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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Two ballsy early lines Saturday
    Oklahoma +3 vs. Iowa State
    Dayton -2 vs. St. Louis

    Wow. I have OU +5.5 and Dayton +2, and I think it'd be hard to argue otherwise. Do the linesmakers nail these games or get KenPom'ed again?

    Edit: holy hell, make that three. Arkansas -1 vs. Florida?
  • TeamDetroit
    SBR Sharp
    • 09-12-12
    • 486

    #2
    I def agree with your view on Dayton. I would see a slight advantage for STL in this spot and not Dayton. I thought maybe this game would be a pickem but its moving to Dayton -2.5 at some books
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    • No coincidences
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-18-10
      • 76300

      #3
      A few other thoughts....

      I don't think Payne is playing for MSU tomorrow, and the Spartans are coming off an emotional win over OSU. Gopher line seems high at +11.

      Drake is +9 at UNI. What? I have Drake +6 in this spot.

      Like Missouri State +10 vs. Wichita.

      St. John's at +5 vs. Villanova sort of has my attention.
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      • PittsburghPlayer
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-11-10
        • 6760

        #4
        NC, nice hit on the Hawks on Wed I think it was. I increased my play a bit after reading your thoughts. Thank you. Hope you bat a thousand today!
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        • RavensFan2k3
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-18-12
          • 17378

          #5
          Originally posted by No coincidences
          A few other thoughts....

          I don't think Payne is playing for MSU tomorrow, and the Spartans are coming off an emotional win over OSU. Gopher line seems high at +11.

          Drake is +9 at UNI. What? I have Drake +6 in this spot.

          Like Missouri State +10 vs. Wichita.

          St. John's at +5 vs. Villanova sort of has my attention.
          Has my attention too
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          • Madison
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-16-11
            • 6467

            #6
            St John's so undisciplined and inconsistent perimeter scoring I have a hard time counting on them. My 2 cents. GL
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #7
              Originally posted by Madison
              St John's so undisciplined and inconsistent perimeter scoring I have a hard time counting on them. My 2 cents. GL
              Agree they're very erratic. Who knows. Nova is good, but I'm not sure (yet) that they're Top-10 good, though.
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              • leetreaper
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 10-23-10
                • 34841

                #8
                I'm on Dayton and Arky.
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #9
                  Florida's leading scorer is out. Guess that line makes at least a little more sense now.
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                  • No coincidences
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-18-10
                    • 76300

                    #10
                    Originally posted by leetreaper
                    I'm on Dayton and Arky.
                    Looks good. Boston College might be worth considering too if you want an early degenerate bet. VT is a mess right now.
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                    • No coincidences
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-18-10
                      • 76300

                      #11
                      ISU -4.5 now. Should probably close at 5 or 5.5 to be honest. If it doesn't, I wouldn't want to be on the Cyclones.
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                      • biggie12
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-30-05
                        • 13793

                        #12
                        No coin Indy U -1 $2500 what u think?
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                        • RavensFan2k3
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-18-12
                          • 17378

                          #13
                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                          ISU -4.5 now. Should probably close at 5 or 5.5 to be honest. If it doesn't, I wouldn't want to be on the Cyclones.
                          Why do you like the sooners here?
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                          • cmatth1326
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-18-08
                            • 761

                            #14
                            Ok is good but can't hang with Iowa st
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                            • No coincidences
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-18-10
                              • 76300

                              #15
                              Originally posted by biggie12
                              No coin Indy U -1 $2500 what u think?
                              Makes sense on paper, but IU isn't very good and hard to trust them away from home. PSU is garbage though.
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                              • biggie12
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-30-05
                                • 13793

                                #16
                                gonna take a shot before i unload half my roll on brady later.
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                                • blackeyeshamus
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-19-11
                                  • 6632

                                  #17
                                  Thanks for the Intel, NC.
                                  just hit zoo MASS 2h -7 @+105
                                  for the win vs bonnies, but I've been
                                  cold as a kick in the asz with a frozen boot lately. BOL, NC.
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                                  • No coincidences
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 76300

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by biggie12
                                    gonna take a shot before i unload half my roll on brady later.
                                    Not sure if I'd go huge, but I do like the Pats. Good luck my man.
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                                    • No coincidences
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by blackeyeshamus
                                      Thanks for the Intel, NC.
                                      just hit zoo MASS 2h -7 @+105
                                      for the win vs bonnies, but I've been
                                      cold as a kick in the asz with a frozen boot lately. BOL, NC.
                                      Good luck chief.

                                      Cyclones go down and BC cashes. Dayton falls. We'll see what happens here with Arkansas and St. John's 2H.
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #20
                                        Payne out for MSU. Trice doubtful.
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                                        • dwinder98
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 12-20-13
                                          • 82

                                          #21
                                          and ark at home is unstoppable..
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                                          • Tommy Karate
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-12-13
                                            • 13445

                                            #22
                                            florida plays crazy good defense....they are gonna be a force come march.

                                            and they hit their free throws.
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                                            • blackeyeshamus
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-19-11
                                              • 6632

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by blackeyeshamus
                                              Thanks for the Intel, NC.
                                              just hit zoo MASS 2h -7 @+105
                                              for the win vs bonnies, but I've been
                                              cold as a kick in the asz with a frozen boot lately. BOL, NC.
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                                              • cmatth1326
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 11-18-08
                                                • 761

                                                #24
                                                I am such a loser. I couldn't pick my nose if I had to.
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                                                • Tommy Karate
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-12-13
                                                  • 13445

                                                  #25
                                                  arkansas just blew it.....missed front end of 1 and 1 to go up 4. 67% choke artist...

                                                  that wide open missed dunk 3 minutes ago was the difference.
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                                                  • No coincidences
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                    • 76300

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Tommy Karate
                                                    arkansas just blew it.....missed front end of 1 and 1 to go up 4. 67% choke artist...

                                                    that wide open missed dunk 3 minutes ago was the difference.
                                                    Ho-hum -- another highly-ranked road dog cashes. Par for the course.
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                                                    • Tommy Karate
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-12-13
                                                      • 13445

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                      Ho-hum -- another highly-ranked road dog cashes. Par for the course.
                                                      gonna start playing more higher ranked teams....im way overthinking this sport.
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                                                      • No coincidences
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-18-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Tommy Karate
                                                        gonna start playing more higher ranked teams....im way overthinking this sport.
                                                        There's no other sport on the planet where a top-level team would open as a dog against a middle-tier opponent -- let alone have the line move in favor of the middle-tier opponent. It doesn't happen in college football or any sports at the pro level, other than baseball every once in a while due to pitching matchups. I'm saying (again) that KenPom and computers have Vegas spooked, and their lazy inflexibility when it comes to copying their homework is a huge detriment to their bottom line. Are you telling me Arkansas would've been -3.5 in this exact same spot 10 years ago? Hell no.
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                                                        • Tommy Karate
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-12-13
                                                          • 13445

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                          There's no other sport on the planet where a top-level team would open as a dog against a middle-tier opponent -- let alone have the line move in favor of the middle-tier opponent. It doesn't happen in college football or any sports at the pro level, other than baseball every once in a while due to pitching matchups. I'm saying (again) that KenPom and computers have Vegas spooked, and their lazy inflexibility when it comes to copying their homework is a huge detriment to their bottom line. Are you telling me Arkansas would've been -3.5 in this exact same spot 10 years ago? Hell no.
                                                          arkansas would have been +3.5 and covered...
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                                                          • No coincidences
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-18-10
                                                            • 76300

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Tommy Karate
                                                            arkansas would have been +3.5 and covered...
                                                            Exactly.

                                                            Meanwhile, Duke gets destroyed today, Memphis is losing, Auburn covers the original line, etc. Like I said, the games are out there -- you just have to find them and there are so many to choose from.
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                              I don't think Payne is playing for MSU tomorrow, and the Spartans are coming off an emotional win over OSU. Gopher line seems high at +11.
                                                              Wow. Did that just happen?

                                                              Holy shit.
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                                                              • RavensFan2k3
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-18-12
                                                                • 17378

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                Wow. Did that just happen?

                                                                Holy shit.
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                                                                • No coincidences
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 01-18-10
                                                                  • 76300

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                  Drake is +9 at UNI. What? I have Drake +6 in this spot.
                                                                  The trifecta. First Arkansas, then Minnesota, now this.

                                                                  4:23 Seth VanDeest made Free Throw. 61-58
                                                                  4:23 Seth VanDeest missed Free Throw. 61-58
                                                                  4:23 61-58 Seth Tuttle Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  4:05 61-60 Wes Washpun made Layup.
                                                                  3:42 Richard Carter Turnover. 61-60
                                                                  3:41 61-60 Nate Buss Steal.
                                                                  3:37 61-63 Matt Bohannon made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Deon Mitchell.
                                                                  3:04 Jordan Daniels missed Layup. 61-63
                                                                  3:04 61-63 Matt Bohannon Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  2:58 61-66 Nate Buss made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Deon Mitchell.
                                                                  2:53 Drake Timeout
                                                                  2:42 Richard Carter missed Three Point Jumper. 61-66
                                                                  2:42 61-66 Seth Tuttle Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  2:07 61-68 Deon Mitchell made Layup.
                                                                  1:48 61-68 Foul on Wes Washpun.
                                                                  1:48 Official TV Timeout
                                                                  1:48 Jordan Daniels made Free Throw. 62-68
                                                                  1:48 Jordan Daniels made Free Throw. 63-68
                                                                  1:43 63-70 Deon Mitchell made Layup. Assisted by Wes Washpun.
                                                                  1:30 Karl Madison missed Three Point Jumper. 63-70
                                                                  1:30 63-70 Wes Washpun Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  1:22 63-72 Seth Tuttle made Layup. Assisted by Wes Washpun.
                                                                  1:08 Chris Caird missed Three Point Jumper. 63-72
                                                                  1:08 63-72 Seth Tuttle Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  0:59 Foul on Karl Madison. 63-72
                                                                  0:56 Foul on Jordan Daniels. 63-72
                                                                  0:35 Foul on Richard Carter. 63-72
                                                                  0:35 63-73 Wes Washpun made Free Throw.
                                                                  0:35 63-74 Wes Washpun made Free Throw.
                                                                  0:33 Jordan Daniels made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Richard Carter. 66-74
                                                                  0:31 Drake Timeout
                                                                  0:29 Foul on Aaron Hawley. 66-74
                                                                  0:29 66-75 Matt Bohannon made Free Throw.
                                                                  0:29 66-76 Matt Bohannon made Free Throw.
                                                                  0:23 Aaron Hawley missed Three Point Jumper. 66-76
                                                                  0:23 66-76 Northern Iowa Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  0:09 66-76 Matt Bohannon Turnover.
                                                                  0:09 Richard Carter Steal. 66-76
                                                                  0:06 Jordan Daniels missed Layup. 66-76
                                                                  0:06 66-76 Deon Mitchell Block.
                                                                  0:04 66-76 Wes Washpun Defensive Rebound.
                                                                  0:00 End of Game
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