Utah -2 vs Dallas opening line.

br33ze · 01-19-12, 02:55 AM

Trizzy trap of the day

br33ze · 01-19-12, 02:57 AM

Probably safer with the Under here.

Mikail · 01-19-12, 02:57 AM

Reminiscent of the OKC/Celtics line the other day except the Jazz are the home team and OKC wasn't. Once again you gotta ride the winning team at the moment. Jazz -2

SaffaCappa · 01-19-12, 03:34 AM

I think it should be closer to Jazz -5! Jazz have the ability to pump the Mavs who are in a tough spot, 3rd game of a 4 game road trip and a b2b

hawley · 01-19-12, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by SaffaCappa

I think it should be closer to Jazz -5! Jazz have the ability to pump the Mavs who are in a tough spot, 3rd game of a 4 game road trip and a b2b

Jazz -5 would make Dallas around -2 at home which is too short.

Line is about right but will not close at -2. I will be on the Jazz.

Sport_Fish · 01-19-12, 03:43 AM

Afraid Utah is going to be 'too square'

monologue · 01-19-12, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Sport_Fish

Afraid Utah is going to be 'too square'

I feel like BW would come and say...

Uta is Very Square

Mavericks+2.5

Mikail · 01-19-12, 03:48 AM

Originally posted by Sport_Fish

Afraid Utah is going to be 'too square'

Like the Thunder when they spanked the Celtics in Boston the other night?

hawley · 01-19-12, 03:58 AM

Utah are playing good ball, at home against a pretty old Mavericks team playing b2b.

I'll take my chances this is a trap and roll with Utah

Gudis · 01-19-12, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by monologue

I feel like BW would come and say...

Uta is Very Square

Mavericks+2.5

Metagaming going on in this thread. I'm suspicious of this one being a trap game as well. Gonna wait till tomorrow and follow the line movement and # of bets for UTA.

Mikail · 01-19-12, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by hawley

Utah are playing good ball, at home against a pretty old Mavericks team playing b2b. I'll take my chances this is a trap and roll with Utah

Agreed!

PR9 · 01-19-12, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by Gudis

Metagaming going on in this thread. I'm suspicious of this one being a trap game as well. Gonna wait till tomorrow and follow the line movement and # of bets for UTA.

don't waste your time. If BW doesn't post tomorrow then go Utah. If he posts dallas +2.5 (or whatever Dallas + the line is), then we know what to do.

plain and simple.

Ever heard of he "KISS method" ? The guy does this in his sleep. What's amazing is this is so easy for him. I know that by now.

It always comes very easy for the true geniuses.

hawley · 01-19-12, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by PR9

don't waste your time. If BW doesn't post tomorrow then go Utah. If he posts dallas +2.5 (or whatever Dallas + the line is), then we know what to do.

plain and simple.

Ever heard of he "KISS method" ? The guy does this in his sleep. What's amazing is this is so easy for him. I know that by now.

It always comes very easy for the true geniuses.

what if dad is on Utah?

shark2434 · 01-19-12, 04:53 AM

Mavs had a tough game with clippers and lost, Vince carter is injured, Utah strong at home, will go for Utah - *whatever points* for sure

PR9 · 01-19-12, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by hawley

what if dad is on Utah?

Aside from yesterday he doesn't bet short favorites all that much. His picks generally are medium to heavy favorites. He'll likely be on either miami or houston tomorrow I'm guessing

If by some chance there's a clash between BW and DAD, I'd have to go with BW just going by BW's track record last year and in the past vs Dad's. I think BW is a much more seasoned pro and sharp (not taking anything away from DAD as he has been astounding as well - I've never been on a run like that).

Moreover, imo it's a lot harder to do what BW has been doing. Lately a lot more favorites have been covering compared to underdogs covering, and despite all odds BW has been drilling underdogs like nobody's business.

One is a favorites bettor, the other is an underdog bettor. It takes more capping ability to nail underdogs the way BW is doing imo.

suicidekings · 01-19-12, 05:20 AM

On the road, Dallas is 2-5 SU, but 4-3 ATS, and 10-5 ATS overall. Of those five road losses, three of them were decided by a 3 point shot in the final seconds of the game (89-91 @LAC, 70-73 @LAL, 102-104 @OKC) and they were dogs in two of these games. This Mavs team is actually a very good road team, that's had some heartbreaking losses at the buzzer. They're a better team than the Jazz, overall, and under normal circumstances (not on a B2B), the Mavs should probably be a small fave in this game of -1 or so. So when you factor in playing the second half of the B2B at elevation, Jazz -2 seems like a pretty fair line for this game. By that, I mean if this game was played 100 times, the teams would be comparable at this number.

In a one-off situation though, it's hard not to like the Jazz at this number to take advantage of the Mavs. Jefferson/Millsap/Favors are relentless inside, and given how hard the Mavs had to work tonight, maintaining energy for 48 minutes is a tall order to repeat.

PR9 · 01-19-12, 06:04 AM

Originally posted by PR9

Aside from yesterday he doesn't bet short favorites all that much. His picks generally are medium to heavy favorites. He'll likely be on either miami or houston tomorrow I'm guessing

If by some chance there's a clash between BW and DAD, I'd have to go with BW just going by BW's track record last year and in the past vs Dad's. I think BW is a much more seasoned pro and sharp (not taking anything away from DAD as he has been astounding as well - I've never been on a run like that).

Moreover, imo it's a lot harder to do what BW has been doing. Lately a lot more favorites have been covering compared to underdogs covering, and despite all odds BW has been drilling underdogs like nobody's business.

One is a favorites bettor, the other is an underdog bettor. It takes more capping ability to nail underdogs the way BW is doing imo.

To add to that. I didn't mean to say that BW can't cap favorites. I'm pretty certain that if we were to see his nightly card, we would be in total shock at his success rate (not that we're not totally amazed as it is). Guaranteed, BW is raping books.

Now I can't speak for him, but I think BW receives enjoyment in posting his underdog plays and watching how easy they're hitting on almost a nightly basis. What i mean by that is, you don't see people calling out DAD for his picks calling him "stupid", or saying things like "that's the stupidest sports bet in the history of sports betting", etc etc. BW receives a lot of vitriol from people on this board, DAD doesn't, because DAD's picks aren't nearly as shocking..

I believe BW gets a lot of satisfaction from shutting people up with his genius. I really do. He enjoys the "shock value". And that's why he doesn't reveal all (or even half or even a quarter) of his plays. Just the ones that nobody believes can come through

Speedy88 · 01-19-12, 06:28 AM

If both Dad and BW are on the same team tomorrow, I'll probably tail them with a 10 unit wager (which would be my biggest of the year).

Gudis · 01-19-12, 06:35 AM

Is there any official / unofficial record for BW- either this year or last? Sorry if its a dumb question, I'm new to this place.

And ya PR9 your probably right about waiting to hear from BW before placing any bets on DAL@UTA - I know I will.

Gudis · 01-19-12, 06:36 AM

Amen brother

Edit: Meant to quote Speedy88 above me.

PR9 · 01-19-12, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by Speedy88

If both Dad and BW are on the same team tomorrow, I'll probably tail them with a 10 unit wager (which would be my biggest of the year).

You're your own person. but that might be the worst thing you can do. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

- here's something i found elsewhere.

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B1AZE · 01-19-12, 08:28 AM

Jazz wont be too square because people will bet Dallas and the points.

no doubt about it.

B1AZE · 01-19-12, 08:52 AM

I locked in Jazz yesterday.

Wish Dallas would have won....would have felt alot better had they pulled that off.

Losing two straight buzzer beaters must suck though.

cleaveland · 01-19-12, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by PR9

Guaranteed, BW is raping books.

The books take the bets consensually. You can't rape the willing. I'm sorry but I can't stand seeing that word used incorrectly.

CHAZ · 01-19-12, 10:18 AM

Old Dallas team on a B2B in UTAH. 3rd game in 4 days.

Utah has been playing great on a days rest at home.

Even though I do think the Jazz are a tad overrated because of the ease of there schedule. I still dont see those old Dallas legs having any interest tonight.

CHAZ · 01-19-12, 10:22 AM

Thinking maybe UNDER also

mbs4 · 01-19-12, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by CHAZ

Old Dallas team on a B2B in UTAH. 3rd game in 4 days.

Utah has been playing great on a days rest at home.

Even though I do think the Jazz are a tad overrated because of the ease of there schedule. I still dont see those old Dallas legs having any interest tonight.

Jazz have fifth highest strength of schedule.

CHAZ · 01-19-12, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by mbs4

Jazz have fifth highest strength of schedule.

I still think they are overrated. 8 of the 13 games have been at home and have been fortunate to play teams coming off of back to backs. Plus, playing in Utah only increases the advantage. Maybe they aren't we will see, but right now I think they are.

manutd19 · 01-19-12, 12:16 PM

Lets see what Dad & BW takes are on this game

vasilli07 · 01-19-12, 11:07 PM

Hi all, can I know who is DAD?

Thanks.

migz · 01-19-12, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by vasilli07

Hi all, can I know who is DAD?

Thanks.

Whos your daddy?

CHAZ · 01-20-12, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by CHAZ

I still think they are overrated. 8 of the 13 games have been at home and have been fortunate to play teams coming off of back to backs. Plus, playing in Utah only increases the advantage. Maybe they aren't we will see, but right now I think they are.

Jazz are definitely over rated right now. Make a mental note next time this situation comes up