gsw vs. det

[Speedy88]

Reasons? I'm still learning this RLM stuff?

I liked it when this game had RLM, now it is just sitting at Det -4.5. Probably a no play now for me, probably going to just focus on the football today and look ahead to a big card tomorrow. Probably will end up playing Denver -10.5.

[PR9]

This is a "sandwich" home game for Detroit... meaning, they had a day off before the game AND have a day off the next day after gameday.


The last time Detroit had a sandwich home game this season against a b2b team, they beat Orlando by 11

[Speedy88]

Hopefully no one snagged the line last night at -5.5.

[Speedy88]

This is a "sandwich" home game for Detroit... meaning, they had a day off before the game AND have a day off the next day after gameday. The last time Detroit had a sandwich home game this season against a b2b team, they beat Orlando by 11

Ok you got me sold, i'll back Detroit tonight. I like the sandwich theory, and close to 70% on GS yet line hasn't moved, so that has to mean something as well. Detroit has played real well their past couple games.

[rapidfire5]

Ok you got me sold, i'll back Detroit tonight. I like the sandwich theory, and close to 70% on GS yet line hasn't moved, so that has to mean something as well. Detroit has played real well their past couple games.

Sorry not trying to be a buzzkill, but how can you trust this "sandwich theory". It happened once last season. It's not like an overwhelming stat that says Pistons are 10-3 in these situation. Trusting a theory that is 1/1 doesn't really mean much.

[PR9]

I also grabbed the over for this one. I know Mark Jackson is trying to instill some D but GS has gone over in 4 of their last 5 games. And their D is even worse without Kwame Brown as he is out 3 months after getting hurt in the Miami game. Say what you want about Brown, but he is a very good interior defensive presence down low. The man can really play defense down there and do all the little things on that end of the court.

Dwight Howard had his first 40-20 career game without Brown in there, and against the total garbage Golden State has down low without Brown in the lineup.

GS just signed a scrap heap big man yesterday because they're so desperate down low without Kwame Brown in there holding the fort on defense.

GS is big trouble defensively without their anchor down low without Brown

[ksnooksk]

I think the over is the better play. The total looks sharp.

[Love The Action]

I also grabbed the over for this one. I know Mark Jackson is trying to instill some D but GS has gone over in 4 of their last 5 games. And their D is even worse without Kwame Brown as he is out 3 months after getting hurt in the Miami game. Say what you want about Brown, but he is a very good interior defensive presence down low. The man can really play defense down there and do all the little things on that end of the court.

Dwight Howard had his first 40-20 career game without Brown in there, and against the total garbage Golden State has down low without Brown in the lineup.

GS just signed a scrap heap big man yesterday because they're so desperate down low without Kwame Brown in there holding the fort on defense.

GS is big trouble defensively without their anchor down low without Brown

Well, to be fair, Howard only scored 40 because of the hack-a-Howard strategy which saw him break the record for free throws in a game with 39. Missing Brown had little to do with those particular 40 points....

I wonder if missing Brown matters in this game where Detroit doesn't have any presence in the middle, much less a guy like Howard? It's not like Detroit is going to be hammering it down low as they are more of jump shooting team...and a bad one at that.

Both defenses are brutal for sure, but neither offense is very efficient and Detroit plays one of the slowest paces in the league.

If you got the over in the 184-185 range at open, that's not a bad play. However, anything over the key number of 187 is not +ev in my opinion.

[chantrain]

I think this one is easy. Pistons suck and Warriors can be kinda good. I'm counting on Monta and Lee dominating. GS +4.5

[PR9]

Well, to be fair, Howard only scored 40 because of the hack-a-Howard strategy which saw him break the record for free throws in a game with 39. Missing Brown had little to do with those particular 40 points....

I wonder if missing Brown matters in this game where Detroit doesn't have any presence in the middle, much less a guy like Howard? It's not like Detroit is going to be hammering it down low

It's not about having a big man that can take advantage, it;s about not having an interior presence allowing players to drive to the basket At Will... and score inside... like Charlotte did last night with impunity. Kemba Walker in his first start had 20+ pts and their backcourt scored about 70.. And of course, combined their back court was "over" 50% shooting - and that's because they were able to get to the paint and closer to the basket without any defensive interior presence. Now they did hit some 3's, but that was because they were getting inside so easily and GS had no choice but to collapse their defense, and as a result they were WIDE open outside

No Kwame places GS in a big conundrum. Having your defensive anchor down low out and missing, is not just about that one position, but changes other areas of the team defensively, it has a ripple down effect.. and it's a negative one (especially when it stems from that vital position)

And, they had no choice but to hack Howard as they had no answers inside. It was the only way they could have slowed him down. Without the hack strategy Howard would have went off for more. Say what you want about Kwame, but that man can play SUPERIOR defense in the interior compared to the trash GS sent out there on the court that night. Howard would not have seen those stats with Kwame in there healthy for that game

The fact that they set an NBA record for getting a guy to the foul line only proves my point even further.
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[JohnAnthony]

It's amazing how far people can go with rationalizing their moves.

[Speedy88]

It's amazing how far people can go with rationalizing their moves.

Oh hello Liv Tyler....

[sportfan]

What does it mean?

[celticsboy]

lets go pistons

[Love The Action]

It's not about having a big man that can take advantage, it;s about not having an interior presence allowing players to drive to the basket At Will... and score inside... like Charlotte did last night with impunity. Kemba Walker in his first start had 20+ pts and their backcourt scored about 70.. And of course, combined their back court was "over" 50% shooting - and that's because they were able to get to the paint and closer to the basket without any defensive interior presence. Now they did hit some 3's, but that was because they were getting inside so easily and GS had no choice but to collapse their defense, and as a result they were WIDE open outside

No Kwame places GS in a big conundrum. Having your defensive anchor down low out and missing, is not just about that one position, but changes other areas of the team defensively, it has a ripple down effect.. and it's a negative one (especially when it stems from that vital position)

And, they had no choice but to hack Howard as they had no answers inside. It was the only way they could have slowed him down. Without the hack strategy Howard would have went off for more. Say what you want about Kwame, but that man can play SUPERIOR defense in the interior compared to the trash GS sent out there on the court that night. Howard would not have seen those stats with Kwame in there healthy for that game

The fact that they set an NBA record for getting a guy to the foul line only proves my point even further.
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While I agree Brown is a solid defensive player, my point is that the impact of his loss will not be felt like in the Orlando game which you referenced. In that game, you stated that Howard had 40 points, but you failed to mention that he scored 21 of those points off free throws. Golden State will not need to foul anyone on Detroit like that, because Detroit is not a force in the paint. They are a bad jump shot shooting team. Consequently, because Detroit does not force the ball into the paint, the loss of Kwame to GS's defense will not be felt as much as it was in the Orlando game.

[Love The Action]

Late steam on Detroit....good luck to those on this game.

[lunchbawks]

what a dumbass bet. i can't believe i took detroit to win by 5.. they wont even win the game

[Speedy88]

what a dumbass bet. i can't believe i took detroit to win by 5.. they wont even win the game

Dude it is a 3 point game with 3 mins left in the 3rd quarter. Game is far from over. And this is the NBA, anything can happen.

[celticsboy]

lets go pistonsu can do it

[Love The Action]

Dude it is a 3 point game with 3 mins left in the 3rd quarter. Game is far from over. And this is the NBA, anything can happen.

Agreed 100%. Good luck, I hope you cash

[celticsboy]

pistons need to learn how to score. fukin nba players cant put the ball in the rim wth

[pacocn]

Lta, you made some great points about Howard,
that would be the only player that Jackson
would instill the hack-a-howard.

[kidcudi92]

[ksnooksk]

I quit betting on bad teams in what look like great spots...RLM on them or not. Just cant trust them.

BOL

[lunchbawks]

EVERY fkking time i go against golden state they win, i hate how unpredictable they are

[celticsboy]

i will never put my money on this shitty team again.

[migz]

why did i take the pistons

[celticsboy]

only way pistons cover is to go to OT and blows them out. I hope its one of thoses nba game!

[PR9]

ack goofed on this one. I didn't know that both bynum and wilkins (as well as nueva) were out for this game. wilkins had a family matter and bynum injured in last game vs charlotte. Both are sparks off their bench.

We'll get em tomorrow. A very nice card to work with !

[PR9]

Well at least my over 186 hit negating the side loss

[ksnooksk]

I think the over is the better play. The total looks sharp.

@ that garbage 3 at the end.

[bleek88]

seems like everyone got pwnd on this thread

[chantrain]

I think this one is easy. Pistons suck and Warriors can be kinda good. I'm counting on Monta and Lee dominating. GS +4.5

^ What I said

[ksnooksk]

seems like everyone got pwnd on this thread

Not everyone

^ What I said