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  • sstrunks52005
    SBR Sharp
    • 07-15-11
    • 251

    #1646
    Originally posted by GREGREEK
    The second half lines show up after the first half is over. His plays are on first half lines
    it says halftime so I'd assume 2h?
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    • bmansell33
      SBR MVP
      • 09-28-11
      • 1048

      #1647
      Kob do you bet all the.over unders in your table as well?
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      • kobstopa
        SBR MVP
        • 02-21-11
        • 2965

        #1648
        Originally posted by bmansell33
        Kob do you bet all the.over unders in your table as well?
        no pick today in this area,
        damn, the heats off to a bad start. oh well,
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        • bmansell33
          SBR MVP
          • 09-28-11
          • 1048

          #1649
          Getting smoked
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          • juice050
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-19-10
            • 367

            #1650
            hey i took the heat first half and since they didnt cover i took them second half and doubled up. still thanks kop for making me even look at the heat. still banked off heat.
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            • kobstopa
              SBR MVP
              • 02-21-11
              • 2965

              #1651
              Originally posted by kobstopa
              Miami at Charlotte
              Charlotte is being realistic about this game that Winning it is out of the question, Paul Silas just want his team to keep it to low double digit lost where possible, a sound advice by a good coach.

              The ATS machine = Miami, another fast start for the Heats is coming. Corey Maggette and DeSagana Diop will make a formal team request for a stress leave immediately after this game.

              Take Miami -5.5 at half time. (.5 unit)

              LA Clippers at San Antonio
              Is GSW harder to beat on the road than the aging Spurs, dont you think ?
              Either way, it's gonna be a close game or LAC upset the spurs by a good margin.

              Take LA Clippers +4.5 (.5 unit)

              Utah at Denver
              A fast start at home, that's what the Nug can do. With a back to back game, got rape by Kobe in LA, now dealing with a high altitude of the rocky mount it will be a bit much to handle for these Jazz people. It's time for the return of Jerry Sloan.

              Take Denver -5.5 at half time. (.5 unit) score: 63-46 denver
              Take Denver -10.5 (.5 unit)100-117 den
              breakeven

              ytd: w/L record: 8-4
              +2 units
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              • juice050
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-19-10
                • 367

                #1652
                well kop u had my knicks losing.. i give you that. we need baron so bad.
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                • kobstopa
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-21-11
                  • 2965

                  #1653
                  Originally posted by juice050
                  well kop u had my knicks losing.. i give you that. we need baron so bad.
                  it's their fault, they dont have a good PG for their style of offense, now we started to see a slow defensive
                  NYK ?
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                  • kobstopa
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-21-11
                    • 2965

                    #1654
                    [ATTACH]35855[/ATTACH]
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                    • monologue
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-10-10
                      • 565

                      #1655
                      Hi kobstopa, thanks for good advice everytime. May I ask how you do the projection or the simulation? just wondering how some people manage to simulate the game. Thanks
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                      • kobstopa
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-21-11
                        • 2965

                        #1656
                        New Jersey at Orlando
                        The Nets will heavily depend on D.Will to generate offense, but they are short on talents and on the
                        road at Orlando it will be tough for them to even put 86 to 90's points on a 31% FG shooting, unless the 3's will drop by a luck factor. But this too will be tough to make as Orlando is known for a good parameter shooting team. In their last game at ATL 70-106(L), they have a significant mismatch at forward to centre, again this will continue to be the case as Johan Petro/Mehmet Okur are no match or even contain Dwight Howard.

                        Orlando at home can put up these number: avg 50% FG & 40% 3's FG which translate to around 99 to 115 points range.
                        Orlando should win by a good double digit.

                        Orlando -10.5 (1 unit)

                        Chicago at Sacramento
                        Chicago shouldn't have much trouble winning this game but it will be a tough one, which similar to their last road at the Lakers
                        game, if not even harder, especially this earlier in the season where Sacramento's roster is in full form.

                        Sacramento +8 (1 unit)
                        New York at LA Lakers
                        Take under 196.5 (1 unit)
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                        • petermans23
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 11-16-09
                          • 371

                          #1657
                          Hi kobstopa,

                          Can I ask why you think Dallas will lose by 14 points to Oaklahoma?

                          Has Dallas lost some keyplayers for this season or is several of their players injuried?

                          I am not saying you are wrong in your prediction, I was just seeing it as a gift Dallas getting +6,5 points. Also a known fact that Dallas has always been one of the best away team season after season.

                          Perhaps being the champion is a curse?

                          Looking forward hearing back from you with your knowledge and insights.
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                          • kobstopa
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-21-11
                            • 2965

                            #1658
                            Originally posted by monologue
                            Hi kobstopa, thanks for good advice everytime. May I ask how you do the projection or the simulation? just wondering how some people manage to simulate the game. Thanks
                            there're so many different ways; no absolute right or wrong way, drawn by factor from following:
                            -watch the game it self & understand playing style by teams to get a good feel knowledge about the game from a coaching stand point etc
                            -24x7 follow news coverage; teams issue such as injuries, roster changes etc, follow local news, follow twitters
                            -follow teams stat & key performance, ATS trend; teams historical ie some slow started, some teams have a history playing well against a certain teams at a certain time of the year etc.
                            -schedule, some team handle b2b games better than others
                            ...................................
                            ......................................ca n go forever
                            but you have the idea.
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                            • kobstopa
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-21-11
                              • 2965

                              #1659
                              Originally posted by petermans23
                              Hi kobstopa,

                              Can I ask why you think Dallas will lose by 14 points to Oaklahoma?

                              Has Dallas lost some keyplayers for this season or is several of their players injuried?

                              I am not saying you are wrong in your prediction, I was just seeing it as a gift Dallas getting +6,5 points. Also a known fact that Dallas has always been one of the best away team season after season.

                              Perhaps being the champion is a curse?

                              Looking forward hearing back from you with your knowledge and insights.
                              by 14 points is not an absolute thing, I have wrong before just like everyone else; I think OKC will win again home, these guys are in full form, even b2b games.

                              at the 6.5 is about 50/50 from an actuarial number & that's where the book got their prediction from.

                              Like you said, Dal is best away team - true, & peak toward end of year etc, & they have a history of slow start as well, after last year championship they're relax now, they've won one, they had reached their goal; nobody talking about a 2nd champ seriously. Jason Kidd, Dirk, Marion are just happy with their first one, even Lamar he doesn't care of winning more.

                              Other factor is the plus/minus = chandler out/ Lamar in, players are still adjust to playing with each other & changes of rotation, these thing take time. Every teams in the league is rushing through for this season with their camp. OKC have all their core players returned, only issue now is Westbrook appear to be a loose canon but they are dealing with it.
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                              • kobstopa
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-21-11
                                • 2965

                                #1660
                                Originally posted by kobstopa
                                New Jersey at Orlando
                                The Nets will heavily depend on D.Will to generate offense, but they are short on talents and on the
                                road at Orlando it will be tough for them to even put 86 to 90's points on a 31% FG shooting, unless the 3's will drop by a luck factor. But this too will be tough to make as Orlando is known for a good parameter shooting team. In their last game at ATL 70-106(L), they have a significant mismatch at forward to centre, again this will continue to be the case as Johan Petro/Mehmet Okur are no match or even contain Dwight Howard.

                                Orlando at home can put up these number: avg 50% FG & 40% 3's FG which translate to around 99 to 115 points range.
                                Orlando should win by a good double digit.

                                Orlando -10.5 (1 unit) 94-78 orl

                                Chicago at Sacramento
                                Chicago shouldn't have much trouble winning this game but it will be a tough one, which similar to their last road at the Lakers
                                game, if not even harder, especially this earlier in the season where Sacramento's roster is in full form.

                                Sacramento +8 (1 unit)
                                New York at LA Lakers
                                Take under 196.5 (1 unit) 99-82 la
                                2/3, a 1 unit gain

                                ytd: w/L record: 10-5
                                +3 units
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                                • BettingHedgehog
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 07-12-10
                                  • 667

                                  #1661
                                  congrats kobstopa,

                                  you seems to be very consistent

                                  BH
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                                  • kobstopa
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-21-11
                                    • 2965

                                    #1662
                                    Originally posted by BettingHedgehog
                                    congrats kobstopa,

                                    you seems to be very consistent

                                    BH
                                    thank you, doin my best
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                                    • kobstopa
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-21-11
                                      • 2965

                                      #1663
                                      [ATTACH]35889[/ATTACH]
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                                      • Love The Action
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-08-10
                                        • 10952

                                        #1664
                                        Originally posted by kobstopa
                                        2/3, a 1 unit gain

                                        ytd: w/L record: 10-5
                                        +3 units
                                        Keep up the great work as usual bud.

                                        Just an fyi, if you are goin to keep an accurate record of units this season, you need to include the vig. Therefore, when you win 2 out of 3 like yesterday, you dont win a full 1x, you win +0.9x. And on wednesday, when you went 2-2, you don't actually break even, you lose -0.2x z(but I think you only had a half unit on those plays so you would be at -0.1x on that day).

                                        The vig is why sports investing is so tough to beat and you have to include that in your records to be accurate. If you are not going to include the vig, you should probably just keep a win/loss record since the unit amounts are wrong.

                                        Good luck buddy. I've always considered you one of the best nba cappers, but dont forget to include the vig or you can't prove it. Keep up the great work
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                                        • true blue 26
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 12-07-11
                                          • 180

                                          #1665
                                          hornets -8??? my sportsbook has them at -2 wtf
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                                          • juice050
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 11-19-10
                                            • 367

                                            #1666
                                            Originally posted by true blue 26
                                            hornets -8??? my sportsbook has them at -2 wtf
                                            mines to thats weird
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                                            • EasyPicks
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-21-11
                                              • 3804

                                              #1667
                                              Originally posted by kobstopa
                                              2/3, a 1 unit gain

                                              ytd: w/L record: 10-5
                                              +3 units
                                              I might be wrong but I think your record is 11-6
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                                              • YouHave2outs
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-02-11
                                                • 4448

                                                #1668
                                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                The vig is why sports investing is so tough to beat and you have to include that in your records to be accurate. If you are not going to include the vig, you should probably just keep a win/loss record since the unit amounts are wrong.
                                                ^^ this. been following your thread too though, appreciate the info and picks! bol this season
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                                                • kobstopa
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-21-11
                                                  • 2965

                                                  #1669
                                                  Originally posted by true blue 26
                                                  hornets -8??? my sportsbook has them at -2 wtf
                                                  not anymore.
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                                                  • joeytunes
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-29-10
                                                    • 449

                                                    #1670
                                                    Originally posted by true blue 26
                                                    hornets -8??? my sportsbook has them at -2 wtf
                                                    bc eric gordon
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                                                    • kobstopa
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-21-11
                                                      • 2965

                                                      #1671
                                                      Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                      Keep up the great work as usual bud. Just an fyi, if you are goin to keep an accurate record of units this season, you need to include the vig. Therefore, when you win 2 out of 3 like yesterday, you dont win a full 1x, you win +0.9x. And on wednesday, when you went 2-2, you don't actually break even, you lose -0.2x z(but I think you only had a half unit on those plays so you would be at -0.1x on that day). The vig is why sports investing is so tough to beat and you have to include that in your records to be accurate. If you are not going to include the vig, you should probably just keep a win/loss record since the unit amounts are wrong. Good luck buddy. I've always considered you one of the best nba cappers, but dont forget to include the vig or you can't prove it. Keep up the great work
                                                      it's killing me to keep these as it is, i really dont care about record anyway, at the end if +100 units they can round to -10 to 20 units off, i think all the erudite followers would know that, I just want to put all my effort on the actual capping. gl
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                                                      • kobstopa
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-21-11
                                                        • 2965

                                                        #1672
                                                        Phoenix at New Orleans
                                                        This is had to be a slow started of Phoenix season ever, unlike in the past 2 years I think the camp didn't go well
                                                        with the amount of time they have to prepare, appear to struggle in getting it together, but I dont think the aging is not the issue here, one of the weakest link at this point is Channing Frye's poor shooting, scored just 5 points in last 2 games. In any-case coming to to the Hornet will be as tough challenge to beat this team eventhough they had a narrow lost at home 84-85 (L) earlier on.
                                                        New Orleans -2.5 (1 unit)

                                                        Orlando at Charlotte
                                                        Charlotte had been a giant killer at home, their have an outstanding performance against the Heats & the Bucks
                                                        but today's game is a slight different match up again, good luck in trying to contain D12; Orlando will go to the old fashion inside and out game, another solid double-double from Dwight Howard. Orlando should win between 6 to 8 points.
                                                        Orlando -4.5 (1 unit)

                                                        Detroit at Boston
                                                        This is a must win for Boston after a bad road trip 0-3, they needed this one and they aint gonna play from behind
                                                        it should be off to a fast start, take Detroit off from their shooting rhythm earlier on and wear them down in the second half. The fan will get what they want & it's all forgotten a 0-3 record.
                                                        Take Boston -6.5 at half time. (1 unit)

                                                        Toronto at Dallas
                                                        Just like Boston, another 0-3 that need to get off to a fast start at home.
                                                        Dallas -4.5 at half time. (1 unit)
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                                                        • Speedy88
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-19-11
                                                          • 11717

                                                          #1673
                                                          Tailing you on all them but the Orlando pick. No Jameer makes it a no play for me.
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                                                          • Love The Action
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-08-10
                                                            • 10952

                                                            #1674
                                                            Originally posted by kobstopa
                                                            it's killing me to keep these as it is, i really dont care about record anyway, at the end if +100 units they can round to -10 to 20 units off, i think all the erudite followers would know that, I just want to put all my effort on the actual capping. gl

                                                            LOL, I hear ya buddy....the only record that matters is your growing account

                                                            Good luck tonight
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                                                            • kobstopa
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-21-11
                                                              • 2965

                                                              #1675
                                                              Originally posted by Speedy88
                                                              Tailing you on all them but the Orlando pick. No Jameer makes it a no play for me.
                                                              i heard Jameer is pregnant, you wouldnt have anything to do wit it right? I think Orl should win by 6 but no more. Dwight will muscle his way, I think
                                                              they know how hard it is to win here, obviously they have seen the Heats and Mil's game, & will put something together
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                                                              • kobstopa
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-21-11
                                                                • 2965

                                                                #1676
                                                                Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                LOL, I hear ya buddy....the only record that matters is your growing account

                                                                Good luck tonight
                                                                right on, man
                                                                I see you are doing great, your forum is the hottest in town, right now
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                                                                • kobstopa
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-21-11
                                                                  • 2965

                                                                  #1677
                                                                  Originally posted by kobstopa
                                                                  Phoenix at New Orleans
                                                                  This is had to be a slow started of Phoenix season ever, unlike in the past 2 years I think the camp didn't go well
                                                                  with the amount of time they have to prepare, appear to struggle in getting it together, but I dont think the aging is not the issue here, one of the weakest link at this point is Channing Frye's poor shooting, scored just 5 points in last 2 games. In any-case coming to to the Hornet will be as tough challenge to beat this team eventhough they had a narrow lost at home 84-85 (L) earlier on.
                                                                  New Orleans -2.5 (1 unit)

                                                                  Orlando at Charlotte
                                                                  Charlotte had been a giant killer at home, their have an outstanding performance against the Heats & the Bucks
                                                                  but today's game is a slight different match up again, good luck in trying to contain D12; Orlando will go to the old fashion inside and out game, another solid double-double from Dwight Howard. Orlando should win between 6 to 8 points.
                                                                  Orlando -4.5 (1 unit) 100-79 orl

                                                                  Detroit at Boston
                                                                  This is a must win for Boston after a bad road trip 0-3, they needed this one and they aint gonna play from behind
                                                                  it should be off to a fast start, take Detroit off from their shooting rhythm earlier on and wear them down in the second half. The fan will get what they want & it's all forgotten a 0-3 record.
                                                                  Take Boston -6.5 at half time. (1 unit) 50-43 bos

                                                                  Toronto at Dallas
                                                                  Just like Boston, another 0-3 that need to get off to a fast start at home.
                                                                  Dallas -4.5 at half time. (1 unit) 50-46 killer Maav, 2 errors, 1. they allow that 2 points with 20 sec to the half, 2. terry need to take that 3's, idiot.
                                                                  we are free roll from here, Go New Orleans, crush them in 2nd half
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                                                                  • sstrunks52005
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-15-11
                                                                    • 251

                                                                    #1678
                                                                    doesn't look like hornets will cover. I didn't want to touch this game and does look like gordon is too big apart of the hornets offense.

                                                                    How are you doing in the nba handicapping contest? are you rank 1?
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                                                                    • kobstopa
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-21-11
                                                                      • 2965

                                                                      #1679
                                                                      Originally posted by sstrunks52005
                                                                      doesn't look like hornets will cover. I didn't want to touch this game and does look like gordon is too big apart of the hornets offense. How are you doing in the nba handicapping contest? are you rank 1?
                                                                      not anymore, another ugly day with my picks
                                                                      I am goin down.
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                                                                      • kobstopa
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-21-11
                                                                        • 2965

                                                                        #1680
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                                                                        ytd: w/L record: 12-7
                                                                        +2.5 units

                                                                        as someone suggested, I vig off .5 unit for another break even day.
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