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  • thetrinity
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-25-11
    • 22432

    #1
    anyone else think the committee did good?
    oregon as a 12th seed is kinda shaky but they have an easy trip to san jose.

    illinois being a 7 seed seems way too high.

    have no real problems with teams who were left out.
  • BigDofBA
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    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #2
    I thought they did fairly well.

    Also, I don't want to hear about teams like Virginia, Alabama, Kentucky, etc. not getting in. Those teams had plenty of chances during the regular season and didn't get it done.

    How many times do people bad mouth some of these mid-majors that get in and then they end up doing damage ala VCU a few years ago?
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    • tto827
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      • 10-01-12
      • 9078

      #3
      MTSU has no business, one top 100 win isn't worthy sorry.

      Besides that I think they did well.

      Agreed on the ones left out failed to do what was necessary.

      Illinois can play with anyone if they are hot, 7's fair.
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #4
        slu got kinda fukked i thought..4 seed in damn lou bracket? that some bs.. how vcu a 5, butler a 6, slu owns them both (twice vcu, 3 times butler) and they a damn 4 in lou bracket? didnt do the ville any favors either..
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        • Frisco
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          • 02-27-12
          • 6138

          #5
          Completely agree on slu but I saw it coming. They should be at least a 3. Also the way they handle the ball and play d they could give ville a real good game. I wish my wolfpack could have grabbed a 7 seed but I'll settle for not being in villes region
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          • PaperTrail07
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            • 08-29-08
            • 20423

            #6
            gonna be a rollercoaster....like alll the selections
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            • 2daBank
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              • 01-26-09
              • 88966

              #7
              Originally posted by Frisco
              Completely agree on slu but I saw it coming. They should be at least a 3. Also the way they handle the ball and play d they could give ville a real good game. I wish my wolfpack could have grabbed a 7 seed but I'll settle for not being in villes region
              they spanked new mexico and they a fukkkin 2? yea it was at home but they seriously beat them down,, i knew a 4 was coming, i told my slu buddies (being from stl and all) when they kept saying 3 the other day but damn they didnt have to put them in lou bracket and yea i think they will give them a very good gm just been nice to be in zags bracket or ku been fine ...
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              • YouHave2outs
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                • 07-02-11
                • 4448

                #8
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                • Frisco
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                  • 02-27-12
                  • 6138

                  #9
                  Your from stl? What part? I think they're better off with ville than ku. Zags would have been really nice tho. Outside of the URI loss they had an awesome season. Maybe the selection committee needs to watch more basketball
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                  • Speedy88
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                    • 03-19-11
                    • 11717

                    #10
                    I thought they did a good job getting the right teams in. As for the seeding, I thought they could have done better. Oregon as a 12 seed is a joke. That means they were considered a bubble team. They were ranked for the majority of the season, and they got through the season without their star PG.

                    Illinois at #7 is way too high.

                    And is it me, or is the West region pretty weak looking. Zags look like the weakest #1 seed. Ohio St looks like the weakest #2 seed. KState looks like the weakest #4 seed (you could argue between them and Cuse).

                    East and South look pretty stacked.
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                    • Frisco
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                      • 02-27-12
                      • 6138

                      #11
                      West always seems to be really weak. I don't think anyone stands between miami and the elite 8
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                      • bubblebuttluv
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                        • 11-13-12
                        • 5179

                        #12
                        I am happy with it. I would have been pissed if Kentucky scraped in. I agree with Frisco, that the West is weak.
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                        • Speedy88
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                          • 03-19-11
                          • 11717

                          #13
                          Nova as a #9 seed is pushing it. Sure they had some big wins against Georgetown, Louisville, Cuse and UConn, but they also had some really bad losses. I also just think they suck. UNC should handle them.
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                          • 2daBank
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                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Frisco
                            West always seems to be really weak. I don't think anyone stands between miami and the elite 8
                            was just saying same thing, they got a really easy draw to that point,,1st bracket i did i had them beating indy, im sure that change 3 times tho
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                            • Frisco
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                              • 02-27-12
                              • 6138

                              #15
                              I could see a nc state vs miami elite 8. Just really not sold on indy. This could be the optimistican in me tho lol
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                              • Speedy88
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                                • 03-19-11
                                • 11717

                                #16
                                Originally posted by 2daBank
                                was just saying same thing, they got a really easy draw to that point,,1st bracket i did i had them beating indy, im sure that change 3 times tho
                                Surprised that Ohio St wasn't considered the worst #2 seed. Ohio St went from possibly being a #4 seed to being a #2 seed, not to mention not even the last #2 seed. Don't get that one. West looks like a cake walk. Zags got lucky. If Zags were in any other bracket, I'd say they have a 15-20% chance of reaching the final four. By the looks of the West, they have a decent shot of coming out the West region.
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                                • k13
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                                  • 07-16-10
                                  • 18104

                                  #17
                                  Horrible compared to previous years. Just look at the odds.

                                  It's like they did everything opposite as they used to do.
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                                  • pulledclear
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                                    • 02-19-12
                                    • 6684

                                    #18
                                    It doesnt really matter because NO ONE HIGHER THEN A 4 SEED WINS. Upsets sure, Cinderellas yes but win it ALL??? generally a 1 or a 2. So what does it really matter????
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                                    • k13
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                                      • 07-16-10
                                      • 18104

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                      I thought they did fairly well.

                                      Also, I don't want to hear about teams like Virginia, Alabama, Kentucky, etc. not getting in. Those teams had plenty of chances during the regular season and didn't get it done.

                                      How many times do people bad mouth some of these mid-majors that get in and then they end up doing damage ala VCU a few years ago?
                                      What did they not get done?

                                      What did Boise, la salle, middle tennessee, etc. get done? Nothing, lost early in tourneys, beat nobody, played in shitty conferences.

                                      Mid-majors never ever win anything anyway.
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                                      • Frisco
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                                        • 02-27-12
                                        • 6138

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by k13
                                        what did they not get done?

                                        What did boise, la salle, middle tennessee, etc. Get done? Nothing, lost early in tourneys, beat nobody, played in shitty conferences.

                                        Mid-majors never ever win anything anyway.
                                        a10> mwc>sec
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                                        • k13
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                                          • 07-16-10
                                          • 18104

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Frisco
                                          a10> mwc>sec
                                          Only stupid people think like that.

                                          Check the odds.
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                                          • Frisco
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                                            • 02-27-12
                                            • 6138

                                            #22
                                            Top to bottom and on neutral court both those conferences are better than the sec
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                                            • thetrinity
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                                              • 01-25-11
                                              • 22432

                                              #23
                                              i thought the right teams got into the field.

                                              mid ten st is the shakiest one, but winning 28 games is winning 28 games especially in a season where the bubble teams were so weak.

                                              some seedings are whacko but at least the right teams are in, first year im not screaming at the tv about someone being in the field.

                                              you would have to think that had any bubble teams did anything this week teams like st marys and middle tennessee state would be at home.
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                                              • texhooper
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                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 10001

                                                #24
                                                i echo the oregon sentiment, but they got screwed not only by being a 12, but they have to play fukking osu as a 5. what kind of shit is that? i'm not pac 12 fan at all, but damn man, talk about the shittiest of draws...

                                                Originally posted by Frisco
                                                Top to bottom and on neutral court both those conferences are better than the sec
                                                ^^^ i agree with this. maybe i am a stupid people too.
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                                                • ebbearsfb1
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-07-08
                                                  • 18815

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by k13
                                                  What did they not get done?

                                                  What did Boise, la salle, middle tennessee, etc. get done? Nothing, lost early in tourneys, beat nobody, played in shitty conferences.

                                                  Mid-majors never ever win anything anyway.
                                                  i mean are you just arguing cause your in favor of the power conferences or what???


                                                  virginia?
                                                  maryland?
                                                  bama?
                                                  tennessee?
                                                  kentcky

                                                  those teams had chance to get in, none of them deserved to be in though..



                                                  and mid majors never win anything? how many of those last teams in ever go far ? besides a mid major in VCU.




                                                  well its too late now to complain... sorry all the big 6 conference teams you wanted to get in didn get in
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                                                  • ebbearsfb1
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                                                    • 12-07-08
                                                    • 18815

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by thetrinity
                                                    i thought the right teams got into the field.

                                                    mid ten st is the shakiest one, but winning 28 games is winning 28 games especially in a season where the bubble teams were so weak.

                                                    some seedings are whacko but at least the right teams are in, first year im not screaming at the tv about someone being in the field.

                                                    you would have to think that had any bubble teams did anything this week teams like st marys and middle tennessee state would be at home.
                                                    exactly, virginia had some bad loses, kentucky bad loses, maryland?, tennessee?


                                                    i think they did a fine job its never gonna be perfect, but if people did blind resume test and removed the power conference names from the jersey i think people would see the committee got the right teams in..but it was a very softy bubble so i dont think they have anyone can say we deserved to get in and got truly screwed


                                                    and sure people wish seeding was better... but there is a lot that goes into seeding that fans dont see as far as they have to seed
                                                    based off other teams in their conferences, location of games, thursday/friday etc...
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                                                    • k13
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                                                      • 07-16-10
                                                      • 18104

                                                      #27
                                                      High Seeds from big conferences make it far too in recent times. (Final Four)

                                                      #5 msu
                                                      #5 Nova
                                                      #6 Wisconsin
                                                      #10 NC State
                                                      #5 Indiana
                                                      #8 Wisconsin
                                                      #8 North Carolina

                                                      Can you tell me what Middle Teneessee accomplished that these others teams did not?
                                                      Only one team can win the conference tourney, what do you want the other teams to do?

                                                      We had 4 MWC teams last year in, what did they do? Nothing.
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                                                      • thetrinity
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                                                        • 01-25-11
                                                        • 22432

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by k13
                                                        High Seeds from big conferences make it far too in recent times. (Final Four)

                                                        #5 msu
                                                        #5 Nova
                                                        #6 Wisconsin
                                                        #10 NC State
                                                        #5 Indiana
                                                        #8 Wisconsin
                                                        #8 North Carolina

                                                        Can you tell me what Middle Teneessee accomplished that these others teams did not?
                                                        Only one team can win the conference tourney, what do you want the other teams to do?

                                                        We had 4 MWC teams last year in, what did they do? Nothing.
                                                        they won more games lol.

                                                        sounds stupid but they did. teams like virginia maryland iowa got penalized for not playing the mid majors early.

                                                        i woulda been fine if they got left out, my point was more that there was no one off the wall in it, you could have put in tennessee instead and i wouldnt have cared.
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                                                        • Speedy88
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                                                          • 03-19-11
                                                          • 11717

                                                          #29
                                                          There isn't much controversy this yr because there weren't many upsets in the conference tourneys. So plenty of spots were open, and none of the bubble teams were that great. I don't think anyone can have a valid argument for any of the teams left out. Kentucky should have been on the first 25 out. Other than their win at home vs Florida, they showed nothing down the stretch without Noel.

                                                          There really controversay today is how bad the Pac12 got screwed. PAC12 isn't that good, but you have to seed the teams fairly. Oregon deserved to be at least a 6 or 7 seed in my opinion. To make Illinois a 7 seed and Oregon a 12 seed makes no sense. Really sucks to be OK St. As a #5 seed, I'd feel jobbed by getting matched up with a quality team like Oregon in the first round.
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                                                          • thetrinity
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-25-11
                                                            • 22432

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Speedy88
                                                            There isn't much controversy this yr because there weren't many upsets in the conference tourneys. So plenty of spots were open, and none of the bubble teams were that great. I don't think anyone can have a valid argument for any of the teams left out. Kentucky should have been on the first 25 out. Other than their win at home vs Florida, they showed nothing down the stretch without Noel.

                                                            There really controversay today is how bad the Pac12 got screwed. PAC12 isn't that good, but you have to seed the teams fairly. Oregon deserved to be at least a 6 or 7 seed in my opinion. To make Illinois a 7 seed and Oregon a 12 seed makes no sense. Really sucks to be OK St. As a #5 seed, I'd feel jobbed by getting matched up with a quality team like Oregon in the first round.
                                                            good point about the bubble teams not doing shit this week, made the job a lot easier on the committee. maryland was far off the radar before they upset duke or they wouldnt have even been in the discussion.

                                                            i said some of the seedings were weird, but at least oregon got to play in northern california.

                                                            i think the 4 teams in the at large playin games deserved to be in those spots as well so no complaint there.
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                                                            • Poison-Nut
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                                                              • 02-14-13
                                                              • 303

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by k13
                                                              High Seeds from big conferences make it far too in recent times. (Final Four)

                                                              #5 msu
                                                              #5 Nova
                                                              #6 Wisconsin
                                                              #10 NC State
                                                              #5 Indiana
                                                              #8 Wisconsin
                                                              #8 North Carolina

                                                              Can you tell me what Middle Teneessee accomplished that these others teams did not?
                                                              Only one team can win the conference tourney, what do you want the other teams to do?

                                                              We had 4 MWC teams last year in, what did they do? Nothing.
                                                              So from the teams you listed, 4 from the Big 10, 2 from ACC, and 1 from Bigeast. Where are the rest of the big conferences you are talking about. I am glad Middle Tenn made it in. they deserve it. They beat UCF, Vandy, Ole Miss, and went 28-5. They play who is on their schedule - that's it.
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                                                              • texhooper
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                                                                • 01-05-09
                                                                • 10001

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Speedy88
                                                                There really controversay today is how bad the Pac12 got screwed. PAC12 isn't that good, but you have to seed the teams fairly. Oregon deserved to be at least a 6 or 7 seed in my opinion. To make Illinois a 7 seed and Oregon a 12 seed makes no sense. Really sucks to be OK St. As a #5 seed, I'd feel jobbed by getting matched up with a quality team like Oregon in the first round.
                                                                i bet they both feel jobbed. neither deserve such a tough matchup in the first round. but it's the tournament, you're usually only a round away from a tough matchup. not fair for these teams to play each other so early though. i mean, you got memphis playing against a battle of two of the last four in as a 6 seed, yet ok state is rewarded for their great season by playing the pac 12 tournament champion? on the flipside, you win the pac 12 tournament against 6 seed ucla, then you have to play damn ok state out the gate? makes no sense.
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                                                                • pulledclear
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                                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                                  • 6684

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Indiana beats Gonzaga for Nat title. Colorado bounces Miami out early. Bet the dogs n the play in games. and if you didnt see the Bradley Provodnkov fight last night I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU WATCH THE REPLAY it was a fricking WAR!!!! GL
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                                                                  • Bet10Heinekens
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                                                                    • 01-10-13
                                                                    • 10567

                                                                    #34
                                                                    How the f@ck did Boise St get in

                                                                    Was the MWC really that strong of conference to get 5 teams in
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                                                                    • Frisco
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                                                                      • 02-27-12
                                                                      • 6138

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I think boises more of a nit team but bubble was so weak I understand how they made it
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