John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

[Wallco99]

Guys, so I didn't buy the 3 points, so i had the lakers at +1. So do I now continue onto the next series play of Lakers vs. New Orleans? Or is the series now over because it assumes that I had bought the +3?

Series is over, unless you are playing the 1-3-5 or Traditional (-110) methods.

[yankeefan1024]

Series is over, unless you are playing the 1-3-5 or Traditional (-110) methods.

Thanks, and sorry for the (probably stupid) question, but what is the 1-3-5 method?

[Wallco99]

Thanks, and sorry for the (probably stupid) question, but what is the 1-3-5 method?

A bet scheme I came up with 2 years ago and played until the 7/5 came around. Post #50 explains it. I am still a big fan of it.

[Wallco99]

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[yankeefan1024]

Well Wallco, JM Disciple suggested NOT buying the 3 points on the traditional system and to follow Chase 110 instead. What's your view on buying the points for overall profitability?

[cambertos]

Well Wallco, JM Disciple suggested NOT buying the 3 points on the traditional system and to follow Chase 110 instead. What's your view on buying the points for overall profitability?

Buy the points & cash the ticket

[Kev the Brit]

Well Wallco, JM Disciple suggested NOT buying the 3 points on the traditional system and to follow Chase 110 instead. What's your view on buying the points for overall profitability?

Firstly, the JM system is not an alternative to Chase 110. You can and should play them both, bankroll permitting. I'll leave Wallco to answer questions about Chase 110 (its his creation).

The John Morrison system, as created and currently published, requires the bettor to buy 3 points, with the exception of a spread bet of -3 or higher, whereupon the bettor plays the ML instead. History has proven (see previous years' JM NBA strings) that playing the system from the A Bet is most profitable when buying the 3 points. However, Wallco and thelimit310 have refined the JM system such that greater profits can be made by adjusting the staking strategy within the same level of overall risk (ie total stakes up to the C Bet). Its your choice how you want to play the JM system. However, you must buy 3 points if you play from the A Bet. My qualication to write this: I have been a daily reader of JM NBA discussions for 3 years (see my profile).

[Wallco99]

Well Wallco, JM Disciple suggested NOT buying the 3 points on the traditional system and to follow Chase 110 instead. What's your view on buying the points for overall profitability?

I at NO TIME made either one of those comments, I play JM so why would I say not to, and where may I ask did I say that. You also asked me where you could find the 1-3-5 description and I told you where it was, and that I PERSONALLY liked it. I never once mentioned not to buy three points if you want to, that was JMD. Please get your facts correct.

[Wallco99]

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2012-13 System to date: 15-0 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +15.00 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0


v1 Plays
(A) 10-5
(B) 3-2
(C) 2-0
(D) 0-0


Games for (12/5/12):
#16 Toronto @ Sacramento (M/L) (A) (10:05 pm EST)


We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.

[Wilba]

I at NO TIME made either one of those comments, I play JM so why would I say not to, and where may I ask did I say that. You also asked me where you could find the 1-3-5 description and I told you where it was, and that I PERSONALLY liked it. I never once mentioned not to buy three points if you want to, that was JMD. Please get your facts correct.

Chill out Wallco! I'm afraid it is you that has misunderstood here. What he was saying in his post was:

"Hey Wallco - JMD told me so and so... So what do you think about that?"

As in he was asking you what you thought of JMD's advice. He wasn't suggesting that you agreed with JMD's advice (or said it yourself) at all.

[Wilba]

Do not buy 3 points. Morrison's system and filters are a bunch of BS trying to cover up losses from previous seasons. It is best to go back and read through the thread. I would apply a 1-3-5 or a 7/5 method to John morrison system which does not require you to buy 3 points or of course a labby. Go back and read post #107 and look for Limit's, steve, and wallco's post when you skim through the thread. All other post are pretty much BS. Should not take too long if you are only reading 3 peoples post.

If the buying 3 points part of the system is a load of BS, then why has the system with buying 3 points (on the traditional 1 unit chase) vastly outperformed the system without buying 3 points over the last decade?

I don't think you should ever tell people what method they should use JMD - all you can do is present facts and let people make their own decisions

[Brundle99]

Do not buy 3 points. Morrison's system and filters are a bunch of BS trying to cover up losses from previous seasons. It is best to go back and read through the thread. I would apply a 1-3-5 or a 7/5 method to John morrison system which does not require you to buy 3 points or of course a labby. Go back and read post #107 and look for Limit's, steve, and wallco's post when you skim through the thread. All other post are pretty much BS. Should not take too long if you are only reading 3 peoples post.

Your talking crap...

Why do you call yourself JMD if your against playing by his rules?.

Don't discredit other people's posts as BS, we're in a JM forum, and people will use a Labby if they want a conservative money management system.

Many Pro bettors use a Labby.

[thelimit0310]

7/5 Plays DEC 4

No Plays

7/5 Plays DEC 5

No Plays

Results:
Bet 1: 5-5
Bet 2: 3-2
Utah 11/2
Portland 11/25

[thelimit0310]

Glad to see you here again Wilba! Welcome!

[yankeefan1024]

Chill out Wallco! I'm afraid it is you that has misunderstood here. What he was saying in his post was:

"Hey Wallco - JMD told me so and so... So what do you think about that?"


As in he was asking you what you thought of JMD's advice. He wasn't suggesting that you agreed with JMD's advice (or said it yourself) at all.

Yes thanks! That's exactly what I meant!

[clamchowder]

Personally, I always buy 2 pts for JM's systems. I find that additional 2 pts is enough. Yes I pay more juice but I would rather take a win than a lost ala Lakers game last night.

[cambertos]

I at NO TIME made either one of those comments, I play JM so why would I say not to, and where may I ask did I say that. You also asked me where you could find the 1-3-5 description and I told you where it was, and that I PERSONALLY liked it. I never once mentioned not to buy three points if you want to, that was JMD. Please get your facts correct.

Worlds biggest over reaction, ever

[J.M. Disciple]

Your talking crap...

Why do you call yourself JMD if your against playing by his rules?.

Don't discredit other people's posts as BS, we're in a JM forum, and people will use a Labby if they want a conservative money management system.

Many Pro bettors use a Labby.

LOL you people are hilarious. I did not talk crap in any way in my post. If you knew me at all you would know I am a big fan of the labby and use it myself.

As for buying 3 points I suggested against it because 1-3-5 and 7/5 have both out performed JM tradtional method. Sure if you want to lay down 20-26 units a series to win 1 unit and profit 34 units a season on average that is up to you. I personal would rather play 1-3-5 or 7/5 and profit around 80 units a season on average. Also I suggested only reading Wallco, steve, and Limits post because of people like you that come in here and try to criticize and have no idea what they are talking about. Go back to your troll shed.

[J.M. Disciple]

If the buying 3 points part of the system is a load of BS, then why has the system with buying 3 points (on the traditional 1 unit chase) vastly outperformed the system without buying 3 points over the last decade?

I don't think you should ever tell people what method they should use JMD - all you can do is present facts and let people make their own decisions

So many people misread what I wrote. I did not tell anyone to not play John Morrison system with out buying 3 points. Simple suggestion of playing 1-3-5 or 7/5.

Here some simple facts:
Tradtional method: 34 units a season
not buying 3 points: no idea, but probably break even....
7/5: 80 units a season on average
1-3-5 little less then 7/5 but still a good return on investment.

There are your facts people stop getting so but hurt about it. Unless I specifically say only play John morrison system betting to win 1 unit with out buying points, then dont put those words in my mouth.

[J.M. Disciple]

Chill out Wallco! I'm afraid it is you that has misunderstood here. What he was saying in his post was:

"Hey Wallco - JMD told me so and so... So what do you think about that?"

As in he was asking you what you thought of JMD's advice. He wasn't suggesting that you agreed with JMD's advice (or said it yourself) at all.

I did not tell him so and so... People misread what someone wrote, then get a bunch of princesses defending them.

If a question was not directed towards you or your name was not mentioned in it then stay out of it.

[COYLO]

lad's its gonna get to the stage where no one post's in here and we all loose out. CHILL THE penetrate OUT!!!!

play the game the way you want too and nevermind what the next guy is doing. rant over

[COYLO]

penetrate i meant to say fcuk

[touch04]

7/5 Plays DEC 4

No Plays

7/5 Plays DEC 5

No Plays

Results:
Bet 1: 5-5
Bet 2: 3-2
Utah 11/2
Portland 11/25

The limit, isn't lakers a play today as they lost by 2 PTs yesterday and they were +1?

[yankeefan1024]

The limit, isn't lakers a play today as they lost by 2 PTs yesterday and they were +1?

Touch04,

I believe they are a play, however, the limit is doing the 7/5 system, and Stevex would be the one doing the traditional JM system, which has the lakers play

[cambertos]

Touch04,

I believe they are a play, however, the limit is doing the 7/5 system, and Stevex would be the one doing the traditional JM system, which has the lakers play

Bro go and read the posts, your questions are annoying the shit out of me

[Brundle99]

LOL you people are hilarious. I did not talk crap in any way in my post. If you knew me at all you would know I am a big fan of the labby and use it myself.

As for buying 3 points I suggested against it because 1-3-5 and 7/5 have both out performed JM tradtional method. Sure if you want to lay down 20-26 units a series to win 1 unit and profit 34 units a season on average that is up to you. I personal would rather play 1-3-5 or 7/5 and profit around 80 units a season on average. Also I suggested only reading Wallco, steve, and Limits post because of people like you that come in here and try to criticize and have no idea what they are talking about. Go back to your troll shed.

First of all, I have no interest in getting to know you.

Secondly, with a Labby you can carry any series loss over to the next series, or even split losses into two lines if you wish.

Not a big risk really, hence it's reputation as a conservative betting system.

You suggested reading only their posts but called other peoples BS, your own posts aren't anything to write home about.

I've been following these JM forums posts for years, I know what I'm talking about, I've made a very good profit in the last 3 years.

Speak for yourself Troll.

Jog on.

[touch04]

Bro go and read the posts, your questions are annoying the shit out of me

Settle petal! Ok so I misunderstood that the a game has to lose by 3.5 PTs for optimal 7/5 play!
Got it, thanks for your help "poofterlips"!

[yankeefan1024]

Is Stevex going to be posting JM traditional plays tonight, and yes I know the schedule is available to download in an earlier post, I was just wondering

[J.M. Disciple]

First of all, I have no interest in getting to know you.

Secondly, with a Labby you can carry any series loss over to the next series, or even split losses into two lines if you wish.

Not a big risk really, hence it's reputation as a conservative betting system.

You suggested reading only their posts but called other peoples BS, your own posts aren't anything to write home about.

I've been following these JM forums posts for years, I know what I'm talking about, I've made a very good profit in the last 3 years.

Speak for yourself Troll.

Jog on.

LOL at you trying to teach me about the labby. If someone is looking for answers on what 1-3-5, 7/5/ or the john morrison system is why would they bother to read your BS post? Its a complete waste of their time. They can refer to the particular post #s that have all the rules and strategy written out, which I am sure you did not write. That is why I refer to wallco's, Steve's, and Limit's post.

[mcmister]

redundant answer My Bad

[Wallco99]

Chill out Wallco! I'm afraid it is you that has misunderstood here. What he was saying in his post was:

"Hey Wallco - JMD told me so and so... So what do you think about that?"

As in he was asking you what you thought of JMD's advice. He wasn't suggesting that you agreed with JMD's advice (or said it yourself) at all.

Ohhshit! You are right. I really read that one wrong, it was early, I thought it said Wallco and JMD. I am very sorry Yankeefan for not reading that more clearly.

[cambertos]

Settle petal! Ok so I misunderstood that the a game has to lose by 3.5 PTs for optimal 7/5 play!
Got it, thanks for your help "poofterlips"!

You got it! meet me and proove it douuuuche

[yankeefan1024]

Ohhshit! You are right. I really read that one wrong, it was early, I thought it said Wallco and JMD. I am very sorry Yankeefan for not reading that more clearly.

Wallco, it's okay. But instead of an apology, can you help me out with this, I just want to make sure I understand the system correctly!

1) Tonight in the chase -110 system, we are betting MONEYLINE on SAC because they are favorites?

2) According to the rules of the JM traditional system without buying points, are these the correct plays tonight?

Lakers (B)
Golden State (A)
Denver (A)
NY Knicks (A)
Dallas (A)


THANKS for your help!

[Brundle99]

LOL at you trying to teach me about the labby. If someone is looking for answers on what 1-3-5, 7/5/ or the john morrison system is why would they bother to read your BS post? Its a complete waste of their time. They can refer to the particular post #s that have all the rules and strategy written out, which I am sure you did not write. That is why I refer to wallco's, Steve's, and Limit's post.

He only asked about the JM System, not your opinion.

Your missing the point, It's Yankeefan's first time betting the JM System and straight away you criticise the very system he wants to use.

Yankeefan never asked you about any other system, but you were quick to trash the one he was enquiring about.

As for BS posts, your sure are creating them yourself.

[stevex]

Post the official plays in a few minutes fellas..