.5 teams to advance, so a split is a win

[LT Profits]

....both teams lose first round....lose both bets?

No, the Under 1.5 would win because 0 teams got out of first round.

Frankly. I don't see the confusion, seems clearly worded enough to me. Perhaps a minor modification would be "to get out" instead of "out".

[uva3021]

Bookmaker has o/u 1.5 for tourney, so if one advances to sweet 16 both the parlay and prop bet loses

[robmpink]

i like wash to win the first round game.

[uva3021]

sportsbetting has the number listed for the entire tourney too

[rm18]

line is a copycat mistake

[StraitShooter]

No, because they are in the other tourneys which they could probably care less about.

imo most over rated theory out there

O they dont care..or Oh they wont show up..or Oh its just NIT so they wont try

Fuk dat..teams are in the subtourneys because they deserve to be there..and when they lose its just cause they suck..not whether they wanted to be there or cared

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Ok so I failed English but aced math here is the actual copy of my bet today:

Total Games won by Pac 10 Teams/Total Games won by Pac 10 Teams ( U +1½ -160) (FG)

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

I see maybe wash winning today great chance they both lose today but neither one will advance past this first round.... and i dont see both winning today just my opinion... only played very small .