Kentucky is SOFT and will not make the final 4

TPowell · 03-07-10, 05:53 PM

Who have they beat that will be in the ****ing tournament outside of Vanderbilt???? Florida is a joke and shouldn't be in. They split with Tennessee. UConn isn't in even though they played them RIGHT down to the wire. Name me 4 tourny teams that they have a winning record against this year

EaglesPhan36 · 03-07-10, 07:09 PM

I don't think they're soft, they're definitely inexperienced and somewhere down the line they may meet a team that has been to the show before that could derail them. It all comes down to draw, the only team among the so called top seeds that I think can make it through a mine field is Kansas. Kentucky I think can be beaten by a team that has some interior size and maybe throws a zone at them at opportune times, not necessarily all game - Kentucky's shooters run hot and cold. Syracuse I think is a team that can also be derailed with a zone defense, but that team has to have good size to offset Onuaku and Jackson. KU I think has the total package. You take away Collins, Aldrich and Henry can kill you. You take away Aldrich, Collins kills you. They have size, depth, experience, hunger and good defense. Only weakness is that their FT shooting can go junky now and again.

LT Profits · 03-07-10, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by jboy4

Kentucky might not win it all, but they easily make the final four. Thats money in the bank.

You want to give me +200 that they don't?

I wouldn't be surprised of they lose in the Sweet 16, but I definitely say no further than the Eilite Eight unless they have the good fortune to run into some Cinderella team. And I don't even think they are one of best eight teams in the country, the only reason they may get that far is their undeserved seeding, meaning supposedly easier matchups.

FYI, Pomeroy rates Kentucky ninth.

bnaid8 · 03-07-10, 07:53 PM

I agree. I see Kentucky as a bunch of talented individuals who have all the skill in the world but outside of Patterson are not seasoned enough/mature enough to make it all the way.

Kustac · 03-07-10, 10:05 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Who have they beat that will be in the ****ing tournament outside of Vanderbilt???? Florida is a joke and shouldn't be in. They split with Tennessee. UConn isn't in even though they played them RIGHT down to the wire. Name me 4 tourny teams that they have a winning record against this year

just read a few post and this whole thread is hilarious!!! forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't UK beat Louisville this year and isn't Louisville now a tournament team and aren't you a Louisville fan????

Ralphie1412 · 03-07-10, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

LT is my new idol! Have been saying this since early January

I have been saying this since the first week of the season. I got murdered on here for saying it. Kentucky is lucky to get out of the sweet 16.

LT Profits · 03-07-10, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Kustac

just read a few post and this whole thread is hilarious!!! forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't UK beat Louisville this year and isn't Louisville now a tournament team and aren't you a Louisville fan????

Louisville is not a great team, if they didn't sweep Syracuse they would probably be NIT bound.

TPowell · 03-07-10, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by Kustac

just read a few post and this whole thread is hilarious!!! forgive me if I'm wrong but didn't UK beat Louisville this year and isn't Louisville now a tournament team and aren't you a Louisville fan????

yeah they did beat Louisville AT HOME in a VERY sloppy game that could have went either way. Is Louisville a lock for a Final 4 then?

Kustac · 03-08-10, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

yeah they did beat Louisville AT HOME in a VERY sloppy game that could have went either way. Is Louisville a lock for a Final 4 then?

I guess I would like Louisville's chances if they could get in the region with Syracuse as their number 1 seed

(yes I know the NCAA won't do this) but they are going to have to put some of the Big East teams in the same regions

Kustac · 03-08-10, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Louisville is not a great team, if they didn't sweep Syracuse they would probably be NIT bound.

I agree completely LT, it was just funny to see a Louisville fan bashing Kentucky and then asking which tournament teams Kentucky has beaten other then Vandy, but failing to mention Kentucky beat his own team Louisville .... but I found many post in this thread funny

TPowell · 03-08-10, 10:13 AM

guy, believe it or not wins in December aren't and shouldn't be that valuable. EVERY DAMN year UL plays shitty in non conference. Louisville has beaten Syracuse (twice), Notre Dame, East Tennessee State, Western Kentucky (more than likely will be in), and UConn twice (I think they sneak in somehow). The real tale is who we've been up on late in games. We actually did BEAT WVU on the road before two shitty calls that resulted in suspensions were made. Up 4 with a minute to go at Pitt, as well as a phantom call that resulted in more ref suspensions at Seton Hall

Kustac · 03-08-10, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

guy, believe it or not wins in December aren't and shouldn't be that valuable. EVERY DAMN year UL plays shitty in non conference. Louisville has beaten Syracuse (twice), Notre Dame, East Tennessee State, Western Kentucky (more than likely will be in), and UConn twice (I think they sneak in somehow). The real tale is who we've been up on late in games. We actually did BEAT WVU on the road before two shitty calls that resulted in suspensions were made. Up 4 with a minute to go at Pitt, as well as a phantom call that resulted in more ref suspensions at Seton Hall

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! TPowell your killing me, do you do stand up comedy? In your last post (#46) when talking about who Louisville/your team has wins against you say "and UCONN twice I think they sneak in somehow". BUT 12 hours ago in POST #36 when talking about Kentucky's wins you said "UCONN ISN'T IN even though they played them right down to the wire". I'm not trying to be mean here, but honestly I would never listen to you in the future if your talking about Louisville or Kentucky as you are way off base obvouisly grossly over influenced by emotion. Not to annoy you but I have tell you Kentucky is a far better team than Louisville this year, though I would not want to match up with Louisville in the NCAA if I was a top ranked team in their region as I think Lousiville is very capable of pulling a big upset. All I'm saying (in the nicest way possible) is I think we should be objective and not let being a fan over influence us as it did in your post.

hugh4310 · 03-08-10, 12:47 PM

Kansas National Champions, end of discussion!

LT Profits · 03-08-10, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by hugh4310

Kansas National Champions, end of discussion!

Kansas is the best team in the country, but that does not necessarily mean they will win it.

I won't make any predictions until brackets are out.

GoldRush7 · 03-08-10, 04:36 PM

It would be very sad if Kentucky didn't make the final four with the amount of talent they have

Ralphie1412 · 03-08-10, 04:37 PM

I will bet anyone anything that kentucky doesnt make the final four.....step up hot shots.

LT Profits · 03-08-10, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by GoldRush7

It would be very sad if Kentucky didn't make the final four with the amount of talent they have

Need a tissue?

LT Profits · 03-08-10, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by GoldRush7

It would be very sad if Kentucky didn't make the final four with the amount of talent they have

You know I was just funnin' ya.

I would like Kentucky's chances better if they played in a quality conference, they have simply not been toughened enough to battle the big boys given their youth.

Snowball · 03-08-10, 05:05 PM

the entire field of teams is weaker this year than in recent years.
Especially in the Big East and PAC-10.
whether UK progresses to SS, EE, FF
is all about who they are lined up vs in brackets.
I think we're in agreement there are a handful of teams who can knock them out.

LT Profits · 03-08-10, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

the entire field of teams is weaker this year than in recent years.
Especially in the Big East and PAC-10.
whether UK progresses to SS, EE, FF
is all about who they are lined up vs in brackets.
I think we're in agreement there are a handful of teams who can knock them out.

Nothing wrong with Kansas, they would have been one of the favorites even in past years.

jjgold · 03-08-10, 05:24 PM

Anyone can get to the final 4, John Wall is overrated also

He is not a big time player and cannot have big games

Snowball · 03-08-10, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Nothing wrong with Kansas, they would have been one of the favorites even in past years.

Yes, Kansas has improved over last year when they broke out
I would lean them over Kentucky head to head.

PickMachine · 03-08-10, 05:40 PM

Hugh, have you ever played/coached a game of basketball in your life? I ask because i believe you're a terrible judge of talent. Kentucky is YOUNG not SOFT! They start 3 freshman i don't know what you don't get about that! Cousins is one of the best post players in the nation as a FRESHMAN! John Wall is one of the best point guards in the nation as a FRESHMAN and Bledsoe is a good compliment when he wants to be. They have showed me plenty by the comeback at Tennessee that just fell short. The comeback AT Mississippi State for the WIN down 6 with 3 to go. The win AT Vanderbilt. I honestly think Kentucky makes it the Finals game. They are always in every game and they show a ton of heart the way they win on the road. I think you're right that they don't have the killer instinct but that come with EXPERIENCE. I go out of my way to watch every Kentucky game i can because i love the brand of basketball they play! I am a Washington Huskies fan by the way! Go Dawgs!

Kustac · 03-08-10, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Nothing wrong with Kansas, they would have been one of the favorites even in past years.

just curious LT, how do you think this year's Kansas compares to last year's UNC ... personally I would say last year's UNC was a much stronger favorite but that's just my opinion

LT Profits · 03-08-10, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Kustac

just curious LT, how do you think this year's Kansas compares to last year's UNC ... personally I would say last year's UNC was a much stronger favorite but that's just my opinion

Agree, UNC last year was better than Kansas this year. BUT, I think Kansas 2010 is better than every other team last year besides UNC.

terpkeg · 03-08-10, 08:53 PM

Does anyone know the odds for the number one seeds to make the final four the past few years? I know 5dimes has had yes/no props.

nobodyukno · 03-08-10, 08:58 PM

Kansas is the most solid team and will make it to to the Finals, but after them its pretty much a cluster**** and any of the Top 15 could be there with Kansas at no surprise at all.

GoldRush7 · 03-08-10, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

You know I was just funnin' ya. I would like Kentucky's chances better if they played in a quality conference, they have simply not been toughened enough to battle the big boys given their youth.

Good point, and I was just saying from a talent stand point it would be sad. Not that I would be sad. I'm actually an IU fan so all my tissues have been used up already the past few years