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  • Magnificent
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-01-13
    • 448

    #1751
    Oh my goodness the last 3 min of this Tex/WV game have been garbarge...wtf happened?! Like 4 fast breaks gone array...and turnover after turnover...Lets get the unlikely OT magnet here!
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    • EaglesPhan36
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 71662

      #1752
      Fukk these droughts. Nearly 3:00 at the end with no points in this WV game. Needed 11 to push in 3:55 and it's not even going to be close. Just another horse shit finish.
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      • Magnificent
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-01-13
        • 448

        #1753
        I'll give Huggins credit...he switched up the D to a 1-3-1 that seemed to give Texas a lot of confusion. But even beyond that, the ball was just flying around and fast breaks couldnt even sink a basket...kinda gross
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        • EaglesPhan36
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-06-06
          • 71662

          #1754
          All we needed was one team to keep scoring and we would have gotten fouls involved and had a great shot, but both teams not being able to buy a bucket always screws overs up.
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          • Magnificent
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-01-13
            • 448

            #1755
            I broke even on that segment with a Pitt/SH und 66 at least...til tomorrow brother...gl
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            • southpaw74
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-21-09
              • 7104

              #1756
              Figures only the Texas game total was offered at dsi. Hate that crap. Play the loser and miss the winner.
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              • Nomadik
                SBR MVP
                • 06-03-10
                • 1723

                #1757
                Nevermind
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                • EaglesPhan36
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 71662

                  #1758
                  Well the possessions were extremely low too which made it an easy try. I think 1st half possessions were 58, so even if they shot red hot again - chances were that it would end up below that number. Unfortunately the SD-Loyola game really slowed pace wise. Possessions well under the expected rate. Would be nice to grab an OT helper after that Texas BS.
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #1759
                    Got some OT! But still a lot of work to be done.
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                    • JOHNNY DOBBS
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-04-12
                      • 342

                      #1760
                      come on double OT!
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                      • EaglesPhan36
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-06-06
                        • 71662

                        #1761
                        LoL. No shit. Might need triple just to score another point. Jesus these two teams completely fell off.
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                        • Nomadik
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-03-10
                          • 1723

                          #1762
                          I think both teams shot over 55% from the floor and over 50% from three in the first half. No way they were going to keep that up.
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                          • EaglesPhan36
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-06-06
                            • 71662

                            #1763
                            Shooting didn't help and was expected to drop off, but possessions/pace was what really screwed this one up. 2nd Half + OT only yielded around 70 possessions. Based on the 1st half pace, the 2nd half itself should have had at least that #.
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                            • micase
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 01-21-13
                              • 157

                              #1764
                              Someone might be able to help me here, I've been working on calculating the amount of possessions in halves and games. Take for example stats from the Pittsburgh - Seton Hall game, 2PTs were 30-88, 3PT were 10/32, FT 32/49, OR 20, TO 27 and Total Points were 102.

                              Now using the formula on the first page (and seen elsewhere on the net), the total possessions in the game are 150.275 and points/possession was around 0.68. (88+32) - 20 +0.475*49 + 27= 150.275

                              The problem I find is that in doing this calculation it seems that I'm constantly overestimating the amount of possessions (thus lowering points/pos value) compared to average pace rating given by websites like kenpom.com and teamrankings.com.

                              Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? I just quickly checked Pittsburgh's possessions per game using the formula throughout their season, they are listed as having 62-63 possessions per game on the websites above, but I rarely calculated one to land below 70.
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                              • EaglesPhan36
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-06-06
                                • 71662

                                #1765
                                The three point shots are already including in the overall FGAs and FGMs in the box scores. So the game you are looking at has 88 total FGs. 20 O-REB. 27 TO. 49 FTAs. 118 possessions or so.
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                                • EaglesPhan36
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 71662

                                  #1766
                                  Updated Record: 163-130-7 [+17.87]
                                  Viking Funeral POTD: 2-4 [-2.28]


                                  Time to get on the ball with these POTDs!
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                                  • LowRollin
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 02-29-12
                                    • 467

                                    #1767
                                    gl EP!
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                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-06-06
                                      • 71662

                                      #1768
                                      2.5.13
                                      Viking Funeral POTD: Miami Team Total Over 70 [-110]

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                                      • micase
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-21-13
                                        • 157

                                        #1769
                                        Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                        The three point shots are already including in the overall FGAs and FGMs in the box scores. So the game you are looking at has 88 total FGs. 20 O-REB. 27 TO. 49 FTAs. 118 possessions or so.
                                        Cheers, I thought it was something like that, but couldn't seem to manipulate the numbers, thanks a lot. Onward and upward!!
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                                        • steveq
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 11-22-12
                                          • 661

                                          #1770
                                          figures i barely get any totals let alone isolated ones gl u guys
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                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-06-06
                                            • 71662

                                            #1771
                                            [2nd Half] Cleveland State-Youngstown State Under 74 [-110]
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                                            • EaglesPhan36
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-06-06
                                              • 71662

                                              #1772
                                              S.Illinois-Wichita State Over 68.5 [-110]
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 71662

                                                #1773
                                                Damn that Cleveland State game was way too close, but finishes at 73 for the half. There were I think 27 pts in the last 4:00. Sheesh. Miami TT hits! Yay.
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                                                • LowRollin
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-29-12
                                                  • 467

                                                  #1774
                                                  good start
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #1775
                                                    Michigan-Ohio State Under 70 [-110]
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                                                    • EaglesPhan36
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-06-06
                                                      • 71662

                                                      #1776
                                                      Ga.Tech-Florida State Under 69 [-110]
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                                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                        • 71662

                                                        #1777
                                                        Wow. Ridiculous shooting in this Michigan-OSU game. Damn.
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                                                        • tigerw1
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 12-21-12
                                                          • 210

                                                          #1778
                                                          Your formulas don't work and are a 50/50 guess
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                                                          • EaglesPhan36
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-06-06
                                                            • 71662

                                                            #1779
                                                            Thanks for your input and stalking. I'm sorry I can't hit 80 or 90%, apparently that's what you're looking for.
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                                                            • LowRollin
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 02-29-12
                                                              • 467

                                                              #1780
                                                              cashed fsu +2.5 and the 2nd half under with that buzzer beater. soo clutch.
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                                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-06-06
                                                                • 71662

                                                                #1781
                                                                Barely avoided another OT kill job, but the under gets done. 2-2 & the POTD hits today.

                                                                Updated Record: 165-132-7 [+17.67]
                                                                Viking Funeral POTD: 3-4 [-1.28]
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                                                                • EaglesPhan36
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-06-06
                                                                  • 71662

                                                                  #1782
                                                                  2.6.13
                                                                  Viking Funeral POTD: Butler-St.Bonaventure Over 136 [-110]
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                                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                                    • 71662

                                                                    #1783
                                                                    [2nd Half] Dayton-St.Joseph's Under 70.5 [-110]

                                                                    If they post a total, Duquesne-GW over on any number 80 or under.
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                                                                    • PorkChop
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-18-08
                                                                      • 8193

                                                                      #1784
                                                                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                                      [2nd Half] Dayton-St.Joseph's Under 70.5 [-110]

                                                                      If they post a total, Duquesne-GW over on any number 80 or under.

                                                                      74.5 for Duq-GW
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                                                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                                        • 71662

                                                                        #1785
                                                                        Yeah and the life got sucked out of that game. Took it at 74.5. Turnovers and just god awful shooting from Duquesne. For tracking porpoises.

                                                                        Duquesne-GW Over 74.5 [-110]
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