My Tourney Upsets: BYU in Final Four, Utah St in Sweet 16

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  • DuncHen22
    SBR MVP
    • 11-20-09
    • 1079

    #1
    My Tourney Upsets: BYU in Final Four, Utah St in Sweet 16
    BYU should be a 3 seed.
    -Lost 4 games all year, two of which were to #3 seed New Mexico.
    -Ranked 7th in the Pomeroy Rankings
    -10th most efficient offense
    -21st most efficient defense.
    -2nd when it comes to preventing offensive rebound percentage,
    -9th in turnover percentage,
    -3rd in 3 pointers.
    -free throw shooting: First in the nation at 78.6%.
    -Kansas State is beatable, as shown by Iowa State on the road beating them, as well as a Mississippi loss early on.
    -Interesting matchup will be under the glass on K-State's side. While BYU is 2nd in preventing offensive rebounds, K-State is 5th in offensive rebound percentage.
    -BYU's 3-point shooting is a big advantage against Syracuse's zone defense.


    Utah State is my Cinderella/Sleeper team who will make it into the Sweet Sixteen.
    -Ken Pomeroy has them at 21st.
    -Capped the year off with 15 straight wins,
    -A good track record for tournament appearances under coach Stew Morrill,
    -He's taken them to the Big Dance 6 times and the NIT 4 times in the span of 10 seasons (The only time Morrill has not gone to a post-season tourney was his first year).
    - They have only won 1 game in the NCAA tournament (as a 12 seed in 2001 against Ohio State), but gave 2-seed Kansas quite the scare in 2003 when they lost by 3 points as a 15 seed.
    -Last year as an 11 seed, they lost by a mere point to 5-seed Marquette.

    These guys come to play.

    Also, Kentucky loses to Wisco because Calipari doesn't want a good tournament run this year.

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  • Brock Landers
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 06-30-08
    • 45359

    #2
    i'd give you 1000to 1 odds that BYU does not make the Final 4

    Utah st loses in the 1st round to Texas A & M too...
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      BYU is one of the few favorites I like in the first round, but I don't think they will beat Kansas State. Don't read too much into the Iowa State loss, it came in a letdown spot after they played Kansas two days earlier.

      I do have Utah State beating Texas A&M, but I then have them losing to a different Cinderella in the second round (Siena).

      San Diego State is the Mountain West team I have in the Sweet 16.
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      • DuncHen22
        SBR MVP
        • 11-20-09
        • 1079

        #4
        Originally posted by Brock Landers
        i'd give you 1000to 1 odds that BYU does not make the Final 4 Utah st loses in the 1st round to Texas A & M too...
        If you got 1000 points I'll bet a point with you.
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        • Brock Landers
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 06-30-08
          • 45359

          #5
          Originally posted by DuncHen22
          If you got 1000 points I'll bet a point with you.
          you want to put 100 points down that neither of the things you predicted will happen?
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          • DuncHen22
            SBR MVP
            • 11-20-09
            • 1079

            #6
            Originally posted by Brock Landers
            you want to put 100 points down that neither of the things you predicted will happen?
            You gotta give me better odds than 2:1 cuz I know their both long shots. That's why they're called upsets.
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            • tbill11
              SBR MVP
              • 03-15-09
              • 1451

              #7
              Disagree with the assessment of Utah State (this isn't the year they would have done it, just a lot of hype because they should have last year), but BYU is solid. Not final 4 material, but I have them in my elite 8
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45359

                #8
                Originally posted by DuncHen22
                You gotta give me better odds than 2:1 cuz I know their both long shots. That's why they're called upsets.
                500 points to you, 100 to me if you are wrong.

                A play?
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                • mvp123
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-24-06
                  • 1736

                  #9
                  i want in on this byu action ....they are so over rated they CHOKE every yr in the tourny i think like 6/8 yrs they lost in first riund cuz they cant play against decent teams
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                  • seaborneq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-08-06
                    • 22556

                    #10
                    You have to be a Mormon to believe in this shit.
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                    • DuncHen22
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-20-09
                      • 1079

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                      500 points to you, 100 to me if you are wrong. A play?
                      Sure, what the hell? I just cashed out my points on a Free Play a few days ago, but if I lose I promise my first 100 points will go straight to you.
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                      • Brock Landers
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 06-30-08
                        • 45359

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DuncHen22
                        Sure, what the hell? I just cashed out my points on a Free Play a few days ago, but if I lose I promise my first 100 points will go straight to you.
                        done
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Brock Landers
                          500 points to you, 100 to me if you are wrong.

                          A play?
                          I think you gave him too much. If you assume that the BYU side is a 100% winner for you, Utah State is still less than 5/1 to reach Sweet 16. They are only +140 in first round, and they would be a similar price vs. Purdue or a small favorite over Siena.
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                          • DuncHen22
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-20-09
                            • 1079

                            #14
                            I'm sure now that I've said all this, they'll both lose first round.
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                            • tblues2005
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-30-06
                              • 9235

                              #15
                              BYU probably will win its first round game and that is it.
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                              • Brock Landers
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 06-30-08
                                • 45359

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                I'm sure now that I've said all this, they'll both lose first round.
                                i'm fairly confident they will both lose in the 1st round too
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                                • crackerjack
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-01-06
                                  • 3366

                                  #17
                                  Unfortunately, BYU chokes every year in the first round. EVERY YEAR. Freakin' disappointing. I'd give my left nut (or my right) to see them in the final four but it will never happen. They might even lose first round. Actually if they make it past first round, they might win the next two, but unlikely.
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                                  • DuncHen22
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-20-09
                                    • 1079

                                    #18
                                    Too close for my liking but at least they got the first-round curse broken.
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                      Too close for my liking but at least they got the first-round curse broken.
                                      And more amazingly covered the -5.
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                                      • whatsgood5
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 10-13-09
                                        • 15359

                                        #20
                                        I have BYU losing to K state, but I do have Utah State in the sweet sixteen, good luck man.
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                                        • doublec
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-16-09
                                          • 196

                                          #21
                                          I've got BYU in the Final Four as well. Best of luck to you!
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                                          • Regul8er
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-06-07
                                            • 10666

                                            #22
                                            I've got byu and st marys in the final four, losing to Kansas and Kentucky. Wishing I was a little more conservative now after going 14-2 after the first day
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                                            • LT Profits
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #23
                                              I have BYU losing to Kansas State tomorrow. I have Utah State losing to SIENA Sunday.
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                                              • DuncHen22
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-20-09
                                                • 1079

                                                #24
                                                Looks like BYU is my only hope. This will be their toughest game though. If they can get by K-State, they'll be playing their next games in Salt Lake.
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                                                • seaborneq
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-08-06
                                                  • 22556

                                                  #25
                                                  Try again.
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                                                  • Brock Landers
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 06-30-08
                                                    • 45359

                                                    #26
                                                    Dunchen, i'll take my 100 SBR points now..
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                                                    • robmpink
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-09-07
                                                      • 13205

                                                      #27
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                                                      • Vesuvius
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-19-08
                                                        • 3886

                                                        #28
                                                        BYU won't make it past the next round.
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                                                        • THA_DIESEL
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-23-10
                                                          • 3632

                                                          #29
                                                          Hard for a team to make the Sweet 16 when one of its starting players is in on the fix (Jared Quayle)

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                                                          • Brock Landers
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 06-30-08
                                                            • 45359

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by THA_DIESEL
                                                            Hard for a team to make the Sweet 16 when one of its starting players is in on the fix (Jared Quayle)
                                                            what did he fix? A & M was by far the better team, that guy could be accused of fixing if they didntt cover as a winner LOL
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                                                            • DuncHen22
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-20-09
                                                              • 1079

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                              Dunchen, i'll take my 100 SBR points now..
                                                              I'll give it to you when BYU loses...and I build back up to a 100
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                                                              • seaborneq
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-08-06
                                                                • 22556

                                                                #32
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                                                                • DuncHen22
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-20-09
                                                                  • 1079

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Yep, once I have 'em I'll pay up
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                                                                  • poker_dummy101
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 11-03-08
                                                                    • 6395

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DuncHen22
                                                                    Yep, once I have 'em I'll pay up
                                                                    stiff him
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                                                                    • DuncHen22
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-20-09
                                                                      • 1079

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by poker_dummy101
                                                                      stiff him
                                                                      Nope, I'm a man of my word. I told him going in I just cashed all my points out but I'd pay up once I built them back. I put it in my signature to remind myself and keep myself honest.
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