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  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #1
    Are you guys taking Boston because you think it's the "sharp" thing to do?
    I see this a lot on this forum. People go big on a side just because they think the other side is a trap. So since the Thunder have the best record in the NBA and Boston is 4-7 looking like shit, Boston must be the play because the line is so low???

    I would like some Boston backers to chime in here. Why are you taking Boston? Do you guys have any other reason than "the line is telling me to"?

    Personally, I'm not betting on the game because I'm a huge Thunder fan. I don't like betting on teams I'm a fan of because of bias. With that said, I don't see how anyone could back Boston here. I know the line is fishy, etc but give me a good reason to take the Celtics besides the line.

    If the Thunder win, I don't want to hear crap like, "Well, the squares won again". Is it really square if the an 11-2 team covers three against an old team that is 4-7 and struggling?
  • darkenergy
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-09
    • 4013

    #2
    I won't backing Boston until they show some sight of live.
    I remember last couple of games, they scored like under 30 pts for 1H. Teams play like that backing them =
    In fact, I might take Okie 1H for 1x or something.
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    • BigDofBA
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-30-09
      • 19313

      #3
      Originally posted by darkenergy
      I won't backing Boston until they show some sight of live. I remember last couple of games, they scored like under 30 pts for 1H. Teams play like that backing them = In fact, I might take Okie 1H for 1x or something.
      Boston has burned me a few times as well. I actually really like their team but it seems like father time has finally caught up to them. I don't think the shortened season helps either.
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      • chevy6
        SBR Sharp
        • 04-06-11
        • 476

        #4
        people on this forum told me that the wizards was the sharp side today and look what happened...they lost by more than 5. I told myself that i would fade them like i have been but noooo i listened to yall lol. Look i got okc today i dont care about sharp or public no more i just go with the better team and thats why im going with okc
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        • BigDofBA
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-30-09
          • 19313

          #5
          Originally posted by chevy6
          people on this forum told me that the wizards was the sharp side today and look what happened...they lost by more than 5. I told myself that i would fade them like i have been but noooo i listened to yall lol. Look i got okc today i dont care about sharp or public no more i just go with the better team and thats why im going with okc
          Nothing is ever a sure thing in gambling, however, don't you always feel like an idiot when the team that is obviously better is only like -2 or -3, you side with this forum and take the dog and the the good team wins by like 15?

          If you don't have a good feeling about this game don't play it. I wouldn't take Boston just because you think it's a trap. If you think it's a trap, just lay off.

          I keep seeing people say Boston is the play because everyone is on OKC. In reality, I've only seen like two people in this forum on OKC tonight and everyone else is on Boston. What does that tell you?
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          • Speedy88
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-19-11
            • 11717

            #6
            I'm leaning Boston over OKC because I trust the bookies who set these lines more than most the 80% of the people who are on OKC.
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            • BigDofBA
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-30-09
              • 19313

              #7
              Originally posted by Speedy88
              I'm leaning Boston over OKC because I trust the bookies who set these lines more than most the 80% of the people who are on OKC.
              At least your honest. So in other words, you're putting your money on a team just because you think the line is weird?

              Do you ever think Vegas does this intentionally to get people like you on a certain side?

              I think the line is about right honestly. I don't think Vegas is trying to fool anyone. The Celtics will always get a lot of bets, especially when they are a home dog.
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              • jmathes
                SBR MVP
                • 02-19-09
                • 2385

                #8
                I think Boston might be the play here. Just look at the line of Chicago game earlier today and this is almost exactly the same situation here. Chicago was 12-2 and facing a sub 500 team and was a 2 point spread. The Bulls lost that game by 16 points. Oklahoma City is 11-2 and facing a very old and defeated team. I think the Celtics show up in front of a big primetime TNT game representing on MLK day.
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                • BigDofBA
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-30-09
                  • 19313

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jmathes
                  I think Boston might be the play here. Just look at the line of Chicago game earlier today and this is almost exactly the same situation here. Chicago was 12-2 and facing a sub 500 team and was a 2 point spread. The Bulls lost that game by 16 points. Oklahoma City is 11-2 and facing a very old and defeated team. I think the Celtics show up in front of a big primetime TNT game representing on MLK day.
                  Actually is nothing like that game. The Bulls were missing their best player.

                  This game is more like the Chicago/Boston game Friday. Boston was a slight home dog to the Bulls and got blown out after everyone was saying the Celtics were the play and the Bulls were a trap.
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                  • paco
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 05-07-09
                    • 62873

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Speedy88
                    I'm leaning Boston over OKC because I trust the bookies who set these lines more than most the 80% of the people who are on OKC.
                    80% + were on Philly and Port also today
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                    • squid44
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-13-10
                      • 353

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigDofBA

                      Actually is nothing like that game. The Bulls were missing their best player.

                      This game is more like the Chicago/Boston game Friday. Boston was a slight home dog to the Bulls and got blown out after everyone was saying the Celtics were the play and the Bulls were a trap.

                      I'll have to agree here. It is nothing like that game.. but with that being said, I still think it is going to be a good game, and a close one at that. Perhaps a Thunder win but a Celtics cover? BOL to all.
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                      • UNCGQ
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-08-09
                        • 993

                        #12
                        I took OKC because I thought it was the side that would pay
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                        • Speedy88
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-19-11
                          • 11717

                          #13
                          Originally posted by paco

                          80% + were on Philly and Port also today
                          If OKC covers, which it looks like they will (BOSTON LOOKS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE), the books will have gotten killed today.
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                          • robinhood
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-12-09
                            • 916

                            #14
                            I'm on Boston because I think it will be the old Hollywood formula. Old guys get it together for one last time and beat the young guys. Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnet high-five and chest bump and dentures will fall.
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                            • Reedeman
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 01-15-12
                              • 232

                              #15
                              Boston hasnt gotten into gear yet this season, and they're going up against the thunder, who had a break yesterday. Thunder all the way. Boston will come around, but i wouldnt take em for another ten games at least
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                              • Legero
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 01-11-12
                                • 57

                                #16
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                                [COLOR=#000000 !important]I'm on Boston because I think it will be the old Hollywood formula. Old guys get it together for one last time and beat the young guys. Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnet high-five and chest bump and dentures will fall.[/COLOR]
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                                [COLOR=#000000 !important]I almost died when I read this lol![/COLOR]
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                                • BettingWizard
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-28-09
                                  • 6522

                                  #17
                                  memphis was the only sharp play today
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                                  • YOUSENKO
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 07-25-11
                                    • 220

                                    #18
                                    Memphis wasn't like this game where it could be 50 50 in bets. Can't say the same about everyone betting chicago.
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                                    • suicidekings
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-23-09
                                      • 9962

                                      #19
                                      Through the first half, we're seeing a feeble 34% shooting from Boston, the Thunder bigs dominating the Celtic bigs, the Thunder D is disrupting the Celtics pick&roll nicely, and Westbrook/Durant getting good penetration and getting to the FT line (a combined 10/10 at the line). Pretty much as expected.
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                                      • Love The Action
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-08-10
                                        • 10952

                                        #20
                                        I have been laughing pretty hard over the last week with all the silly talk around this forum about "trap"lines, "fish lines" and "sharp" plays as if these guys are the first ones to think of these concepts. I mean, this stuff has been around the industry for 30 years now.

                                        At best, blindly following RLM and betting against "trap" lines is nothing better than a 50/50 proposition. If you don't use those factors in conjunction with quantitative and qualitative analysis, you are doomed for failure.

                                        Take today for example, we had a bunch of posters talking up Memphis, Charlotte, Wizards and Bucks because of either RLM or "fishy" lines. Out of all those "sharp" plays, only Memphis cashed and that was because Rose was announced only a few minutes before tip.

                                        If anyone thinks they are going to make money blindly betting into these "sharp" plays, they are doomed for failure.
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                                        • paco
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-07-09
                                          • 62873

                                          #21
                                          Thunder (Harden) missed so many opportunities to blow this game to 13-14 points. Brick after brick.
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #22
                                            Sharp plays only exist after the fact. Period.

                                            Sharp plays = winning plays, and unless you have inside information, you don't have a winning ticket before the game starts. Ever.
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                                            • No coincidences
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-18-10
                                              • 76300

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Love The Action
                                              I have been laughing pretty hard over the last week with all the silly talk around this forum about "trap"lines, "fish lines" and "sharp" plays as if these guys are the first ones to think of these concepts. I mean, this stuff has been around the industry for 30 years now.
                                              With the Internet and all the information available to everyone these days, it's less relevant than ever.
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                                              • ksnooksk
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-18-11
                                                • 2890

                                                #24
                                                Game is going to be real, real close.
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                                                • BettingWizard
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-28-09
                                                  • 6522

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                  I have been laughing pretty hard over the last week with all the silly talk around this forum about "trap"lines, "fish lines" and "sharp" plays as if these guys are the first ones to think of these concepts. I mean, this stuff has been around the industry for 30 years now.

                                                  At best, blindly following RLM and betting against "trap" lines is nothing better than a 50/50 proposition. If you don't use those factors in conjunction with quantitative and qualitative analysis, you are doomed for failure.

                                                  Take today for example, we had a bunch of posters talking up Memphis, Charlotte, Wizards and Bucks because of either RLM or "fishy" lines. Out of all those "sharp" plays, only Memphis cashed and that was because Rose was announced only a few minutes before tip.

                                                  If anyone thinks they are going to make money blindly betting into these "sharp" plays, they are doomed for failure.
                                                  Bulls were still favored without Rose

                                                  The sharp ones pick the one that they know will cash out of the group that you just said
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                                                  • No coincidences
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                    • 76300

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by BettingWizard
                                                    Bulls were still favored without Rose

                                                    The sharp ones pick the one that they know will cash out of the group that you just said
                                                    Nice call on the "one or the other ML" Sunday BTW.

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                                                    • Andrewsurf
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 09-23-08
                                                      • 219

                                                      #27
                                                      MLK Jr Day bias for the Celtics or whatever. This line was always way too low. Don't bet against OKC, fade Boston.
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                                                      • sjm5122
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-22-08
                                                        • 4213

                                                        #28
                                                        Fishy as hell here, watch them **** my under 186.5
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                                                        • dynamite140
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-05-08
                                                          • 4958

                                                          #29
                                                          Ask No Coin
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                                                          • BigDofBA
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-30-09
                                                            • 19313

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                            If the Thunder win, I don't want to hear crap like, "Well, the squares won again". Is it really square if the an 11-2 team covers three against an old team that is 4-7 and struggling?
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                                                            • dynamite140
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-05-08
                                                              • 4958

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                              CanuckG and No Coincidences you mean?
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                                                              • YOUSENKO
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 07-25-11
                                                                • 220

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                I have been laughing pretty hard over the last week with all the silly talk around this forum about "trap"lines, "fish lines" and "sharp" plays as if these guys are the first ones to think of these concepts. I mean, this stuff has been around the industry for 30 years now.

                                                                At best, blindly following RLM and betting against "trap" lines is nothing better than a 50/50 proposition. If you don't use those factors in conjunction with quantitative and qualitative analysis, you are doomed for failure.

                                                                Take today for example, we had a bunch of posters talking up Memphis, Charlotte, Wizards and Bucks because of either RLM or "fishy" lines. Out of all those "sharp" plays, only Memphis cashed and that was because Rose was announced only a few minutes before tip.

                                                                If anyone thinks they are going to make money blindly betting into these "sharp" plays, they are doomed for failure.

                                                                Sharp play exists. Only for the privileged 2% of the players that earned from betting. Those games u mentioned could be 60:40 or 65:35 of money in the boat because of that they are able to use sharp lines to hedge. The book will leave those games alone. However the books will definitely destroy those 80:20 90:10 heavy boats without even needing sharp lines, in fact the result is far from the line. You can observe from your years of betting. Not a coincidence even ML bets are destroyed.

                                                                Based on your logic of 50 50 for everything then don't even bet because u'll lose in the long run. 98% do.
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                                                                • spippen
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-17-09
                                                                  • 3874

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                  I have been laughing pretty hard over the last week with all the silly talk around this forum about "trap"lines, "fish lines" and "sharp" plays as if these guys are the first ones to think of these concepts. I mean, this stuff has been around the industry for 30 years now.

                                                                  At best, blindly following RLM and betting against "trap" lines is nothing better than a 50/50 proposition. If you don't use those factors in conjunction with quantitative and qualitative analysis, you are doomed for failure.

                                                                  Take today for example, we had a bunch of posters talking up Memphis, Charlotte, Wizards and Bucks because of either RLM or "fishy" lines. Out of all those "sharp" plays, only Memphis cashed and that was because Rose was announced only a few minutes before tip.

                                                                  If anyone thinks they are going to make money blindly betting into these "sharp" plays, they are doomed for failure.

                                                                  Bravo! Maybe some people will actually learn something with your post. Betting a team that is not playing well lately against a team that is playing well lately is more than not a losing bet, regardless of any silly RLM or "trap" line.
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                                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                                    • 19313

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by dynamite140
                                                                    CanuckG and No Coincidences you mean?
                                                                    No. No Coin had Boston +3.5. He beat the closing number.

                                                                    To me the line wasn't a trap, it was where it should have been. OKC drained four straight threes down the stretch. Wasn't it about a 4 point game with a minute to go?

                                                                    If you beat the closer, it usually helps more than it hurts over time. With that said, I felt pretty good about OKC winning here.

                                                                    The whole point of this thread was to see the reasons people had for taking Boston. No one gave me a good reason other than it was a "trap".
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                                                                    • Legero
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 01-11-12
                                                                      • 57

                                                                      #35
                                                                      That was some clutch shooting down the stretch. I had Boston on the spread, and i would gladly take it again. There is just nothing you could do about those 3's at the end, AMAZING...
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