Hell yeah Temple is in, they most likely gonna win a game also
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they praying to draw murry st.Originally posted by Louisvillekid1Comment -
i dont really pay too much attention to who in or out, see the 12 groups of 4s espn shows on one side or other.. i look at temple and think where is one quality road win? yea they smoked ku at home but cmon try winning/sheduling a few tough road gms cause you cant tell me the road wins they have n a conf smu got snubbed last year mean anything, but i know you prob more up to speed on who in..Originally posted by Louisvillekid1Comment -
lol that wax getting to your head...
Temple lets say a 11/12 seed vs who? Butler/GTown/SMU/Provo type?
Gimmie the Owls + the points vs any of themComment -
Go home Banker, you're drunk.
You started a rant about LSU over Murray State in response to my post saying I'd rather have Murray State over any SEC team OTHER THAN kentucky, LSU, or arky....Comment -
yep read that wrong then,rather have uga in too if you want a different rant.Originally posted by DOM_TorettoComment -
So fukking sick of Lunardi. Guy is a chump!Originally posted by LT ProfitsNot according to Lunardi.
Joe Lunardi @ESPNLunardi · 21h 21 hours ago
“@MadsenCasey: @ESPNLunardi Where would Murray State be had they lost today?” N.I.T.Comment -
They arnt that good doesn't matter if they got a bid, can't defend and wouldn't score well against a decent defense.Comment -
In Belmont's case specifically, they just lose their first game every timeOriginally posted by bballs84Comment -
He is usually spot on with who's in though, usually gets at least 63 teams right. Think he got 67 right last year, only miss was he had SMU.Originally posted by Soxsfan9Comment -
thnk fukkin god, someone that making sense.sure they could pull a upset on a handful of the overrated teams that nothing special but so what, eventually they run into a team that grinds them down and turns the gm into something they dont want. pace favors the turtles whether it pleasing to the eye of not, there a reason even traditional more up tempo teams have largely begun to slow it down, cause if you ill prepared for a dogfight you not advancing past a junk yard dog.. 3 gms all year played in the 60s and running up the score on bunch of bottom feeding no defense. that high powered o was running it up against a avg defensive ranked team of 266.. and we underselling belmonts 261st ranked d..Originally posted by jtolerComment -
Didn't they throw a scare into Texas a few years ago?Originally posted by texhooperComment -
Sorry, just checked, that was Oakland.Originally posted by LT ProfitsComment -
tex usually scared walking into the arena, at best grossly unprepared..Originally posted by LT ProfitsComment -
From SBnation...
Despite its gaudy record, Murray State would have long odds to make the NCAA Tournament as an at-large participant. In starting the season 2-4, the Racers lost to Xavier by 27 and Valparaiso by 35, and their best win all year came against Illinois State — which won't make the NCAA Tournament without upsetting both Wichita State and Northern Iowa in the Missouri Valley tournament, it would seem.Comment -
I agree that Murray deserves a bid...win 25 straight..lose by 1 on a crazy circus shot...and your out?? So a team could go 31-1 loses on some crazy shot to a team that goes 4-30 (wins all tourney games for auto bid)? Conferences should send the regular season champ to NCAA like the IVY does. This BS conference champs is all $$$Comment -
It's the way the system is set up with the conference tournaments and it's silly, but outside of the impressive conference record - their RPI is not great and their SOS is down on the bottom tier of D1.Comment -
Just eye test alone they belong.....A real shame that some shit team with a sub .500 conference record is going to get in over them
They're really dangerous and would be a fun team to have in the field
That was a great game between Belmont and Murray St btw.....March Madness type atmosphere, back and forth with huge shots, etcComment -
too bad they lost but you can't have two teams from this shit conference.Comment -
The rules state that the head of the conference can send either the conference tourney winner or the team with the best conference record to the ncaa tournament.
Granted they always send the conference tourney winner, but it could happen. It's all about $ for these small conferences, and Murray st gives them the better chance to make more $Comment -
Belmont had the home floor, and they got up early not having to play from behind like they did against Eastern Kentucky,
The Belmont players all look the same to me. Belmont does a nice job of getting to loose balls, and runs a nice offense.
They probably get like a 14 seed and head on over to Iowa St. or something. Why would they rank Murray St. at 25 then leave them out of the tournament because they lose one time on the road at the buzzer.
Well, one thing that is lame about college basketball is that teams like Kansas and Kentucky will not go on the road to a team like BYU early in the season. Too afraid to get beat and look bad.Comment -
Which would be fine if the team that won 25 straight played in a major conference or even a legit mid-major. The OVC is more like a minor and everyone knew going in that this is a one-bid conference, so Murray failed to finish the deal. It is what it is.Originally posted by MementoComment -
Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
this... its a terrible system though. as I mentioned conference tournaments are a money grab for these schools to get their games on the big networks also.
Additionally, the system wont change because of the money and/or no one will stick their neck out to say why does one game in march change you're full body of work from December to that point (conference play) in regards to your conference tournament. And also from a game/season prospective the favorites are at disadvantage because it is extremely difficult to beat a team 3 times in one year (yes, i know it is what it is)
I would say in this years example, I would like to see Murray State get in the tourney, and I think Belmont will be out in round 1, like they seem to be every yearComment -
I do agree with putting your neck out there though, but a lot of big schools dont even want to schedule home and homes (at least in football)Originally posted by 2daBank
right i love the conference tourneys also because as a fan they are very exciting and last night was a great game. And sure looking back i'm sure some kids will say with pride we won the regular season tournament, and I know coaches use it as a source of recruiting, but in reality more kids than not wont care about that and wish they had even just one game in the big dance. March Madness is one of biggest sporting events in the world, and people still talk about Valpo beating Ole Miss, or Hampton vs. Iowa state etc... so yeah hampton didnt win any more games, but thats more of an accomplishment then if they won their regular season title.
And I agree at the end of the day it wont matter because it doesnt effect the top conferences (I'd say Power 5 but b-ball has a few more conferences with potential winners) , and the small schools will just be happy to be there. And again maybe meaning less isnt the right word, but more kids would rather be a 6 seed in their conference and win the conference tournament then be a one seed and lose in it
All in all its a good discussion (haha made me sign back in to talk about it)Comment -
4 of the 5 power conferences bitch & moan about SEC bias half the year during football season, but they don't seem to care much about bias during basketball seasonComment -
put teams like Murray St in big 10 and they would be under 500Comment -
Basketball actually has six power conferences (Big East is sixth). But I don't think it is bias in hoops, if you look at any set of reliable ratings with absolutely no opinion involved, teams like Murray State do not belong. Eye test becomes irrelevant when you look impressive vs. garbage teams.Originally posted by daneblazerComment -
Murray lmao...Comment -
Why have them in the top 25? Why even have ratings & polls?Comment -
It wont change anyway cause most will say it doesnt effect the big picture..
But I'd rather see a team like Murray as one of the last 4 in ala VCU a few years back, then a 19-13 texas team or whoeverComment -
Rutgers worst team in Big 10
Line on Neutral Court
Murray St -3
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Rutgers beat Wisconsin though so if Murray State would beat them they >Wisconsin. So Murray State should be a 2 seed.Originally posted by jjgoldComment -
So you don't think the eye test should be used for a team who won 25 games in a row just because they don't play in a premier conference. But let's keep referencing games that happened in November as our concrete detail. Name 36 better at large teams than Murray State. You can't.Originally posted by CrundleComment -
murray st has no chance sorry kid PLAYED 3 top 100 teams all year, i could see them doing a lot of damage in the nit thoughComment -
This.Originally posted by KRIT
No real wins vs a tourny team. Their fault for scheduling crap out of conference and losing to that crapComment
