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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    Final Four Discussion
    Since we have to wait a whole week, figured we could just BS about the lines.

    Michigan State +4
    UConn -4

    Total: 135

    Villanova +8
    UNC -8

    Total: 160
  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #2
    Guess I'll start with my first glance ...

    I think UConn is a solid choice. I've understimated State in this tournament and perhaps they get me again here, but UConn doesn't look like a good match for them. UConn's bigs are far more productive as a unit and should be able to work them in the half court set, something Louisville's did not do well at all. Giving Calhoun a week to figure out how to slow up Suton will help. I'm guessing Adrien or Robinson gets him so that Thabeet isn't caught on the perimeter with him or at least they alternate the trio on him.

    I would love to take Villanova and the points because they've made me some nice cash this tourney, but I gotta really dig in on that one before I have a firm choice in mind.

    Totals - no opinion right now. I lean slightly to the over MSU-UConn. Other one could go either way.
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    • Renojaguar
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-29-09
      • 921

      #3
      UCONN vs. Villanova

      bank it
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      • xyzky
        SBR MVP
        • 08-23-07
        • 1577

        #4
        Eagles,
        Both Unders look very nice again!! I will also probably take both dogs...
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        • PsychoQ
          SBR MVP
          • 12-13-08
          • 1130

          #5
          i wouldnt say bank it that uconn and nova will play but its a possibility.
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          • dwest718
            SBR Sharp
            • 12-06-07
            • 443

            #6
            Michigan St. vs. UNC

            Bank it
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            • Vonnegut
              SBR MVP
              • 01-08-09
              • 1499

              #7
              I like UNC and UConn to win but I really like Villanova to cover. Like the under on Huskies/Spartans.
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #8
                State-UConn total is already down 1.5 from opening. Nova down a point as well. Big early moves on the UNDER and 'Nova. Expecting the Nova one to ride back and forth between 7-8 all week. Can't really see it going to much further in each direction.
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                • NardVa
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-02-07
                  • 8325

                  #9
                  Mich St straight up over Uconn. This is basically a home game. No way they let their fans down. Mich St will seize the moment and at least make it to the finals.
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                  • GatorFan
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-19-07
                    • 2969

                    #10
                    Nova +8 seems to be a solid bet to me
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                    • darkside99
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 12-21-07
                      • 54

                      #11
                      I like Uconn to cover and the OVER in the NC/Villanova game
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                      • dbldown
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-09-08
                        • 1055

                        #12
                        Michigan St has great defense and they are playing at home, it looks like the books have already accounted for that. If UConn plays a quick game (they should dictate the tempo) the over may be a good bet.

                        If it goes over, UConn wins the game. If they play into MSU's hands like Louisville did, it is game over.
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                        • dbldown
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-09-08
                          • 1055

                          #13
                          Nova doesn't have the talent to hang with UNC, I'd say the books are right. Locked in UNC -7.
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                          • WOODCHIP
                            Restricted User
                            • 03-21-09
                            • 82

                            #14
                            well supposedly louisville had the talent and they lost to mich. st. Talent alone doesn't always win..
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                            • EaglesPhan36
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 71662

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dbldown
                              Nova doesn't have the talent to hang with UNC, I'd say the books are right. Locked in UNC -7.
                              I disagree with that. Villanova has been a very under-rated unit all tourney. They have the perimeter guys to match up pretty well with UNC. The only place UNC has a better advantage is with their depth in the front court. I think it's going to be a lot closer than most think. If Villanova is hitting outside shots and getting into the lane with penetration, an upset is a real possibility to me.
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                              • Axis
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-09
                                • 1255

                                #16
                                Just to point out...I know this is a different time of year, but MSU has lost at Ford Field already this year...

                                No betting for me on that game...just gonna sit back, and hopefully watch my Spartans win
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                                • ASH0479
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 02-24-09
                                  • 491

                                  #17
                                  ....

                                  Yeah the Spartys have played two games at Ford Field in the last two years, neither have been pretty for MSU....something to think about
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                                  • dwest718
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-06-07
                                    • 443

                                    #18
                                    I've made a ton of money betting Villanova because nobody knew that they were actually the 3rd best team in the Big East this season and really were better than their ranking all year (even though they were in the Top 15 all season).

                                    Villanova is a better version of LSU that's not quite as athletic but better at creating scoring. UNC has shown they can play defense. Early money was >80% on Villanova. ML is still >65%. Public has gone from not even thinking twice about Nova to thinking they're giant killers. Duke sucks and Nova beat Pitt during the regular season.

                                    Just some food for thought
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                                    • Masterbettor
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-18-08
                                      • 121

                                      #19
                                      Suton didn't play against North Carolina.
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                                      • dwest718
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-06-07
                                        • 443

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Masterbettor
                                        Suton didn't play against North Carolina.



                                        I fail to see any relevance to this statement... you know UNC is playing Villanova in the Final 4 right?
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                                        • Masterbettor
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-18-08
                                          • 121

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dwest718


                                          I fail to see any relevance to this statement... you know UNC is playing Villanova in the Final 4 right?
                                          lol Obviously, just stating that MSU were missing Suton when getting blown out by NC at Ford Field.
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                                          • Shortstop
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 01-02-09
                                            • 27281

                                            #22
                                            Connecticut vs. Villanova in the Final
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                                            • schaapattack
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-23-08
                                              • 1007

                                              #23
                                              Uconn and NC will win fairily easily, trust me. Doesnt matter they are playing in Ford Field, Uconn is the superior team and Villanova's lucky run is over.
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                                              • Ralphie1412
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-29-08
                                                • 13963

                                                #24
                                                there has been nothing "lucky" about novas run. They beat the shit out of duke then played pitt tough the whole game and finished strong.
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                                                • louisvillekid
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 08-14-07
                                                  • 9263

                                                  #25
                                                  UConn over MSU , UNC n Nova over , UConn over UNC in Champ.
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #26
                                                    I don't feel good about a side or total in the first one. I think I am going to play a prop in the State-UConn game. Looking for the over in the 2nd as I think 'Nova will score on Carolina and vice versa with the game into the 160s. Still deliberating.
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                                                    • mann2chc
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 03-04-09
                                                      • 685

                                                      #27
                                                      UCONN/MICH ST UNDER 133.5
                                                      UNC/NOVA OVER 159

                                                      ...thoughts anyone???
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                                                      • Todd2122
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 12-23-08
                                                        • 403

                                                        #28
                                                        Ford Field is not a home court advantage. Don't let that sway you. Take UCONN big!
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                                                        • pimike
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-23-08
                                                          • 37140

                                                          #29
                                                          I have a funny feeling neither big east team will win

                                                          NC VS MS believe
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                                                          • caseyking2
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-13-06
                                                            • 1261

                                                            #30
                                                            Mich St vs North Carolina
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                                                            • whoatommy
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 09-29-08
                                                              • 863

                                                              #31
                                                              UConn is 16-1 on the road for those that think Michigan State will have some kind of edge playing at Ford Field.
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                                                              • seaborneq
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-08-06
                                                                • 22556

                                                                #32
                                                                Nova vs Mich State is the unlikeliest matchup. I like it though.
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                                                                • hockey216
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-20-08
                                                                  • 4583

                                                                  #33
                                                                  UNDER TOM IZZO,

                                                                  EVERY SINGLE PLAYER WHO HAS BEEN AT MICHIGAN STATE FOR 4 YEARS HAS GONE TO THE FINAL FOUR.

                                                                  Uconn mediocre from FT line... the rumbling floors of the MSU crowd certainly will not help.

                                                                  27,000 michigan state fans attended practice.. and stayed whole time.
                                                                  Crowd will be loud and wearing green.

                                                                  their mediocre bench could be a problem, but we'll see.

                                                                  no, im not an msu fan.
                                                                  i'm from the beantown. sports capital of the world right now.
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                                                                  • hockey216
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-20-08
                                                                    • 4583

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by whoatommy
                                                                    UConn is 16-1 on the road for those that think Michigan State will have some kind of edge playing at Ford Field.
                                                                    home court in regular season is not = to home court in national championship semi-final
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                                                                    • hockey216
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-20-08
                                                                      • 4583

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                                      I disagree with that. Villanova has been a very under-rated unit all tourney. They have the perimeter guys to match up pretty well with UNC. The only place UNC has a better advantage is with their depth in the front court. I think it's going to be a lot closer than most think. If Villanova is hitting outside shots and getting into the lane with penetration, an upset is a real possibility to me.

                                                                      bingo.
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