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  • 2daBank
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    • 01-26-09
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    #1
    much better card on tues discussion
    wasnt really shit worth betting tonight, do have a small play on wvu/kst un 127 and a little more on wvu tt un 58.5 as i dont see them scoring a whole lot,that bout it for me on today's card but 2marro brings much better matchups and some more gms to pick from...just starting on card (havnt placed anythng yet as i dont think im gonna get a worse number on anything by waiting but figure id talk some leans and see what everyone else is thinking...

    uva+8.5/ un 116.5..much like the clem gm the other day and several other times when canes play slow paced defensive teams i love the under cause it gonna take a lot of unusual things to happen to even break 100 with these 2...uva defends the 3 very well and mia takes a lot of treys, neither team gets to the line a ton and neither gives up a lot of free throws, both teams play at a snails pace, ultimately not sure it will even take 60 to win this gm and in a gm i expect to be very low scoring 8.5 points is quite a bit.quite often these low totals get bet up a few points and while i think 116.5 is to many wont hurt my feelings to get 118 or so later on..far as spread no idea where it will go but perfectly content with the +8.5 it at now...

    ind st +3..home doggies rule the mvc,,dont like that indy st won the 1st meeting but do like they coming off 2 road losses and shockers coming off that bs crazy win at illi st last night (yea i lost money on it )...

    the vcu/slu gm is incredibly intersting to me and will def get more into that one 2marro when i have more time and im sure a few more totals when they become available...just thought id see if we could get some discussion going on what looks to be a pretty solid tues card...so look forward to reading everyone's thoughts on these and any of the rest of the card and will hop on sometime 2marro during the day and respond to everyone best i can...
  • numismatist
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    • 10-02-11
    • 2192

    #2
    Looking forward to the Virginia/Miami and VCU/StLouis games tomorrow should be awesome. Leans on the dogs on both.
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    • 2daBank
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      • 01-26-09
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      #3
      Originally posted by numismatist
      Looking forward to the Virginia/Miami and VCU/StLouis games tomorrow should be awesome. Leans on the dogs on both.
      already locked in uva+8.5...little torn on vcu gm,,i will get more into that one 2marro when i have more time..
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      • mistermatt891
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        • 02-14-13
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        #4
        some great games tommorow
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        • curtrambus
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          #5
          I'm on Virgina +8 and Texas -5 tommorow already love those. Texas just couldn't put the ball in the basket against KU they are much better with Kabongo and should roll TCU.
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          • Louisvillekid1
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            • 10-17-07
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            #6
            Haven't spoke in a while banker, hope all is well!

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            • mistermatt891
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              • 02-14-13
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              #7
              love miami -8 tommorow

              they have had 2 tough games on the road and barely squeaked by

              there home tommorow and will be refreshed
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              • curtrambus
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                • 09-13-12
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                #8
                I will be on Virginia ML tommorow also
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                • No coincidences
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                  • 01-18-10
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                  #9
                  UVA was awful at UNC -- can't believe they were dumb enough to run with the Heels. With that being said, I do like them in this spot as well.

                  Mizzou and St. Louis interest me. Maryland might be hung over after their big upset over Duke. Also looking at Loyola-Chicago. Going to steer clear of Indiana/MSU.

                  Rough beat with that WVU/K-State under. Sick.
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                  • hougigo
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                    • 06-01-12
                    • 3665

                    #10
                    Originally posted by curtrambus
                    I'm on Virgina +8 and Texas -5 tommorow already love those. Texas just couldn't put the ball in the basket against KU they are much better with Kabongo and should roll TCU.
                    They worry me (Texas)
                    They haven't won an away game this year and even lost to a division 2 school.
                    Given that school is no stranger to upsets and TCU is the worst school in the big 12... I just feel weary.

                    I like LSU plus points and NC State.
                    NC State a much better team at home and FSU has been really crappy on the road.
                    LSU is a tough team and has only been blown out away by Boise
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                    • numismatist
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                      • 10-02-11
                      • 2192

                      #11
                      Wolfpack look good tomorrow at -7.5

                      other lines that stick out at me right now...

                      North Carolina-2.5, Virginia+8, BC+1.5
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                      • 2daBank
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                        • 01-26-09
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        UVA was awful at UNC -- can't believe they were dumb enough to run with the Heels. With that being said, I do like them in this spot as well.

                        Mizzou and St. Louis interest me. Maryland might be hung over after their big upset over Duke. Also looking at Loyola-Chicago. Going to steer clear of Indiana/MSU.

                        Rough beat with that WVU/K-State under. Sick.
                        i should have just did 1st half, i know this, hell only watched 1st half..lol, hindsight and all.. i like that uva stunk up the joint their last gm, i trust they will be back to grinding it out, although the only other time uva has played b2b roadies in conf they lost to wake then scored 44 at clem,,so guess it wouldnt shock me if canes covered even scoring a touch under 60,,i couldnt pass the points tho as i cant imagine it stays at 8.5..hopefully total ticks up a little even tho i hate playing side and total cant help myself if i can get under 118ish..

                        i get why you like mizzou and cant really argue, line says it all...throw in mizzou wins home gms (obviously they have to cause they cant win on road for shit)..but they really havnt played anyone at home that forces turnovers like the gators and pressy can be a turnover waiting to happen, just dont trust that kid against the gator d, he could very well show out and burn a lot of fla backers as there be a ton at that price,,ill more than likely sit that out or look into the total...

                        doubt i touch the idny/msu gm either..maybe something on the vcu/slu gm when i get into it 2marro and hopefully can find another couple totals or sides..
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                        • 2daBank
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mistermatt891
                          love miami -8 tommorow

                          they have had 2 tough games on the road and barely squeaked by

                          there home tommorow and will be refreshed
                          certainly something to be said for being home but not sure how refreshed they will be just 2 days removed from a really physical gm with clem? sure they put up points when they playing the likes of nc st, unc, duke, fsu, vtech, i mean we kbout teams that get up and down the floor more/ more offensive minded and mia d can force them into bad shots that lead to easy buckets, when they run into the likes of a clem, gtech, ind st, you see they struggle much more on the offensive end and think it fair to say uva plays that style better than all those teams i just named..canes can cover but it gonna have to be by holding uva to right around 50 imo...maybe the under is better but i like the points pretty much equally.,..
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                          • 2daBank
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                            • 01-26-09
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by curtrambus
                            I'm on Virgina +8 and Texas -5 tommorow already love those. Texas just couldn't put the ball in the basket against KU they are much better with Kabongo and should roll TCU.
                            can tex ever put the ball in the basket, besides rare occasions when they play a team that lets them run? you prob right they should cover cause not sure tcu will score 50,,wonder what total be for that gm? 108.5? hell id still consider under prob, lol..
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                            • hougigo
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                              • 06-01-12
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              can tex ever put the ball in the basket, besides rare occasions when they play a team that lets them run? you prob right they should cover cause not sure tcu will score 50,,wonder what total be for that gm? 108.5? hell id still consider under prob, lol..
                              That's what I'm worried about.
                              Texas horrible away (still no win) and TCU might pull some kind of KU run
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                              • 2daBank
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                                • 01-26-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by No coincidences

                                Maryland might be hung over after their big upset over Duke.
                                i respect the hangover but honestly are they in a position to basking in the glow right now? seems to me like a gm they capable of winning and dont need to go blow it to a team they match up pretty decent with,,that said in maryland terps only won by 5 and bc shot pretty poorly from the free throw line...i dunno, id prob either square it up with terps or pass..
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                                • jinxpro13
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                                  • 01-31-12
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                                  #17
                                  where the f have u been?
                                  eyeing some ML parlays tonight been doing well with them so far. looking at NCsate/Miami/San Diego State right now... ne of em lose straight up you think? Know you took UVA with the points, but no chance they win, right?
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                                  • 2daBank
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                                    • 01-26-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jinxpro13
                                    where the f have u been?
                                    eyeing some ML parlays tonight been doing well with them so far. looking at NCsate/Miami/San Diego State right now... ne of em lose straight up you think? Know you took UVA with the points, but no chance they win, right?

                                    sup jinxy, i have a tendency to randomly disappear from time to time, damn life thing gets in the way at times ya know ..glad you been doing well, far as uva/mia i wouldnt say uva has "no chance", i like their chances to keep it close so certainly wouldnt shock me, i have it more like mia-5 tho....
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                                    • 2daBank
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                                      • 01-26-09
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                      Haven't spoke in a while banker, hope all is well!

                                      what up brother? all just lovely here, been unusually busy this winter so had to scale back on posting a little bit but gonna try to do so a little more through the conf tourneys at least ..you still crushing it?
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                                      • frongi
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                                        • 02-05-13
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                                        #20
                                        Booked nc st -7.5 and utah st +11.5. Also like Indiana
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                                        • No coincidences
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                                          • 01-18-10
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                                          #21
                                          Sounds crazy, but I don't think UVA +315 is out of the realm of possibility.
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                                          • curtrambus
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                                            • 09-13-12
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                                            #22
                                            I'm on UVA ml and feel good about it.
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                                            • curtrambus
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                                              • 09-13-12
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                                              #23
                                              Miami is overdue to lose a game I swear that team is overrated.
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                                              • 2daBank
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                                                • 01-26-09
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                Sounds crazy, but I don't think UVA +315 is out of the realm of possibility.
                                                i actually think that pretty damn good price and uva chances are certainly better than that imo, i think it will be another slugfest that comes down to the wire so getting better than 3 to 1 certainly not a bad bet..im prob not playing it simply cause i already have uva+8.5 and gonna play the under at some point as well, normally dont even like playing side and total so not sure i wanna throw the ml in there also (maybe in some random little goofy parlay )..

                                                im really torn on the vcu/slu gm nc, i can make a case for both sides and not comfortable laying even that small number with slu (maybe slu 1st half as they tend to jump out on teams at home)...actually warming up to the idea of playing the over (you know i hate overs, lol),, both teams handle the rock pretty well so dont think they will give away a lot of possessions and think both teams will have success getting good looks from behind the arc just a question of whether they falling..ellis and loe should be tough matchups for vcu and think slu will have success getting into the bonus early on but on other hand vcu speed will be hard on slu to defend ..see some value in the over at 134 as i think 140ish is not a unreasonable number in this gm, i guess the concern would be that vcu is cold from behind the arc and slu doesnt push the pace off misses (obviously that would play into vcu hands), even if that the case tho i still think slu will get to the charity stripe a bunch and at some point vcu will knock down some shots as slu isnt great defending the perimeter..think it gonna take low 70s to win this one..
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                                                • DennisT
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                                                  • 03-11-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Virginia can hang with Miami.
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                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by curtrambus
                                                    Miami is overdue to lose a game I swear that team is overrated.
                                                    i have a hard time calling mia overrated, maybe it cause i liked them from pretty early on and was talking them up when johnson was hurt so maybe i have soft spot for them making me look smart (for once, ha)...they have great size and use it very well on the defensive end, they have a ton of experience, and a young pg who is a star in the making so not sure how overrated they are? true at times larkin dribbles too much and kadji falls in love with the trey way to often but what team doesnt have flaws this year?

                                                    honestly i think mia is really good and im not a big fan of the "due" theory, not as if they have just continually been stoking it throughout the win streak, they have had plenty of ugly gms where the d kept them in gms and they made plays when they had to, to me that a sign of a pretty good team...all that said uva no slouches and really the worst team mia could have hoped for after coming off that physical ot gm with clem just 2 nights ago, cause now uva coming in and gonna force them into the same type of gm with a better offense than clem had to offer.. to me the 8.5 was insane and no it wouldnt shock me if uva found a way to win but that in no way is me hating on the U as much as it is respect for uva...
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                                                    • numismatist
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                                                      #27
                                                      Well, I ended up playing LSU, Indiana State, under on NC State/FSU, Southern Illinois and Wyoming. Really loved North Carolina today but can't pull the trigger. I think LSU can win outright, letdown spot for Tennessee here, and they aren't very good IMHO.
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                                                      • numismatist
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                                                        #28
                                                        No play for me on Miami/UVA, after capping this the number is right where it should be. I just don't see the point in taking a defensive oriented team like Virginia on the road against what could be the best team in the nation-Miami will control the tempo and force Virginia turnovers, however, I can also see a scenario where Virginia get some offensive rebound points, LOL almost talked myself into the under here...better games onboard for me.
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                                                        • hougigo
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                                                          #29
                                                          I really can't go against Miami.
                                                          Their Home ATS is perfect ( if I remember correctly) and they play tough at home.
                                                          Also the fact that Indiana might fall tonight can only motivate them more
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                                                          • 2daBank
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by numismatist
                                                            Well, I ended up playing LSU, Indiana State, under on NC State/FSU, Southern Illinois and Wyoming. Really loved North Carolina today but can't pull the trigger. I think LSU can win outright, letdown spot for Tennessee here, and they aren't very good IMHO.
                                                            Originally posted by numismatist
                                                            No play for me on Miami/UVA, after capping this the number is right where it should be. I just don't see the point in taking a defensive oriented team like Virginia on the road against what could be the best team in the nation-Miami will control the tempo and force Virginia turnovers, however, I can also see a scenario where Virginia get some offensive rebound points, LOL almost talked myself into the under here...better games onboard for me.
                                                            i lean lsu as well, only reason i havnt bet them yet is cause i hate their gm, terrible foul shooters, jack to many 3s, turn it over too damn much, last but not least (and possible biggest prob in this gm) they control the defensive glass all that well which could be a serious problem.. all that said i agree vols off the uk win and they really struggle to score to be laying this kind of number, if i trusted tigers basketball iq id love this play but i worry vols could own the offensive glass and maybe even more that lsu jacks a lot of treys that lead to run outs for easy baskets for the vols.. if lsu plays smart offensively and clean up the defensive glass vols shouldnt get over 65, not sure how big of a IF that is tho?

                                                            far as the uva/mia gm not sure it fair to say "mia will control the tempo" when both teams content playing at a rather slow pace..mia d isnt really predicated on forcing turnovers and uva solid enough with the rock that i dont think turnovers or defensive glass be a big issue for either team , gonna come down to executing in the half court which is something i think uva does slightly better than mia at times as they are patient and move the ball (assisting on 62% of their fgs)...to me 8.5 a insanely high number for a gm i feel the winning team might not crack 60..im with you on the under , just waiting cause figured out early on this yr that i can usually wait on these low numbers and get a few more points! seeing some 117.5s out there now, like i mentioned hoping to catch a 118.5 at some point..
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                                                            • No coincidences
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                                                              • 01-18-10
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                                              i have a hard time calling mia overrated, maybe it cause i liked them from pretty early on and was talking them up when johnson was hurt so maybe i have soft spot for them making me look smart (for once, ha)...they have great size and use it very well on the defensive end, they have a ton of experience, and a young pg who is a star in the making so not sure how overrated they are? true at times larkin dribbles too much and kadji falls in love with the trey way to often but what team doesnt have flaws this year?

                                                              honestly i think mia is really good and im not a big fan of the "due" theory, not as if they have just continually been stoking it throughout the win streak, they have had plenty of ugly gms where the d kept them in gms and they made plays when they had to, to me that a sign of a pretty good team...all that said uva no slouches and really the worst team mia could have hoped for after coming off that physical ot gm with clem just 2 nights ago, cause now uva coming in and gonna force them into the same type of gm with a better offense than clem had to offer.. to me the 8.5 was insane and no it wouldnt shock me if uva found a way to win but that in no way is me hating on the U as much as it is respect for uva...
                                                              I think Miami's going to the Final Four.
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                                                              • YungCiroq
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                                                                • 01-21-13
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                                                                #32
                                                                Miami will win by 10+ (easy money)... undefeated in conference 10-0, Lol sounds over rated to me
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                                                                • 2daBank
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                                                                  • 01-26-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                  I think Miami's going to the Final Four.


                                                                  wouldnt shock me in the slightest, they have all the ingredients, these days dont see many big conf programs with this much senior laden talent... their defense is so good and not predicated on forcing turnovers, def think they play the kind of gm that will translate very well in the tourney...


                                                                  funny you say this, friend of mine was in vegas in early jan and asked me to give him couple teams to take future shots on and i told him mia and gonzaga, obviously i was looking for teams with long odds cause basically a crapshoot and he was only laying hundo on each, at the time i just liked the way the canes looked w/o reggie johnson so figured they be tough when he got back (not sure i foresaw them being this good although id like to say i did, lol) and again all those talented seniors isnt something we see real often these days..zags not as confident in just cause if they have a bad offensive night they dont have that shutdown d but at the time pretty sure both were something like 30-1/40-1 or some shit so id say did pretty well for him as they both less than 10-1 now..
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                                                                  • 2daBank
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                                                                    • 01-26-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    got the 118.5 on the uva/mia under so card looks like this so far..

                                                                    uva+8.5
                                                                    uva/mia un 118.5
                                                                    vcu/slu ov 134

                                                                    still looking at the maryland/bc gm and couple others, really wanna play the under in the tex/tcu gm but havnt decided what to do there as of yet?
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                                                                    • Shark
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      2dabank,

                                                                      i know you arent real big on line moves, but this miami/uva total is upto 120. Is this a bad sign for the under? Thats a huge jump from 118 pretty close to game time..
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