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  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #1
    What's up with these TCU lines?
    They started off good OOC against weak opponents but have been getting beaten pretty soundly in conference play.

    The game against Texas was a virtual PK and TEXAS blew them out.

    Now they're only +4 against KU?

    They're not even playing at their home gym since it's undergoing renovations. When they played Texas at "home" there wasn't even anyone there.

    What am I missing here? It can't be this easy.
  • Yons18
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-06-15
    • 324

    #2
    KenPom has the game 66-65 Kansas, so maybe it's just supposed to be a good matchup for TCU.
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    • Bengals28
      SBR MVP
      • 04-20-11
      • 2164

      #3
      I wouldnt say they've been getting beaten pretty soundly in conference play. 2OT losses and a 5 point road loss at K state. I agree though the line is very confusing and makes no sense..
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      • BigDofBA
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-30-09
        • 19313

        #4
        A "re-building" KU team is still much better than an improved TCU team.
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        • KRIT
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          • 01-11-14
          • 12878

          #5
          Lol TCU won like a total of like 1 conf. game since joining the big 12. Line made no sense.
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          • BigDofBA
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            • 09-30-09
            • 19313

            #6
            The books have been giving TCU credit this year but I don't see it.

            With thay said, it's only a 6 point game at the half.
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            • KRIT
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              • 01-11-14
              • 12878

              #7
              Originally posted by BigDofBA
              The books have been giving TCU credit this year but I don't see it.

              With thay said, it's only a 6 point game at the half.
              Yeah somehow they're only down 6. It feels like KU should be up double digits right now. I'd feel much better with the early line of 5.5 instead of 4.
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              • KRIT
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                • 01-11-14
                • 12878

                #8
                Here's another puzzling line. Stanford -2 on the road against Washington. Wash without two starters and I think only have one guy on the team 6'7 or taller. I was going to play Wash, but after this TCU bs im leaning towards passing.
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                • KRIT
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                  • 01-11-14
                  • 12878

                  #9
                  TCU goes from up 1 to down 9 in a matter of minutes. Nice...
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                  • Plaza23
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-29-13
                    • 7392

                    #10
                    KU looked like they were point shaving the final 2 minutes. TCU with a miracle cover and almost got the game to OT. I know Kansas sucks, but some of that stuff looked very fishy. Virtually no effort to rebound all night and you got an 83% foul shooter going 0-3.
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                    • danthaman101183
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                      • 07-24-07
                      • 386

                      #11
                      Kansas sucks? The number one team in the best conference in bball...number 1 rpi, ahead of Kentucky..you been sipping on some spiked Koop aid son? Lol


                      QUOTE=Plaza23;23490789]KU looked like they were point shaving the final 2 minutes. TCU with a miracle cover and almost got the game to OT. I know Kansas sucks, but some of that stuff looked very fishy. Virtually no effort to rebound all night and you got an 83% foul shooter going 0-3.[/QUOTE]
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                      • Plaza23
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-29-13
                        • 7392

                        #12
                        Originally posted by danthaman101183
                        Kansas sucks? The number one team in the best conference in bball...number 1 rpi, ahead of Kentucky..you been sipping on some spiked Koop aid son? Lol


                        QUOTE=Plaza23;23490789]KU looked like they were point shaving the final 2 minutes. TCU with a miracle cover and almost got the game to OT. I know Kansas sucks, but some of that stuff looked very fishy. Virtually no effort to rebound all night and you got an 83% foul shooter going 0-3.
                        [/QUOTE]

                        RPI doesnt mean anything. Look at Kenpom for actual relevant stats.

                        I've seen Kansas play stretches of awful basketball all season.

                        Oklahoma at home - blew a 20 point 2nd half lead
                        Utah at home - blew a 20 point 2nd half lead
                        Temple on the road - blown out by 24 points
                        Florida at home - down 18 points in the 1st half

                        They've had stretches all season of awful basketball. The final 2 minutes tonight was among their worst.

                        They'll do nothing in the NCAA tourney just like last year.
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                        • danthaman101183
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 07-24-07
                          • 386

                          #13
                          But they out they finish games when it matters..with the exception of the temple loss, our other two losses have been to top tier teams. Scary thing is this is a young team that is deep..sure they have their off nights, but I am pretty sure Kentucky had a few games against lowly sec teams they could have lost in overtime....Kansas may not be the best, but come on, sound educated to enough to admit they do t "suck"

                          RPI doesnt mean anything. Look at Kenpom for actual relevant stats.

                          I've seen Kansas play stretches of awful basketball all season.

                          Oklahoma at home - blew a 20 point 2nd half lead
                          Utah at home - blew a 20 point 2nd half lead
                          Temple on the road - blown out by 24 points
                          Florida at home - down 18 points in the 1st half

                          They've had stretches all season of awful basketball. The final 2 minutes tonight was among their worst.

                          They'll do nothing in the NCAA tourney just like last year.[/QUOTE]
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                          • BigDofBA
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                            • 09-30-09
                            • 19313

                            #14
                            Kansas is rebuilding.

                            This might be their least talented team in the last decade.

                            I don't think he means they "suck" literally. They're just not elite like they normally are.
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                            • danthaman101183
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 07-24-07
                              • 386

                              #15
                              sorry for the mistypes crew, typing from my phone in beautiful Lawrence Kansas




                              Originally posted by danthaman101183
                              But they out they finish games when it matters..with the exception of the temple loss, our other two losses have been to top tier teams. Scary thing is this is a young team that is deep..sure they have their off nights, but I am pretty sure Kentucky had a few games against lowly sec teams they could have lost in overtime....Kansas may not be the best, but come on, sound educated to enough to admit they do t "suck"

                              RPI doesnt mean anything. Look at Kenpom for actual relevant stats.

                              I've seen Kansas play stretches of awful basketball all season.

                              Oklahoma at home - blew a 20 point 2nd half lead
                              Utah at home - blew a 20 point 2nd half lead
                              Temple on the road - blown out by 24 points
                              Florida at home - down 18 points in the 1st half

                              They've had stretches all season of awful basketball. The final 2 minutes tonight was among their worst.

                              They'll do nothing in the NCAA tourney just like last year.
                              [/QUOTE]
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                              • danthaman101183
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 07-24-07
                                • 386

                                #16
                                They have 4 mcdonalds all Americans that will take time to gel.. Kansas will get a 2 seed in the tourney and all will be well with this group..word is outbre and cliff are coming back next year plus we have signed another mcdonalds all American...next year will be their year..they simply reload..not rebuild






                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                Kansas is rebuilding.

                                This might be their least talented team in the last decade.

                                I don't think he means they "suck" literally. They're just not elite like they normally are.
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                                • 2daBank
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-26-09
                                  • 88966

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by danthaman101183
                                  They have 4 mcdonalds all Americans that will take time to gel.. Kansas will get a 2 seed in the tourney and all will be well with this group..word is outbre and cliff are coming back next year plus we have signed another mcdonalds all American...next year will be their year..they simply reload..not rebuild
                                  Won't make it out of 1st weekend..
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                                  • danthaman101183
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 07-24-07
                                    • 386

                                    #18
                                    It could could happen yes, but I wouldn't make any sort of wager on that



                                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                                    Won't make it out of 1st weekend..
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                                    • KRIT
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                                      • 01-11-14
                                      • 12878

                                      #19
                                      Wow can't believe TCU cashed. I basically counted it as a loss.
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                                      • 2daBank
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                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by danthaman101183
                                        Kansas sucks? The number one team in the best conference in bball...number 1 rpi, ahead of Kentucky..you been sipping on some spiked Koop aid son? Lol


                                        QUOTE=Plaza23;23490789]KU looked like they were point shaving the final 2 minutes. TCU with a miracle cover and almost got the game to OT. I know Kansas sucks, but some of that stuff looked very fishy. Virtually no effort to rebound all night and you got an 83% foul shooter going 0-3.
                                        [/QUOTE]

                                        Sweet another homer clown added to the forum. U.K. only beat them by what 30? Yea they right there with them.,
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                                        • 2daBank
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                                          • 01-26-09
                                          • 88966

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by danthaman101183
                                          It could could happen yes, but I wouldn't make any sort of wager on that
                                          Obviously depends on matchups but most likely I will indeed make such a wager.. This team has had the smell of a high seed early exit all season to me..
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                                          • danthaman101183
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 07-24-07
                                            • 386

                                            #22
                                            Congrats..yea we looked bad there at the end, bill will rip into them after this one..no team with elite talent can let mediocre teams hang around...anything can happen at the end for underdogs who have nothing to lose



                                            Originally posted by KRIT
                                            Wow can't believe TCU cashed. I basically counted it as a loss.
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                                            • danthaman101183
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 07-24-07
                                              • 386

                                              #23
                                              Uk is incredible..by far the best team on the court most any given night...that happened to be our worst game of the year..but yes, Kentucky is scary good and can embarrass plenty teams

                                              Sweet another homer clown added to the forum. U.K. only beat them by what 30? Yea they right there with them.,[/QUOTE]
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                                              • 2daBank
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                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by danthaman101183
                                                Uk is incredible..by far the best team on the court most any given night...that happened to be our worst game of the year..but yes, Kentucky is scary good and can embarrass plenty teams

                                                Sweet another homer clown added to the forum. U.K. only beat them by what 30? Yea they right there with them.,
                                                [/QUOTE]

                                                I'm on record disagreeing w anyone calling ku bad, I think their body of work is as impressive as anyone's in the country. I honestly don't know how good they are, I think their shooters are pretty streaky and for most part I feel like they have struggled vs the better defensive teams they have faced. Still anyone not giving them respect is ignoring the fact they have faced and beaten a lot of quality teams..so I guess your reaction isn't that bad cause u were responding to ppl that were pretty extreme the other direction in saying "ku sucks"..
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                                                • KRIT
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                                                  • 01-11-14
                                                  • 12878

                                                  #25
                                                  Yeah I still think KU is nothing special. I think they'll be lucky to get past the first weekend in the ncaa tournament. And like OP said, probably the weakest KU team in a long time.
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                                                  • 2daBank
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by KRIT
                                                    Yeah I still think KU is nothing special. I think they'll be lucky to get past the first weekend in the ncaa tournament. And like OP said, probably the weakest KU team in a long time.
                                                    We agree on the 1st weekend, long as they don't get cupcake draw. We have had this talk a bunch lately and I still think it hard to argue against their body of work no matter what u think bout them.
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                                                    • JohnD25
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                                                      • 09-01-11
                                                      • 395

                                                      #27
                                                      Kansas has an tough matchup against ISU Monday, very close game when they first played 3 weeks ago. Will definitely be a game to wawatch.

                                                      Oubre is an monster, and as long as he has his 3's falling to keep pace with an high offensive team like ISU I think they will keep it very close if not win this one at home.
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                                                      • 2daBank
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                                                        • 01-26-09
                                                        • 88966

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by JohnD25
                                                        Kansas has an tough matchup against ISU Monday, very close game when they first played 3 weeks ago. Will definitely be a game to wawatch.

                                                        Oubre is an monster, and as long as he has his 3's falling to keep pace with an high offensive team like ISU I think they will keep it very close if not win this one at home.
                                                        all ku shots will fall against the garbage ass d isu plays. i think they will beat them and by a sizable margin.
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                                                        • Timmah2483
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-25-10
                                                          • 610

                                                          #29
                                                          Kansas playing close games. They dont "suck", they are overrated. 4 guys on Wooden watch, should look like Kentucky, not playing close games with TCU.
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